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Subject: Blacksmith3d issue


Tempesta3d ( ) posted Fri, 10 October 2025 at 7:47 PM · edited Tue, 21 April 2026 at 12:43 AM

Hi, I am not sure where to write this as I cannot find the Blacksmith3d page in the forum anymore.

I am still using it as I still find it a wonderful and easy program. Today I had an issue and I am unable to make it start. The program blocks and gives me this message:

json mvaluetype==objectval required

When it opens it's not making me access the server, I am unable to put my registration number and so it's working only the demo version and not the one that I bought and I used for years with no issues. My version is the last one, the 6.3.

I know that Rendo bought Blacksmith3d and I am hoping it will solve this issue.

Any help is truly appreciated.



"You will never leave a trace where you walk, if the only path you take is the one you're told"
Woodkid, Death Stranding


GGreen ( ) posted Fri, 10 October 2025 at 11:21 PM

I own this software but have not used it in years and when I read your post, I decided to load it and... I get the same message you posted above.


Tempesta3d ( ) posted Sun, 12 October 2025 at 12:55 PM

I want to hug you! I thought it was just me and my pc acting up again :D

Thank you so soo much for your answer, I wish now someone would help us make it work again like before <3

"You will never leave a trace where you walk, if the only path you take is the one you're told"
Woodkid, Death Stranding


ColorGaleria ( ) posted Sun, 12 October 2025 at 5:36 PM

Hello, I have checked if I get the error and indeed I also receive the same bug in version 7.0.6.0


Tempesta3d ( ) posted Mon, 13 October 2025 at 6:37 AM

<3 Thank you so much for confirming this! <3 Let's hope someone helps us solve this issue soon.

"You will never leave a trace where you walk, if the only path you take is the one you're told"
Woodkid, Death Stranding


hborre ( ) posted Mon, 13 October 2025 at 6:46 AM

This from Willyb53:

https://www.renderosity.com/forums/threads/2996190/warning-blacksmith-3d-users


tim ( ) posted Mon, 13 October 2025 at 9:36 AM
Site Admin

Bondware owns the source code for Blacksmith3D, but it is no longer a published software title.
We are working through the process of open-sourcing the code for the benefit of the community.
This will allow interested developers to fork the code to modernize or enhance it.


Tempesta3d ( ) posted Mon, 13 October 2025 at 6:45 PM

Thank you, that would be great, but then what about users now that wish to keep using it? Is there any way to have it working again? It is a very necessary program for texturing.

So the issue started after an update with Windows, if I understand correctly?

"You will never leave a trace where you walk, if the only path you take is the one you're told"
Woodkid, Death Stranding


willyb53 ( ) posted Mon, 13 October 2025 at 7:13 PM

It seems to be when the program access the appdata.  if you remove or rename the folder there, 6 will come up in demo mode but run so itthat info may help in the debugging


Biill


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willyb53 ( ) posted Mon, 13 October 2025 at 7:30 PM
tim posted at 9:36 AM Mon, 13 October 2025 - #4500594

Bondware owns the source code for Blacksmith3D, but it is no longer a published software title.
We are working through the process of open-sourcing the code for the benefit of the community.
This will allow interested developers to fork the code to modernize or enhance it.


Not sure what it sets for security without the code, but if it just sets a flag and you are thinking of open source, just set  what ever i sneeded for it towork.

I retired from programming 20 years ago so not sure what it looks like inside tthe code


Bill


People that know everything by definition can not learn anything


Tempesta3d ( ) posted Tue, 14 October 2025 at 1:26 PM

I fear I am not too good at teach stuff, you think there is a way to have it work again? It doesn't let me put my serial number, I only get that error and cannot access the program anymore.

I thank you a lot for your help.

"You will never leave a trace where you walk, if the only path you take is the one you're told"
Woodkid, Death Stranding


willyb53 ( ) posted Tue, 14 October 2025 at 2:41 PM

AT this point, there seems to be nothing we can do.

I tried rolling back to previous and it did not work

The only choices are microsoft updates (unupdates) or Rendo can fix it

If it is because it happens in apdat folder, maybe move the securiy info to another location not protected bu microsoft security or

disable the security check.

for info (if yuo still have them, blacksmith 3,5 and 4 still ork, I no longer have version 5 so can not comment on it

Billk


People that know everything by definition can not learn anything


Tempesta3d ( ) posted Wed, 15 October 2025 at 8:47 AM

You were so amazing with all the explanations, thank you so much! I have tried too to roll back the update of Windows with no luck.

