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Subject: In my grubby big hands


booksbydavid ( ) posted Sun, 13 April 2014 at 11:44 AM

Cool.

No seatbelts. Danny and Carol are risk takers. Exciting! :)

Before I say anything more, do you want criticism or not? Don't want to offer if it isn't wanted.


manleystanley ( ) posted Sun, 13 April 2014 at 12:14 PM ยท edited Sun, 13 April 2014 at 12:16 PM

What to do while waiting on a hirez render in carrara?

Convert hair with Studio lol I'm also trying that conversion method on a few smart props. Works well for M3 hats lol

Doubt you'll point out what I haven't seen, but go for it


booksbydavid ( ) posted Sun, 13 April 2014 at 12:28 PM

Heh, heh.

Well, looking at all the images so far, the main impression I get is that this is all happening on a cloudy, dreary day. Since they're going on a picnic, I'm assuming that it is not a dreary day. My suggestion would be to add a sunlight to the lighting setup. Place it wherever the HDRI has the sun coming from and adjust. I can see the highlights, but there ought to be more on a sunny day.

Of course, I'm only assuming this is a sunny day. :)

I find I often have to add a sunlight, or some other light to 'help out' the HDRI. I've tried cranking up the HDR intensity, but that never gives me the results I'm looking for.

That's all. Your scenes are always much larger than I usually ever attempt. I usually try to watch when you start one, because there's always something new to learn.


manleystanley ( ) posted Sun, 13 April 2014 at 1:18 PM

I see Poserdom as a meeting place. There are people that started with Poser/Studio and are used to working close scenes. And there are people that started at some different point in CG. I actually started with game modding. The first CG app I ever bought was Terragen. So I am used to working in the big out doors. I only bought TG to begin with to make Hirez skydomes for the racing game I was modding lol

But ya, that car scene is done with stage lights not day light. It's not done yet though. I want to add some people on the side walk, work on those store fronts. I'm also looking for a better car. It needs to be a convertable, but more of an everyday car. For some reason all I have are sports cars and muscle cars lol My options right now are the S2000 there, a BMW, or a miata that needs to be completely retextured. Right now that miata loks like a kids toy because it is all base colors; I can't read french so I had to find out what shader was what part

{it's embarising because I took french in school but was studying the teacher more then the languge} ooh lala


booksbydavid ( ) posted Sun, 13 April 2014 at 4:25 PM


I took Spanish. My teacher was scary looking (I had nothing to concentrate on but the language), and I still don't know Spanish.

I guess I'm one of those small scene folks, although I can go global when the need arises.

Interested in seeing how this one turns out. Good luck on the car search.


manleystanley ( ) posted Sun, 13 April 2014 at 7:48 PM ยท edited Sun, 13 April 2014 at 7:50 PM

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Latest fun, and yet more use for Studio. The above is.... V4 Poser dynaimc clothing.

No it's not dynaimic now; well not in Studio  But this was done the same way as the hair; same old issues. Long dresses; beyond knee length, don't convert well.  So far so good though. One good thing, poser dyncmic clothes are usually simple and low poly so drape well in carrara.


manleystanley ( ) posted Mon, 14 April 2014 at 9:03 AM

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Here's the rework of the car scene. I found a mini convertable which looks and works better in the scene; DMI cars. Added some peopl on the side walk, dropped the stage lighting and added a distent light, tweaked some shaders. Next one should be at the park getting the picnic basket out of the car. 


booksbydavid ( ) posted Mon, 14 April 2014 at 10:54 AM

Oooo! Better. I think I like that car better, too. Good color. I really like the reflections on the car. Very nice. Oh, and the people in the background really add life to the scene.


manleystanley ( ) posted Mon, 14 April 2014 at 7:41 PM

If you want to try the Poser dynaimc conversion with studio, Planit3d has a big selection of free V3 clothes; yes you will need the mil3 iconic shapes for genesis.

I've been trying to rebuild my Poser dynamic clothes library, I deleted it all a while back

In my opinion the best bang for the buck when it comes to figures is the head/body morphs, and for genesis/G2F/M the iconic shapes.

I've hit a few V4 dynamic dresses that totally lock up Studio in the process. It's a fairly fast process most of the time. I've got it down to about 3 minute load to finished save. How well this works on props seems to be random, I'm sure it's something obvious I'm over looking.

