Steampunk version:

Dark Fantasy version:

Psychic version:

Which somehow seems to have become male in the process.  :D

Hey SamTherapy that's pretty cool actually 😆👍

And here I was expecting a hostile reaction lol

Not in the least, definitely not from me.

I'm definitely loving this.  I'm finding a real gold mine of inspiration for paintings.  Can't see much utility with Poser - other than backgrounds - but as a starting point for something, this is definitely the thing I've been looking for.

Once in a while, it will come up with something really close to what you type.  For example, here's the creation from the input Tom Waits:

Not bad as a background.

Forest, rock, sunset.

Tried a silly poem:

My duck has got his brolly, It's pouring down today, With wellies and with plastic hat  He's  paddled off to play.

Now that Midjourney AI is in open beta I'm curious if anyone has constructed an image prompted by a thousand words...

...

Interesting... Comparing similar ai art apps, using the same words and styles. Should be an interesting competition or event.

I think you'd get a similar result smoking DMT.

I don't know ghostship, some of the things being produced with midjourney are pretty impressive from an illustration standpoint. Have you looked? I think it's horrifying, but impressive. Horrifying to the craft I mean. To think artists like Zdzisław Beksiński used to labor away at making similar sort of images and now people with no art skills whatsoever are producing things in that vein with word prompts.

But you don't strike me as someone who would like that kind of work anyway, just judging from your renders, so it wouldn't raise any alarms probably. Now if it starts easily producing well lit, pbr render correct images of V4 and cars and such en masse you might get a little concerned. Right now it's mostly painterly stuff. Right now.

Beksiński

...and people are selling this stuff. A client doesn't care about the means, just the product.

There are debates cropping up on YouTube around this very subject and the potential of stifling creativity and artistic skill.  Is it really your own creation when the only input you provided is just written words and expressions?  Great if you add your own touch to it afterward, but seems wrong if you take it at face value.

I don't put a signature on a wombo unless I use it as part of a picture actually created by me.

Imagine all of the skill, dexterity, and creative choices during each brush stroke that Beksiński had to bring to bear creating that surrealist Piper painting in my examples post.

Now imagine someone, a person that hasn't dedicated themselves to developing such imagination, knowledge, and dexterity, typing in this prompt

Somber Surreal futurist Apocalyptic Skeletal Piper

And producing a comparable result in a manner of minutes.

Is it progress?

Imagine all of the skill, dexterity, and creative choices during each brush stroke that Beksiński had to bring to bear creating that surrealist Piper painting in my examples post.

Now imagine someone, a person that hasn't dedicated themselves to developing such imagination, knowledge, and dexterity, typing in this prompt

Somber Surreal futurist Apocalyptic Skeletal Piper

And producing a comparable result in a manner of minutes.

Is it progress?

ThunderStone posted at 9:40 AM Tue, 23 August 2022 - #4443198

primorge posted at 8:20 AM Tue, 23 August 2022 - #4443197

Imagine all of the skill, dexterity, and creative choices during each brush stroke that Beksiński had to bring to bear creating that surrealist Piper painting in my examples post.

Now imagine someone, a person that hasn't dedicated themselves to developing such imagination, knowledge, and dexterity, typing in this prompt

Somber Surreal futurist Apocalyptic Skeletal Piper

And producing a comparable result in a manner of minutes.

Is it progress?

No, not really. It's just a lazy person's way of creating imaginative pictures, not real art. IMHO, it takes time and talent to produce real art using whatever media at hand. AI is just a starting point for creative keyboardist. I admit that picture of the piper was extremely good. I like it, but would I be able to create such an image from scratch even on the computer within either DAZ studio or Poser? Probably not. Not even in Paintshop Pro or that other company that I shall not name (PS, grumble, grumble). I had an inkling that this was coming, ever since I took Digital Media Communication course. The world is inching slowly towards complete Virtual and Augmented Reality. Interesting to read about it in a cyberpunk novel.

One of the hallmarks of Cyberpunk is that it's largely Dystopian.

ThunderStone posted at 9:40 AM Tue, 23 August 2022 - #4443198

primorge posted at 8:20 AM Tue, 23 August 2022 - #4443197

Imagine all of the skill, dexterity, and creative choices during each brush stroke that Beksiński had to bring to bear creating that surrealist Piper painting in my examples post.

Now imagine someone, a person that hasn't dedicated themselves to developing such imagination, knowledge, and dexterity, typing in this prompt

Somber Surreal futurist Apocalyptic Skeletal Piper

And producing a comparable result in a manner of minutes.

Is it progress?

