manleystanley opened this issue on Feb 28, 2014 · 200 posts
manleystanley posted Fri, 28 February 2014 at 3:28 PM
well things are about to get active here lol With the sale of C8.5; meaning at less then $50, I got it. Right now I am busy getting the purposly confusing files sorted.
I know they will work and were they are if they don't so...
Thing is, no CMS means not autofit. no autofit mean no genesis or G2, so I am saving my self a lot, and I mean a lot of downloading and installing.
As I have said for 2 years I absolutly refuse to use CMS or DMI. Which basically means DAZ wont be making any money off me; out side of the C8.5 purches, because I wont be using genesis.
Now I may post on the DAZ forum with my alt, wonder how long it will take them to notice? I mean no one will get that Man Stan is manstan right?
manleystanley posted Fri, 28 February 2014 at 4:01 PM
First up. DAZ content nolonger comes with readmes. So trying to install with out DIM means you're SOL. Unless you know how to to begin with.
Spaceland posted Fri, 28 February 2014 at 4:03 PM
easy to install c8.5 with out DIM, enough info onthe forum for this.
i always install myself, not DIM, so all install is manual.
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tsarist posted Fri, 28 February 2014 at 7:58 PM
Quote - well things are about to get active here lol With the sale of C8.5; meaning at less then $50, I got it. Right now I am busy getting the purposly confusing files sorted.
Congrats Stan. I'm glad to hear you were finally able to pick it up.
If I get some money this week, I will grab it too. I won't be installing it, but getting it so I won't have to pay full ride on C9 whenever that comes out.
Quote - Thing is, no CMS means not autofit. no autofit mean no genesis or G2, so I am saving my self a lot, and I mean a lot of downloading and installing. As I have said for 2 years I absolutly refuse to use CMS or DMI. Which basically means DAZ wont be making any money off me; out side of the C8.5 purches, because I wont be using genesis.
I agree. I never want to use CMS. I really can't even if I wanted to. My machine is not connected to the internet, so no software I own can ever "phone home."
I wish they would fix the darned autofit because I really like the way V5 and V6 look. I'm a really big fan of Olympia 6. HOT!
Quote - Now I may post on the DAZ forum with my alt, wonder how long it will take them to notice? I mean no one will get that Man Stan is manstan right?
Probably until you cause some trouble. LOL!
manleystanley posted Sat, 01 March 2014 at 8:20 AM
I checked and with out CMS what type of clothing never comes up as an option in the autofit. You can select which figure it comes from but not what type of clothing it is.
Fun part? This is not an issue with Studio 4.6. Autofit works just fine with out CMS. So tell me how this isn't carrara spacific because DAZ knows most carraraests wont use CMS. So DAZ made it manditory in carrara. See how much DAZ love us?
manleystanley posted Sat, 01 March 2014 at 9:29 AM

I mean I can not get any saves from studio to open in carrar at all. This uesd to work just fine; in the beta, so why or what did DAZ do to screw this up so badly?
manleystanley posted Sat, 01 March 2014 at 9:31 AM