Thanks booksbydavid, I think I'm up to 3 hours on that. But the "scene" and the "extras" are presets. I have a carrara folder that is all preset scenes, like stonemasons or Jack's sets, with textures and lighting set up. Most of my time on that scene was staging, getting all the characters in place. Even retexturing the car; including fixing the windshield so the glass shader worked right, only took about half an hour.

For me opening a new "set" in carrara is like opening an Xmas present. Some times it's good, some times not, but certain relatives I can count on lol


manleystanley ( ) posted Tue, 15 April 2014 at 10:17 AM ยท edited Tue, 15 April 2014 at 10:17 AM

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Here ya go. V3 poser dynamic Vampdress, converted in Studio, drapped in carrara on Genesis.

Yes there is still some poly stretching but stick to solid colors and it should work fine.


booksbydavid ( ) posted Tue, 15 April 2014 at 10:19 AM

I haven't been to Planit3d in ages. I forgot about it. Thanks for the reminder.

Oh, and you're welcomd and Merry Christmas. :)


manleystanley ( ) posted Wed, 16 April 2014 at 12:10 PM ยท edited Wed, 16 April 2014 at 12:11 PM

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As I said a while back I got the moonshine drive in and was turning it in to a big drive in, but is lacked a projection/snack building. I've hunted around but couldn't find anything the was right, so I bashed the ticket booth in Hex.

Cut it apart by it's shader zones, stretch the building and roof, moved lights to fill spaces and clear the back side. Add a projection window, duplicated and moved an interior wall, and duplicated the back door and moved it to the new interior wall.

All the shaders dropped right on the new model, but I had to go in to the modeling room, select uvmapping, and uncheck wrap u values.


booksbydavid ( ) posted Wed, 16 April 2014 at 12:21 PM

Hey, not bad!

The drive-in I went to back in the day also had a huge snack bar attached to the projection room. It also had a playground area right beside it. I remember as a kid being bored with the movie and going back to the play area to play while mom and dad watched the movie. It's a weird feeling to be playing in the dark while there's a giant movie screen flashing and bizarre echoing sound coming from all the speakers attached to all the cars.

Now that was an experience.


manleystanley ( ) posted Wed, 16 April 2014 at 2:06 PM

We're dateing our selves. The playground will be at the base of the screen in front of the parking area; like the one that used to be here Even got the old style heavy iron playground equipment.

Is it just me or does it seem that in general, life for kids was a lot more hazardes 50 years ago then it is now?


booksbydavid ( ) posted Wed, 16 April 2014 at 4:18 PM

I don't know if it was more hazardous, but it sure was a lot more fun. I remember glorious days riding around my hometown with my friends on our bikes. We'd stay gone all day and probably travel 20 miles round trip and no one worried about us. I'd walk two miles to the 'local' mom and pop shop for drinks, candy and the odd toy paid for by the deposits I got from collecting bottles on the walk to the store. It was great walking to the store with not money and leaving with a cold drink and some sweet candy.

Those were the days, my friend. :)

And I do miss the drive-in. My kids don't know what they're missing.


manleystanley ( ) posted Wed, 16 April 2014 at 6:26 PM

Yes, but that was back when your antena only picked up 5 or 6 stations, and at least one was PBS; public broadcasting. lol And your dad had a TV you were allowed to watch some times lol

Hey, PBS was great, introed me to Monty, as well as a bunch of other britcoms.

But ya, we remember when we got mad because we had to stay in all day when the weather was bad Two of my brothers kids have to take viatem D, you know, the one you get from sunshine.

I've read that rickets is coming back, an issue caused by lack of sunlight. It was practically wiped out when they made child labor laws.  Thank you internet. Well more like parents that don't set restictions and rules.

I had something going here still I posed my big burly thug and he turned in to a super model. I hate when poses carry morphs. Back to square one.


tsarist ( ) posted Wed, 16 April 2014 at 8:35 PM

Quote - We're dateing our selves. The playground will be at the base of the screen in front of the parking area; like the one that used to be here Even got the old style heavy iron playground equipment. Is it just me or does it seem that in general, life for kids was a lot more hazardes 50 years ago then it is now?

Looks good Stan

I have only been to a Drive-In twice (I didn't grow up in the US), but when I went it was so much fun. Better variety of snacks than at the cineplex.