I really hope to find some previous versions then, too bad as this was a very essential program and I wish Rendo will give us the assistance to make it work again.



"You will never leave a trace where you walk, if the only path you take is the one you're told"
Woodkid, Death Stranding


willyb53 ( ) posted Wed, 15 October 2025 at 10:56 AM

I am dead in the water on some projects without blacksmith

I use it for all morphs for one reason, it allows temporary welds, which alows morphing and smothing accross seams.  the poser smothing brush can cause seperatiosn if used accross a seam.

I will be submitting the v4 to LF1 shoe fitter today, but will not be able to do any more until I have blacksmith

Bill


People that know everything by definition can not learn anything


Tempesta3d ( ) posted Wed, 15 October 2025 at 1:31 PM

Dear Bill, same as you unfortunately, I need it badly for texturing, it is a life saving program for seams and all that. It seems we are in desperate need for help, I hope Renderosity will fix it.

"You will never leave a trace where you walk, if the only path you take is the one you're told"
Woodkid, Death Stranding


tim ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2025 at 10:28 AM
Site Admin

Are you guys on Win or Mac?


willyb53 ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2025 at 12:39 PM

Windows, apparentlycaused by security update


Bill


People that know everything by definition can not learn anything


GGreen ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2025 at 12:39 PM

I am on Window 10, thinking about moving on to Windows 11, just have not decided yet.


RedPhantom ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2025 at 3:25 PM
Site Admin

looks like the same issue is happening to texture transformer too


Available on Amazon for the Kindle E-Reader Monster of the North and The Shimmering Mage

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Check out my store here or my free stuff here
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tim ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2025 at 3:38 PM · edited Thu, 16 October 2025 at 3:39 PM
Site Admin

Assuming you purchased "Blacksmith3D Pro Version 7" for Windows, find it in your purchases and download the main ZIP file for Windows again.  Expand it over your current installation or copy the Blacksmith3D.exe file into your Blacksmith3D install folder.  This should address the reported issue.

If not, let us know.


hborre ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2025 at 3:38 PM

Texture Transformer V1.1.2.0 accepts a reentry of the registration license number, but Version 2.0.6.0 refuses to register.  I am not convinced that the Windows update has actually broken all of Blacksmith3d's software.  Did he pull the plug on all his products?


bwldrd ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2025 at 5:48 PM
tim posted at 3:38 PM Thu, 16 October 2025 - #4500690

Assuming you purchased "Blacksmith3D Pro Version 7" for Windows, find it in your purchases and download the main ZIP file for Windows again.  Expand it over your current installation or copy the Blacksmith3D.exe file into your Blacksmith3D install folder.  This should address the reported issue.

If not, let us know.

Does not fix anything,  V7060  Still same error.

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bwldrd ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2025 at 6:04 PM · edited Thu, 16 October 2025 at 6:05 PM

Should note I had the subscription version which I kept till it was no longer supported.   But the serial I have still worked.  Till this error of course.

The windows version download is the same file it has always been, nothing changed.  So still has the error.

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Tempesta3d ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2025 at 6:35 PM

Same as GGreen, I am on Window 10, thinking about moving on to Windows 11. Same issues as the others report.

"You will never leave a trace where you walk, if the only path you take is the one you're told"
Woodkid, Death Stranding


willyb53 ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2025 at 7:14 PM

tim posted at 3:38 PM Thu, 16 October 2025 - #4500690

Assuming you purchased "Blacksmith3D Pro Version 7" for Windows, find it in your purchases and download the main ZIP file for Windows again.  Expand it over your current installation or copy the Blacksmith3D.exe file into your Blacksmith3D install folder.  This should address the reported issue.

If not, let us know.

That did it for BS7, but TT2 (which is part of &) does not load

AS for BS7 Loaded lh1 painted across his torso and saved, looks ok


Billk


People that know everything by definition can not learn anything


willyb53 ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2025 at 7:24 PM

Further information, it comes up as standard version not pro

At least I can function as slng as I dont need pro features which is an improvment


Bill


People that know everything by definition can not learn anything


willyb53 ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2025 at 8:05 PM

It looks like there was a PRO flag that was set in th e appdata folder as well

so for right now, no .abr files (I can work around) and no large textures no problem, and may be some other things  i missed


Bill


People that know everything by definition can not learn anything


ChangelingChick ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2025 at 9:51 PM

Fyi, that redownload set off several virus warnings with severe threats. Also, didn't fix it.