manleystanley posted Sat, 01 March 2014 at 2:32 PM
And clone account suspended on the DAZ forum. That's ok, heaven forbid someone should have anything but a good opinioin there.
Because it was a clone account, an alt, not because of anything I did other wise.
Oh well. certainly glad I didn't spend full price on an update that the newest feature doesn't work right in.
manleystanley posted Sat, 01 March 2014 at 2:44 PM
Ok, it's official, the beta worked far better then the release version of C8.5. Why on earth did DAZ brake so much in the release version?
booksbydavid posted Sat, 01 March 2014 at 3:47 PM
Thanks, Stan. Guess I'll still hang on to 8.1. If 9 comes out and blows me away, I'll bite, but I'm not going to shell out good money for 8.5 just to stay in the upgrade loop.
tsarist posted Sat, 01 March 2014 at 7:29 PM
Quote - So tell me how this isn't carrara spacific because DAZ knows most carraraests wont use CMS. So DAZ made it manditory in carrara. See how much DAZ love us?
Why is that? Did they ever say why they made it mandatory for Carrara?
I wonder did they think about users whose work computers are not connected to the internet.
I vaguely remember some "official" from Daz saying it wouldn't be necessary and all our worrying was for nothing.
tsarist posted Sat, 01 March 2014 at 7:32 PM
Quote - Well, scrating my head and thinking about a refund. DAZ has just borked C8.5 and any use I may have had for studio. Way to ruin a good thing DAZ. I mean I can not get any saves from studio to open in carrar at all. This uesd to work just fine; in the beta, so why or what did DAZ do to screw this up so badly?
I can't figure out how they screwed up the final release with 2 years of Beta testing under belt. That makes me scratch my head.
Stan, you might as well keep C8.5 if nothing but to stay in the upgrade loop.
That's the only reason I'm trying to scrape up my money to get it now.
ProPose001 posted Sat, 01 March 2014 at 7:36 PM
Hi Stan
Glad to hear that you're on board with C8.5. I'm looking forward to some "exciting posts" from you.
On my desktop machine I run C8.5....no DIM...no CMS...no DS4.x. I add "My Library" via the Content tab, making sure to use "Content" as the file type rather than "Poser Runtime".
It all seems to work for me
manleystanley posted Sat, 01 March 2014 at 9:39 PM
Oh, having lotsOfun. It's not how but where you save that seems to make the difference. Fixed quite a few issues opening studio scenes simply by saving to the "my library" scene or scene subset folders. :?
I'm having issues with carrara not finding the textures, even though the pose/mat loads fine in carrara. I'm of the opinoin Studio 4 can't write an addres byond it's "my library" folder. So even though I can load a character from a runtime in my figure folder, and apply textures to the figure from my figure folder, in Studio, it can't seem to save where those textures are so carrara can open them.
This was not an issue with the beta, didn't have to do any of that before. Bets the saves are dependent on CMS?
I'm doing some more experamenting with genesis and G2, but so far carrara can not open a scene with genesis in it regardless of where I save it.
Also do not convert mil4 or 3 figures to triax and expect carrara to be able to use them. Or at least use them clothed. Seems autofit throse a wrench in to the system.
I love experamenting with this stuff. Hate DAZ seems to have gone out of their way to break so much.
One big boon, I did get a dynaimc clothing animation from studio 4 to carrara :D
manleystanley posted Sun, 02 March 2014 at 10:07 AM
Well I have given up on getting anything from studio to carrara with textures, just not going to happen. Do I see anyone pointing this out on the DAZ forum?
Oh ya, that's right the DAZ forum is just an infomercil for what ever they are selling. Not some place users can discus issues.
manleystanley posted Sun, 02 March 2014 at 11:38 AM

You know that old saying about the defenition of insanity? I can do the same thing the same way and count on different results lol I am walking proof of the chaos theory.
Took a bit of playing around to get the cloths to work/fit. The save had the clothes in genesis instance tree{?}. I had to drag them out then select carrara "fit to" and the poped right on, fit, and didn't even tickle the autofit.
Playing around with a teen morph and K4's clothes. Actually came out kind of cute.
{my testing with dynaimc clothing has been working so I'm spending a few hour reinstalling it all; oh joy}
manleystanley posted Sun, 02 March 2014 at 10:29 PM
Attached Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSgTiPEW16c&list=HL1393821326&feature=mh_lolz
Ahh, ya. Now I remember.ooooK after half an hour I have come to the conclusion posting a video here is beyond me.
Shall we discuss how badly Studio screwed that up?
booksbydavid posted Mon, 03 March 2014 at 10:33 AM
Quote - ooooK after half an hour I have come to the conclusion posting a video here is beyond me.
Shall we discuss how badly Studio screwed that up?
That darned DAZ!!! :)
manleystanley posted Mon, 03 March 2014 at 11:31 AM
Lets start off by saying I think I owe chohole an apology. She is nolonger the prime suspect in my DAZ forum banning. I have also drastically altered my opinion of some one else.
It's also abundently clear that the DAZ carrara forum is the last place to discuss issues with carrara or DAZ. More over it's quite clear that DAZ simply wont fix anything, no profit in it. So if you have issues with C8.5 the only solution you are going to get is workarounds provided by other carrara users, and since I am not on the DAZ forum you wont find them there. But then providing a workaround points out an issue and we can't have people pointing out issues with carrara on the DAZ carrara forum. After all, the DAZ forum is just an infomercial propaganda machine.
Ya, just a little hot. More because the post providing the solution to the issues I was haveing was pulled, then anything else. Heaven forbid some one else should have similar issues because now no one there can provide a solution.
manleystanley posted Mon, 03 March 2014 at 3:32 PM
Here is another one that worked in the beta but doesn't work now. Soft body physics on Genesis/G2 clothes. This worked in the beta, in the release it just shuts carrara down. I don't mean it locks it up, carrara just plain stops working; not using CPU or RAM. I have to kill task to close it.
manleystanley posted Tue, 04 March 2014 at 1:29 PM