And yes, life was quite a bit more hazardous years ago. I remember doing all sorts of things that would be frowned upon today.


manleystanley ( ) posted Wed, 16 April 2014 at 10:14 PM

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Oh ya. When I was a kid they put in this big concrete culvert, we'd dare each other to see who could ride the furthest on its edge; Bycicals. 4' drop on the inside; 1.2m. I saw more then one kid get pulled out in an ambulance, didn't stop any of us from trying it though. I was grown up before they finally fenced it in.

Years later I realized what made kids fall was fear. I never fell, but did get flustered a few times and stopped. It was an 10" wide ledge; .25m. All you had to do was ride straight. Still, the sort of test that builds character and self confidence that kids seem to be protected from today.

Here he is. Not sure what borked the last time, wasn't actually the pose, so

"Babes, bullet, bombs... DAMN, I love this job". Duke Nukem.

Genesis in M4's uzilite HD suit. S3's flat top; for some reason M3's wouldn't convert to well. Still trying to get eh rest of the Duke Nukem look together. I'll use Hiro's urben trcking suspenders for the suspender/bandoleres, and I know I have a set of pilots glasses some place


manleystanley ( ) posted Thu, 17 April 2014 at 12:40 AM

Why do none of these cafe's have kitchens? Looks like I will need to make a grill and fryer. Not like they would be complex models lol But I am getting the moonshine interior parts 2; has some stuff I need for the snackshack. I've got the moonshine diner on my wish list but I need some of it's parts now lol

Now I am A Jack Tomalin fan. I know his content is going to be good, and I like his style. But what to do with West Park Ablutions?

What can I say, I have all the dream home rooms, grounds, and such; not the furniture, and have never done anything with it till recently. I started building this pool party scene; still working on it, still not happy with the pool water. Still need that one more set of pool poses. Half my wish list is $1.99 items lol


booksbydavid ( ) posted Thu, 17 April 2014 at 11:49 AM

Quote - And yes, life was quite a bit more hazardous years ago. I remember doing all sorts of things that would be frowned upon today.

Grownups always frown on things that are the most fun. :)

I remember my local public park. It was full of gasp metal! Everything. There was a slide, I remember it well. It was metal, hot as anything in the summer, ten feet tall and fast as lightning. That was an awesome slide.

@Stan- Duke Nukem. I haven't thought about him in ages. I need to get that game for my son. He'd love it.


manleystanley ( ) posted Sat, 19 April 2014 at 5:04 PM ยท edited Sat, 19 April 2014 at 5:06 PM

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There has got to be some easy way to snape these parts togehter. I'm up to build B2 of this park. I spent 3 hours yeaterday lining up seams. ![](http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/art/emoticons/glare.gif)

I have a few more tweaks to make, only one nice oak in right now. I want to add a parking lot to the loop end, track down some blank sign models for oneway and do not enter; I have them... someplace I need to replace that one straight with a path off set, then I can paint the pathes on to the terrain and level it here and there for benches, tables and such.

I think I will make the park a bit of a valley and mirror my terrain on the oposet side. The put in a bunch of benches, maybe a band stand, defenetly a nice fountain; got it, and chess tables. I'll just do up a texture on a stone table.

We'll see where it takes me


booksbydavid ( ) posted Sat, 19 April 2014 at 7:48 PM

And we're all invited to the grand opening, right?

Man, this is going to be a big job.


manleystanley ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2014 at 1:17 PM

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Oh it's fun stuff when I am in the right frame of mind. I can set there for hours building this stuff, like model planes, or cars. Turn on some tunes and get to it. Other wise I just can't keep my head on it for more the 10-15 minutes.


booksbydavid ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2014 at 1:30 PM

Well, it's going to look good when you're done.


tsarist ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2014 at 2:48 PM

Yeah, I agree with Books, it's going to look nice when you finish.

FYI, in case you forgot, you can pick up a lot of freebies here at Rendo to flesh out your scenes.

I forget that fact sometimes.

There are also some really nice freebies over at RDNA.


manleystanley ( ) posted Sun, 20 April 2014 at 4:22 PM

Oh ya, don't forget sharecg. I have plenty of stuff. Too much lol

Like that flat I set up is for a building, it's not a problem of finding one to go there, but which one More over, carrara not being limited by format, I have a huge selection of buildings I can download.


manleystanley ( ) posted Mon, 21 April 2014 at 9:16 AM

Well here we go, running in to issues. Now everything I dorp in that scene is stuck on the X axis, I can move them along the Y and Z, but not the X.


booksbydavid ( ) posted Mon, 21 April 2014 at 10:14 AM

OK, that's bizarre. Never had that happen.


manleystanley ( ) posted Mon, 21 April 2014 at 2:27 PM

There are actually a lot of parts to the scene, it takes 5.7 of my 8 gig when open. But it's not like me running in to bizzare bugs is anything new


tsarist ( ) posted Mon, 21 April 2014 at 7:25 PM

Quote - Well here we go, running in to issues. Now everything I dorp in that scene is stuck on the X axis, I can move them along the Y and Z, but not the X.