No, not really. It's just a lazy person's way of creating imaginative pictures, not real art. IMHO, it takes time and talent to produce real art using whatever media at hand. AI is just a starting point for creative keyboardist. I admit that picture of the piper was extremely good. I like it, but would I be able to create such an image from scratch even on the computer within either DAZ studio or Poser? Probably not. Not even in Paintshop Pro or that other company that I shall not name (PS, grumble, grumble). I had an inkling that this was coming, ever since I took Digital Media Communication course. The world is inching slowly towards complete Virtual and Augmented Reality. Interesting to read about it in a cyberpunk novel.

Well...

One of the hallmarks of Cyberpunk is that it's largely Dystopian.

Each time a new artform comes about, those who have used other forms want to say that it isn't art. It was said about Poser. It was said about 3d art in general. It was said about digital painting. It was said about photography. I wouldn't be surprised if it was said about classic forms of art too by those who prefer other forms. It might not need the skills a Poser artist uses. But those are a different set than a photographer or a painter uses. And those are different from a dancer. I've only messed with AI art a few times, but I can say it isn't just about typing a few words. It's more like visual writing rather than painting. You can get junk. You need the right words in the right order to get something good.

Will this replace traditional or even digital art? Did photography replace painting? Subjects and styles may have changed, but painting is still out there. I don't see this replacing other forms. And with the inability to copyright the images, it probably won't grow as much as we think.

Depending on how it is presented, there might have a tremendous impact on commercialism, and how branded corporations can market the medium through visual design.  It would certainly save money to have an in-house design technician generate abstract art this way than to pay thousands, perhaps millions, of dollars to an established artist.

RedPhantom posted at 10:41 AM Tue, 23 August 2022 - #4443202

Each time a new artform comes about, those who have used other forms want to say that it isn't art. It was said about Poser. It was said about 3d art in general. It was said about digital painting. It was said about photography. I wouldn't be surprised if it was said about classic forms of art too by those who prefer other forms. It might not need the skills a Poser artist uses. But those are a different set than a photographer or a painter uses. And those are different from a dancer. I've only messed with AI art a few times, but I can say it isn't just about typing a few words. It's more like visual writing rather than painting. You can get junk. You need the right words in the right order to get something good.

Will this replace traditional or even digital art? Did photography replace painting? Subjects and styles may have changed, but painting is still out there. I don't see this replacing other forms. And with the inability to copyright the images, it probably won't grow as much as we think.

Certainly it won't replace established and traditional mediums.

It's the vagueness that's a bit troubling. And the ideas of value, tradition, skill, and authorship. Which yes has always been a debate in the what is art question. However I don't think it's of the same value as something that is the product of skill, training, dexterity, and evolved style... No matter how many words are thrown at it. Does it have it's place? Sure it already does. Is it of the same value culturally and intellectually from the human experience? 

Just my opinion.

...and I'm not so certain that midjourney images can't be copyrighted. I'll have to look into that when I get home. Probably not best to try and formulate art speak debate while at work lol.

I went by this link here when I said that about copyrighting. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/us-copyright-office-rules-ai-art-cant-be-copyrighted-180979808/ It may change.

It's vague. There's conflicting things. Apparently if you have a commercial license to midjourney the copyright is yours but not exclusively? Seems like something copyright law has yet to come to terms with.

In the meantime people probably shouldn't look at the AI art produced by the apps used in this thread but rather at the stuff midjourney can produce. There's a very big reason why some are thrilled and others not so much. There's an artist here in the Galleries that produces AI assisted art. Pretty cool work. Sci Fi Fantasy type work. The AI use is obvious and the artist is very prolific. One can only imagine the volume and quality of the work is commensurate with the reliance on AI. The words Not Humanly Possible come to mind. I'm unnerved by it, I can't help it.

Here's a good article about midjourney with a lot of fantastic images and some interesting commentary...

https://www.creativindie.com/midjourney-ai-for-book-cover-design-how-is-this-legal/

Part of the issue imho is the collaboration between human and AI.  Is it mostly AI with only a small portion of human input?   I've seen some other AI that takes your existing work and creates a new piece based on that.  I think that's a different approach which would actually be a benefit to Poser.  Imagine setting up your scene in Poser and having the AI render it for you (with variations that you can choose).  But I dunno if Poser 13 will happen as I haven't heard a peep from development.

Poser 12.0.1029 was just released yesterday.

If one day Poser could have kind of plugins as render engines, this would extend the possibilities. Two of them could be proposed by default: Firefly and Superfly.