I spent an hour trying to figure out how to get modeling in the assembly room to work on this dress for genesis. Conclusion, it doesn't.
manleystanley posted Wed, 05 March 2014 at 7:22 PM
And the hits just keep coming. Now that i have quite a bit sorted I'm back to doing dynaimc clothes animations in Studio to stage in carrara; don't laugh it works.
Having some poke through issues with the clothes; Studio issue, I was using a color; neutral gray in the displacement channel to just push the clothes out a hair. Got some of the worst of it worked out so went to render the aniamtion; was doing stills at bad points for testing.
Boom looked like yesterdays breafast. Checked, displcement channel had reset to default as well as the default red. Three times, identical. The first time the render room figures the displacement for the first frame, it resets the displacement channel to default.
I'm about to try a neutural gray jpeg lol It was just working to good not to make it work for the animation.
"Stan, you're talking to yourself again"
"Ya, so what's your point"?
lol :p
Spaceland posted Thu, 06 March 2014 at 11:19 AM
Talking to yourself mean you are a crazy genius and i have no problem wiht that.
I don't use Carrara for character or animation so i cannot really help you on that one.
Oh by the way, i find your thread to be informative and on some point i am with you with with Daz the way they do their business.
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manleystanley posted Thu, 06 March 2014 at 12:15 PM

The side by side picture shows how well it works. On the left is with displacement, right with out.
manleystanley posted Thu, 06 March 2014 at 3:00 PM

DustRider posted Thu, 06 March 2014 at 7:38 PM
Quote - Something I have discovered that is working well in this dynamic clothing animation; the animation was done in studio and I'm staging it in carrara, is using the displacement channel in the clothing shaders to give them just a push to fix poke through.
The side by side picture shows how well it works. On the left is with displacement, right with out.
That's a great idea Stan, your own custom "push" modifier.
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manleystanley posted Fri, 07 March 2014 at 2:14 PM
Wish I had been doing this all along for poke through, one of those V8 moments. It's so simple dah. Only bad thing so far is if the cloth folds over it's self the fold gets a bit exaggerated.
I have an animation rendering; 1/3 in 6 hours, can't wait to see how it turns out lol Nice detail and lighting, 20 seconds rendered at 60fps, to be reset to 30fps for a 40-+ second slow mo.
tsarist posted Fri, 07 March 2014 at 7:47 PM
So Stan, you've fixed Autofit?
Or is this a "workaround'?
manleystanley posted Sat, 08 March 2014 at 4:49 AM
It's a work around for any poke through. But no, I still can't use autofit in C8.5. It doesn't give me a clothing type option; I can select the character it's coming from and that is it.
Thing is even genesis cloth wont fit genesis with out a bit of poke through; depending on morphs.
manleystanley posted Sat, 08 March 2014 at 9:09 AM
Attached Link: test dc 5b
Here's the finished vid. Not too bad for my 5th try at it.tsarist posted Sat, 08 March 2014 at 7:34 PM
Quote - Thing is even genesis cloth wont fit genesis with out a bit of poke through; depending on morphs.
Have you ever tried the poke thru product?
http://www.daz3d.com/march-madness/poke-away2-for-genesis-2-bundle
It says it works with Carrara too.
manleystanley posted Mon, 10 March 2014 at 8:31 AM
All poke away does is shrink part of the body. It's like cutting off your toes to make a shoe fit. For mil3/4 figures I'd just pull some pollies in the assembly room. With genesis/G2 this isn't an option.
tsarist posted Mon, 10 March 2014 at 8:35 PM
Quote - All poke away does is shrink part of the body. It's like cutting off your toes to make a shoe fit. For mil3/4 figures I'd just pull some pollies in the assembly room. With genesis/G2 this isn't an option.
LOL! Oh, okay. I thought it did something else.
Is there a way to turn off part of the Genesis body?
manleystanley posted Tue, 11 March 2014 at 8:31 AM
I don't know about turn off, but you can always make it invisable; alpha channel.
Genesis and anything run through autofit has protected topoligy, and even after you turn it off, modeling in the assembly room wont work on it.
The problem I am running in to now is multiple carrara content folders. It's as bad as studios content folders used to be. There is my presets, carrara's "my presets" in the DAZ3D folder with studio, then each install of carrara has their own presets folder; C8.1, C8.5beta, and C8.5pro. And the most troublesome of the 3 is C8.5pro. If there was any way to do it I'd combine the 5 "my presets" to one folder. But you can't do that because carrara's content browser wont work that way.
I'm still sorting through all the free stuff that comes with C8.5, but it seems many of the shaders for genesis that came with carrara didn't come with textures. What good is a carrara genesis skin shader with no textures?
In fact I have spent a week getting caught up on content. I finally have all my optitex clothes back in place and am getting caught up on genesis freebies. I've spent the last couple of days running optitex dynaimc clothing aniamtions through Studio. And yes, it has been confirmed DAZ changed the way optitex clothing works from DS3 to studio 4 so it doesn't work as well. The cloth has surface fidelity issues. This expains the todo with Optitex and why you see little being done with it now.
Now if I ran DAZ I'd run it all wrong. It would be all about developmental partners, PAs, and customers. Not $ and profit. But that's just me.
manleystanley posted Wed, 12 March 2014 at 7:05 PM