 

I have had this happen sometimes.

If you go into (I'm doing this from memory) the section where you can change scale, and orientation, make sure you unlock everything. 

You might need to go to "Custom" and unlock it manually.

I will find out the exact names of what I'm talking about and post it tomorrow if you don't know what I'm talking about.


tsarist ( ) posted Thu, 24 April 2014 at 8:08 PM

Stan

Did my answer help you or anyone or do you need more details?


manleystanley ( ) posted Fri, 25 April 2014 at 8:49 AM ยท edited Fri, 25 April 2014 at 8:51 AM

Sorry. Had to step back from it for a bit. Been playing a game for a few days. But I figured out for some reason constraints were locked on new pieces to the scene. As in they come in with "full" constraint and I have to reset them to none to move them around. But your suggestion got me looking in the right spot to fix it.

Thanks.


manleystanley ( ) posted Wed, 30 April 2014 at 10:08 AM

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Well here you go, a good example of why I am using Studio to convert Poser dynaimc cloths to use in carrara.


booksbydavid ( ) posted Wed, 30 April 2014 at 10:47 AM

Very nice!


manleystanley ( ) posted Sun, 04 May 2014 at 7:34 AM ยท edited Sun, 04 May 2014 at 7:37 AM

Yesterday I got dimensional theory's yosemite HDRI sets 1 and 2. Glad I hadden't counted on using any of the carrara files. None will load to carrara; C8.5. Carrara gives me a file format error for the back ground and the lights will open a new scene, which is actually a problem. I can't bring them in to an exciting scene, everytime I try carrara just opens another scene for the lights.

Now am I going to jump, gripe, complain? No. You know how much HDRIs cost? These 2 packs gave me 12 Hirez nature HDRIs as well as the spherical maps that I can take in to Genetica and manipulate the lighting for different HDRIs; sunset, moonlite, fog, forsets fire. All that for $4, I ain't complaining :D

Still wish I could get my carrara folders together, seems I have mine, DAZ's, 1 in C8.1 and 1 in C8.5. I need to cut Daz's and drop it in mine, then go to the 2 in carrara ones and clear out everything but the scene wizard stuff.

Of coarse I've been saying for a year I need to clear out my Poses runtime and get all those mil1 and 2 poses out of it. lol


manleystanley ( ) posted Thu, 08 May 2014 at 2:37 PM

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What I got with the credit for the aniblock yoga set.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuK6n2Lkza0


booksbydavid ( ) posted Thu, 08 May 2014 at 4:54 PM

Cool video.

Nice diner, too. I remember going to the local drive-in diner when I was a kid. It was called 'Arnold's'. Just like in Happy Days. No kidding.


manleystanley ( ) posted Thu, 08 May 2014 at 8:50 PM ยท edited Thu, 08 May 2014 at 8:52 PM

New song with that bebop sound. Seemed to fit the theam. Jack has given me a lot to work with, I mean I have plenty for some mad scientist zombie out break. Or any 50's, 60's flash back lol

I was working on one a while back, good idea for a graphic novel, but me being me I got so obsesed with finding the right furniture from the scene in my head, for the hospital waiting room, that it got parked. The reason I like Jack's stuff is I can count on it, I get how he builds, and as evidenced by much he creates, we think alike lol

Seriously, what name would be better for some one doing macabra the Jack?

Goth isn't makeup you put on, or clothes you ware, it lives, or dies in your heart. It's not frearing the dark, or anything that moves in it. It's reveling in the fact light would be meaningless with out darkness.  Dark is not evil, it's just the absence of light. Goth is being excited about the prospect of haughted houses and walks through grave yards. It's not black clothes and guyliner. {although I love deep, dark reds, and could use some "just for men"}.