"An AI-generated artwork’s state fair victory fuels arguments over ‘what art is’"

https://www.theverge.com/2022/9/1/23332684/ai-generated-artwork-wins-state-fair-competition-colorado

Somebody won the Colorado State Fair fine arts competition with an image created by an AI text to image generator.

randym77 posted at 11:45 AM Fri, 2 September 2022 - #4443827

"An AI-generated artwork’s state fair victory fuels arguments over ‘what art is’"

https://www.theverge.com/2022/9/1/23332684/ai-generated-artwork-wins-state-fair-competition-colorado

Somebody won the Colorado State Fair fine arts competition with an image created by an AI text to image generator.

Greqt thread, thanks to Lisa for pointing it out, awesome to see art rather than endless debates

wish I could upload some, I tried, 

ahh turning off adblock is needed

ck

correction MissB pointed it out, thanks

here is cake

"An AI-generated artwork’s state fair victory fuels arguments over ‘what art is’"

https://www.theverge.com/2022/9/1/23332684/ai-generated-artwork-wins-state-fair-competition-colorado

Somebody won the Colorado State Fair fine arts competition with an image created by an AI text to image generator.

wendyvainity posted at 1:39 PM Sat, 3 September 2022 - #4443860

correction MissB pointed it out, thanks

here is cake

Beautiful results.

But all I do  is provide a phrase and wombo does the rest.

It's not MY work.

I enjoy the results, but -

I did not create it.

So ... should I even publish it here as mine?

A_Sunbeam posted at 2:41 PM Sat, 3 September 2022 - #4443867

Beautiful results.

But all I do  is provide a phrase and wombo does the rest.

It's not MY work.

I enjoy the results, but -

I did not create it.

So ... should I even publish it here as mine?

The novelty of this will wear off. There's no process. There's no engagement along the way, decision making challenges, and compromise to bring your vision to life. Compromise is one of the hallmarks of an evolved personal style, it's the methods you arrive after finding what you can and cannot do and what works best on a personal level to serve the vision. In many ways this is meant for non artists, and has a sort of "oh neat" quality. That being said there isn't any serious commitment so there won't be a long standing engagement. Masturbatory.

Don't get me wrong, aside from the things I mentioned this will have a ton of uses... it's in it's infancy. Using it as just another tool in a more evolved process seems reasonable.Though I'm a bit disturbed by it in all reality I'm a married man looking at a man visiting a prostitute. I doubt anyone can love this, alone, from an engaging process oriented standpoint... at least not for long.

a link to my latest kitties 

https://www.facebook.com/wendy5/posts/pfbid0257dcnGN41nvPafUeaC7cdi2y3bz85RvJuBv4PRNPLhBNUeh9MLCC1qEzW7o6RJcWl

@wendyvainity - I might have to kidnap your kittens, they're too adorable

:following because relevant to my interests:

I realize this is an old post, but just wanted to point out, you can now copyright Ai art. It's absolutely exploded and there's no stopping it. The point is to work with the tech, rather than against it, because it will soon branch into animation, and will just keep getting better. Imagine having Ai that can animate your Poser and DAZ OCs without all the hassle of keyframes. 

https://www.creativebloq.com/news/ai-art-copyright

Agreed. Not to mention that judging by AI proponent's gallery work suddenly becoming a lot more "talented" in their image creation abilities there's going to be a cold wind of ego death sweeping the art world. Who needs mom's chocolate chip cookies, we got Robo 2047's cookies now.

Joe Schmoe suddenly became Boris Vallejo lol.

Agreed. Not to mention that judging by AI proponent's gallery work suddenly becoming a lot more "talented" in their image creation abilities there's going to be a cold wind of ego death sweeping the art world. Who needs mom's chocolate chip cookies, we got Robo 2047's cookies now..

Can someone move this thread to the nearest dumpster where it belongs? It has nothing to do with Poser software.

Thank you!

TwiztidKidd posted at 7:36 AM Wed, 19 October 2022 - #4446992

Can someone move this thread to the nearest dumpster where it belongs? It has nothing to do with Poser software.

Thank you!

TwiztidKidd posted at 7:36 AM Wed, 19 October 2022 - #4446992

Can someone move this thread to the nearest dumpster where it belongs? It has nothing to do with Poser software.

Thank you!

Problem....
Given the rather heavy news, especially in the world of public health, many dumpsters are full to bursting

Would rather have a separate, but equal folder for the AI created Artworks, since it's no longer a "Look and see what I can do with AI" project. This would be a great project for people who are interested in creating Poser backgrounds.

https://www.renderosity.com/forums/threads/2974217/figaments-ai-corner

thanks for pointing it out

Since I use Poser, Daz, Photoshop and now Stable Diffusion AI to get the results I want, mixed medium is probably the best place. Mixed is a good fit, imho.