And that is just as far as I have gotten, genesis, V4 optittex dunaimc clothing, draped in Studio 4 exported to carrara and shaders set. Now to find a car that fits that pose lol
DustRider posted Wed, 12 March 2014 at 8:05 PM
That's great Stan! Always fun to see what you come up with.
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booksbydavid posted Wed, 12 March 2014 at 10:07 PM
She can come sit on my truck. I'll even wash it before she gets here. :)
Looking good.
manleystanley posted Thu, 13 March 2014 at 9:28 AM
"I've Done So Much, With So Little, For So Long, That Now I Can Do Anything With Nothing."
I live by that lol I'm just so used to making what I have on hand work, that I can do quite a bit with a little of nothing except effort ;) I've been using studio as an aid to carrara since DAZ shut down transposer and Studio finally got some tools for working with content; I went to using it for a lot of stuff. Now that DAZ has taken a big; stumbleing, faultering, tripping over it's self, step in to the weight mapped figures relm, I need to learn how to use these new tools.
As in V4 could stand a good weight mapping to fix many of her posing issues. The minute you convert her to Triax is the minute the nightmare begins. And once all is said and done it's doesn't improve posing.
I've been doing a lot of run through testing and have it worked out on how to do the clothing animations in Studio to stage in carrara useing mil3/4, and even genesis; note do not "fit to" mil4 clothes on genesis. The 2 issues I am having now are purly financial, I don't have the clothing control sustem or animate2; or $20 a pop for aniblocks.
This weekend I may be able to scrape together enough cash and coupons to get 1 aniblock set, just not sure which one I could get the most use out of. Right now I am limited to what comes with Studio 4. I also found; well they weren't lost just over looked, the preset settings for optitex clothes; The denim one was a big help wiht M4's polyester cargo pants lol
I worked one out with genesis yesterday, about a 30second animation, once it was done it was plain to see I needed a bra on genesis; that shirt came up high lol I worked out a still using genesis and the optitex boyfriend shirt, once done it was clear geneis needed some panties lol Putting clothes under clothes usually isn't soemthing I need to worry with ;)
I don't usually tell stories with my aniamtions, just working on the technical aspects of it. But I strung several aniblocks together to make "the 50second drunk" with M4. Now if I can get a good runthrough with it, I'll stage in and post it; may be a few weeks I'm having issues with the hoody.
manleystanley posted Thu, 13 March 2014 at 12:21 PM

"good mornen"
manleystanley posted Thu, 13 March 2014 at 11:45 PM

booksbydavid posted Fri, 14 March 2014 at 10:47 AM
Very nice! I had a '65 Thunderbird back in my younger days. Loved that car. Wish I still had it.
manleystanley posted Sat, 15 March 2014 at 12:03 PM
When did the cost of a single character morph triple? I was looking for mil4{3} morphs for the G2 figures, couldn't find any so I am working on a work around; and we know how well those work 
Genesis to carrara with autofit clothes TIPS.
Always save to "scene subset" or "scene" folders in your Studio "my library" folder. Yes PITA
Studio can't seem to write an address for textures that carrara can read, so be prepared to retexture everything. Further PITA.
When you open the studio save of genesis in carrara the clothes wont be fitted. Just drag them out of the genesis tree. Not much of a PITA.
Now for the general wierdness. Sometimes reposing/remorphing genesis works fine, some times the clothes go all wonky.
I think part of the texture issue is not appling mats. As in sometime if I apply a mat in studio the texture will actually make it to carrara.
manleystanley posted Sat, 15 March 2014 at 10:50 PM