ChangelingChick ( ) posted Thu, 16 October 2025 at 9:57 PM

More Info-- Mac users it still works. 
Win 10 PC Not connected to the internet-- launches but opens in demo mode since it can't connect.


tim ( ) posted Fri, 17 October 2025 at 8:28 AM
Site Admin

Uploaded new patch for "Blacksmith3D Pro Version 7" for Windows main app zip file, find it in your purchases and download the main ZIP file for Windows again.  Expand it over your current installation or copy the Blacksmith3D.exe file into your Blacksmith3D install folder.

This should be Pro version & include TextureTransformer.

If not, let us know.

Considering bundling this with with Poser 14 under Poser license managment to simplify things going forward.  Thoughts?


hborre ( ) posted Fri, 17 October 2025 at 9:51 AM

It would make sense to bundle it with Poser 14, since Bondware is considering making it open source.


willyb53 ( ) posted Fri, 17 October 2025 at 10:07 AM

Downloaded, tested.  TT2 now working, says Pro

Still can not import .abr brushes, but I know how to convert those anyway so I seem to be runctional, time to start cleanup o next freebie :D


Bill


People that know everything by definition can not learn anything


Tempesta3d ( ) posted Fri, 17 October 2025 at 10:26 AM

Great to know about the 7, but I have this version:

Blacksmith3D Pro-6 Upgrade from Pro-5

Version 6.3 to be precise. What about this? Is there a way for me to get the version 7?

"You will never leave a trace where you walk, if the only path you take is the one you're told"
Woodkid, Death Stranding


RedPhantom ( ) posted Fri, 17 October 2025 at 10:26 AM
Site Admin

Still getting an error with the stand alone Texture transformer


Available on Amazon for the Kindle E-Reader Monster of the North and The Shimmering Mage

Today I break my own personal record for the number of days for being alive.
Check out my store here or my free stuff here
I use Poser 13 and win 10


willyb53 ( ) posted Fri, 17 October 2025 at 11:03 AM

Further testing results:

as mentioned it no longer recognizes .abr extension

drag and drop for the brush tip no longer works


the drag and drop is inconvienient but I can load by navigating to my brush folder

Nothing else came up in the paint module

Bill


People that know everything by definition can not learn anything


Phoenix1966 ( ) posted Fri, 17 October 2025 at 11:33 AM

Please consider sending out a sitemail to owners that this has been updated. If someone else hadn't pointed me to this thread, I'd still be pulling out my hair and searching the couch cushions for spare change to try and buy Substance Painter.


Phoenix1966 ( ) posted Fri, 17 October 2025 at 11:38 AM · edited Fri, 17 October 2025 at 11:47 AM
hborre posted at 3:38 PM Thu, 16 October 2025 - #4500691

Texture Transformer V1.1.2.0 accepts a reentry of the registration license number, but Version 2.0.6.0 refuses to register.  I am not convinced that the Windows update has actually broken all of Blacksmith3d's software.  Did he pull the plug on all his products?

Blacksmith had a "phone home feature". I believe the server it tried to reach is no longer available. When my main computer started throwing this error a few days ago(on Windows 10 with no recent updates), I broke out my old laptop that hadn't been used in 2 years. When I tried to open Blacksmith, I got the message that it needed to periodically check in with a server and I should close the app, connect to the internet and then reopen". I did then connect to the internet and as soon as I opened Blacksmith, I got that error we've all been seeing on a very old version of Windows 10 with no updates..


Tempesta3d ( ) posted Fri, 17 October 2025 at 1:50 PM

I suspect this too Phoenix1966, I believe the server it tried to reach is no longer available.

"You will never leave a trace where you walk, if the only path you take is the one you're told"
Woodkid, Death Stranding


hborre ( ) posted Fri, 17 October 2025 at 2:14 PM

To add further information, I am running Windows 11.


hborre ( ) posted Fri, 17 October 2025 at 8:36 PM
Phoenix1966 posted at 11:38 AM Fri, 17 October 2025 - #4500727
hborre posted at 3:38 PM Thu, 16 October 2025 - #4500691

Texture Transformer V1.1.2.0 accepts a reentry of the registration license number, but Version 2.0.6.0 refuses to register.  I am not convinced that the Windows update has actually broken all of Blacksmith3d's software.  Did he pull the plug on all his products?