Yes, I was the kid that had the latest issues of eerie and creepy back in the day


booksbydavid ( ) posted Fri, 09 May 2014 at 10:57 AM

I've still got a stack of Eerie and Creepy. Ah, the good old days. :) That stuff would send chills down my spine every time.


tsarist ( ) posted Fri, 09 May 2014 at 8:12 PM

Quote - I've still got a stack of Eerie and Creepy. Ah, the good old days. :) That stuff would send chills down my spine every time.

Yes!

Eerie and Creepy are the best. Great stories and aweesome art.


booksbydavid ( ) posted Fri, 09 May 2014 at 9:39 PM

Quote - > Quote - I've still got a stack of Eerie and Creepy. Ah, the good old days. :) That stuff would send chills down my spine every time.

Yes!

Eerie and Creepy are the best. Great stories and aweesome art.

:)

And Vampirella.

One of the first pictures I ever drew that was anything close to being good was of Vampirella. She was awesome!


manleystanley ( ) posted Sat, 10 May 2014 at 7:27 AM

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What I have stacks of, subscribed to for a few years, and are still in preistean condidtion is Heavy metal. ![](http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/art/emoticons/thumbup.gif)

It covered it all and had some of the best art work of the time. But then it had some of the most drug induced story lines I've ever read lol

Once I get all these blasted lights set on the Moonshine diner I might put them up as a freebie on the carraracafe.

And here is another goody I stumbled over lastnight while working on this. I was haveing issues with the waitress dres not posing well with genesis. Typical bell dress with no movement. So in Studio I loaded G1, loaded the dress, selected the dress and opened the active pain menu; screen cap provided, selected assists, transfer utility, selected source:scene item: genesis, shape default. Selected target:scene item: the skirt, shape default. selected projection template skirt, then clicked accept.


manleystanley ( ) posted Sun, 11 May 2014 at 10:01 AM

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Yup, still working on it. I made a "tree line" for the moonshine diner render and decided to add it to my "parts" folder. It actually works well enough I need to spend some time doing some tree shader justise to it lol


booksbydavid ( ) posted Sun, 11 May 2014 at 1:36 PM

Looking good. Keep at it. :)


manleystanley ( ) posted Mon, 12 May 2014 at 8:09 AM

Well this is turning in to every big scene I work on. It's gotten too big to be easily worked. Even grouping and makeing the groups invisable isn't working. The scene is using 6 of my 8 gig when open and I may have to scale it down considerable to finish what I was up to to begin with.

I've said I have the skill to do Howiesc like scenes, but like Howies scenes they get to the point my comp just wont push them. I could double the ram for $160; but I can't afford the $30 graphics card I need 

I still want the same features in the scene, but I'm going to have to scale it to 1/8 or so.


manleystanley ( ) posted Mon, 12 May 2014 at 10:59 AM ยท edited Mon, 12 May 2014 at 11:02 AM

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That is what it is up to. Just getting to hard to work. I'm just going to have to park it, and start from a different prospective. I usually end up making my scenes too big. I need to learn to work in the camera frame.


booksbydavid ( ) posted Mon, 12 May 2014 at 11:24 AM

You try using Dimension Theory's Ecomantics Effecient Ecosystems to replace the tree lines you have there. They are planes with tree/forest images. They look pretty good, especially if you layer them in offset. Might help with resources.

 


manleystanley ( ) posted Mon, 12 May 2014 at 1:40 PM

I think this is an issue with C8.5. Used to be when a scene started getting heavy all you had to do was group and make invisable, but that doesn't seem to work now.


manleystanley ( ) posted Mon, 12 May 2014 at 6:09 PM

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Here is an intermediate, something I was playing around with.

Genesis again, in V3's fairytail costum, a bit of texture play using displacement; the top. This shows how breast tuck can easily be fixed in Hex. That had a serious bad case of tuck and crumple. In Studio I sent it to Hex and used the smoothing tool to fix it. Send it back as a morph and problem solved. It still could be smoother, but I can't manage it in carrara.

What I really like is how well a simple bit of water can blend a scene. All that excluding the pool is one of Dimension theories yosemite HDRIs.

Oh, lets not forget the smoothed/fixed dress center stretch.

I also bumped up the dpi to 96. Defenetly crisped it up nicely. This is one of those things that make me think presonal presets for the render room would be nice.


booksbydavid ( ) posted Tue, 13 May 2014 at 11:38 AM

I'd love to have presets for the render room. I get so tired of ticking the same boxes and moving sliders everytime. What a great idea...that will never happen. :(


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