Blacksmith had a "phone home feature". I believe the server it tried to reach is no longer available. When my main computer started throwing this error a few days ago(on Windows 10 with no recent updates), I broke out my old laptop that hadn't been used in 2 years. When I tried to open Blacksmith, I got the message that it needed to periodically check in with a server and I should close the app, connect to the internet and then reopen". I did then connect to the internet and as soon as I opened Blacksmith, I got that error we've all been seeing on a very old version of Windows 10 with no updates..
That is the problem with the phone home feature: you pay good money for reliable software, and its accessibility is yanked from you when either the server is taken offline or the author decides to call it quits.  It's unfair to the user.


marciushess ( ) posted Fri, 17 October 2025 at 10:34 PM

I don't understand why, if it's a discontinued program, the developers don't remove the need to call a specific number, so that those who already own the program can use it without these setbacks.



ChangelingChick ( ) posted Sat, 18 October 2025 at 1:40 AM

Re-Downloaded the files for 7, but within the zip they haven't been updated since 2017, so I'm guessing the upgrade for 7 hasn't been updated?


Tempesta3d ( ) posted Sat, 18 October 2025 at 6:07 AM

I still have version 6.3 and, even if I wanted, I cannot buy the version 7, as nothing about Blacksmith3d is available anymore. 

I agree totally with Hborre, same issue with digital entertainments like videogames, the server goes POOF and we, the customers, are left with nothing at all. We pay for the use of something for as long as they let us use it, it seems.

Great idea Marciushess, why don't they simply remove the need to access a dead server? I think would be the easiest solution.

Also, thank you ChangelingChick, is there a way to get the version 7 somehow?

"You will never leave a trace where you walk, if the only path you take is the one you're told"
Woodkid, Death Stranding


willyb53 ( ) posted Sat, 18 October 2025 at 12:25 PM

ChangelingChick posted at 1:40 AM Sat, 18 October 2025 - #4500741

Re-Downloaded the files for 7, but within the zip they haven't been updated since 2017, so I'm guessing the upgrade for 7 hasn't been updated?


Interesting, when I downloaded and unzipped, the BS7 exe was dated Oct 17 2025

Bill


People that know everything by definition can not learn anything


Richard60 ( ) posted Sat, 18 October 2025 at 10:13 PM

Looks like they may have only updated the Pro version of Blacksmith 7.0.6 as my standard version is still stuck at 23 June 2017 with a new download 5 minutes ago.


Poser 5, 6, 7, 8, Poser Pro 9 (2012), 10 (2014), 11, 12, 13, 14


willyb53 ( ) posted Sun, 19 October 2025 at 12:23 AM

Aj!  They should be able to do that easily.  The firs tattempt dropped me into standard

Actullythey probablyshould put that version out for v6 and v7 standard versions

Bill


People that know everything by definition can not learn anything


Rhia474 ( ) posted Sun, 19 October 2025 at 5:50 PM

New version of BlacksmithPro (the updated version Tim mentions above) sets off several virus scans and block tutorials from viewing. Texture Transformer still refuses to open (virus scan refuses to allow exe to open). I imagine this is rather troublesome for texturing artists.




marciushess ( ) posted Sun, 19 October 2025 at 11:57 PM

I just received this answer from Costumer's Support:

Thank you for reaching out. Unfortunately, Renderosity no longer supports or provides updates for BlackSmith 3D, as the software has been discontinued.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. While we’re unable to offer technical assistance for this product, you may still be able to find community discussions or troubleshooting tips in our Renderosity Forums, where other users have shared solutions for older software.

Thank you for your understanding, and we appreciate your continued support of Renderosity.

I really can't understand the company's stance. We all bought the product, which isn't cheap, and we use it at work. Now they're just saying they're sorry, but we'll have to figure it out. And they could have simply removed the need for the software to be activated by calling a phone number.




Tempesta3d ( ) posted Mon, 20 October 2025 at 5:51 AM

This of Marciushess: 

I really can't understand the company's stance. We all bought the product, which isn't cheap, and we use it at work. Now they're just saying they're sorry, but we'll have to figure it out. And they could have simply removed the need for the software to be activated by calling a phone number.

What about all of us who bought it and need it for our work? 

"You will never leave a trace where you walk, if the only path you take is the one you're told"
Woodkid, Death Stranding


mousso ( ) posted Mon, 20 October 2025 at 6:20 AM

I got the exact same answer as marciushess. 


willyb53 ( ) posted Mon, 20 October 2025 at 8:29 AM

To be fair, they are trying to fix it.

the 208599 is mostly functional.  the security alerts some are getting  I do not understand., byt I am on win7 using MS security essentials and received no warnings


bll


People that know everything by definition can not learn anything


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