This is once again genesis; seriously genesis just looks better posed, V5 skin; I have got to rebuild some shaders, using adzan's hiro 3 clothes, V3's renella hair, and v4.s omaga huntress guns.
Yes, I am having fun putting clothes on dollies, DO WE HAVE AN ISSUE? ![]()
Oh hit this and thought "cool"
http://www.poserpedia.com/index.php?title=Adzan
manleystanley posted Mon, 17 March 2014 at 8:02 AM

manleystanley posted Mon, 17 March 2014 at 8:04 AM

booksbydavid posted Mon, 17 March 2014 at 11:12 AM
You're having too much fun. Stop it. :)
manleystanley posted Mon, 17 March 2014 at 12:01 PM
Makes me wish I had more optitex clothes and aniblocks to play with. Found the aniblock I want but no Pclub discount{?} and a ? voucher. Sorry, spring is coming and my jeep needs attentioin; tune up, oil change, seals are gone in the powersteering pump, got to play the neutral bump game to find the good spot in the sending switch to start it, windshield wipper motor about died this winter. That doesn't leave me much "fun" money
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As I said when I was banned from the DAZ forum, DAZ's loss not mine. I can tell people how to do this on any forum, no need for me to be on the DAZ forum to get people excited about any of this ![]()
tsarist posted Mon, 17 March 2014 at 8:51 PM
Thanks for posting this stuff Stan.
How much trouble was it to get those clothes on the models?
I guess you do have some aniblocks. Do the clothes stay fitted when animated?
manleystanley posted Mon, 17 March 2014 at 9:43 PM

The stretch tests{9} were done by starting at 0 in in the time line and using morphs that fit the clothes close enough, then going forward in the time line and setting the morph for the end figure; a longer time gives you a better chance of a good drape, so 3 seconds for morph + pose at the end frame. {bake timeline, freeze clothes}
DO not "fit" to the non genesis clothes, thats why this is only good for static poses. For aniamtions use the proper clothes/figure. So most of my aniamtions are done with V4; don't have much for the other figures. It's fairly easy to do in studio but it's real touchy so you have to watch your aniamtions; as in any time the animation causes surface to pass through{inside arm through side of chest} things go wonky fast.
I have the animblocks that comes free with studio 4; starter stuff. I supose I could work out a scene using what I have but it's very limited. Note, you can import aniblocks to carrara 8.5; you can I wont again ;)
Oh, I don't mind resetting testures, I will anyway lol
manleystanley posted Wed, 19 March 2014 at 12:59 PM

G1; M&F, V5, M5, G1M4hirez, G1V4hirez, and an assortment of other highrez skins for V4 and M4 to G1.
tsarist posted Wed, 19 March 2014 at 8:26 PM
It looks painful Stan.
LOL!
manleystanley posted Wed, 19 March 2014 at 11:08 PM
I don't get a lot of use out of the mill3 muscle maps, but I bought them for the muscel bump anyway. That is a quick toss together with M3, still a good character to work with.
That beard is one of my favorites to work with. Wish it worked better on Genesis.
I have the elite textures for V4, and a couple of hirez ones for M4. Basically I have to load a blank genesis in studio, apply a mil4 texture, and save out. In carrara I just have to hunt down the elite textures to rebuild them to the genesis shader order.Then dragNdrop the univercial shader ball and name. Excluding test renders about a half an hour per.
That also means setting up preset characters for easy carrara use.
I had a brain storm, and this may sound stupid, but I think I'll run V4 through an animation with the dynaimc pencial skirt, then drape a soft cloth skirt over it in carrara, then vanish the pencial skirt. Don't laugh, my hair brained sceams some times work lol
manleystanley posted Sat, 22 March 2014 at 12:39 PM

The other issue was bad seems showing on the thighs. I'd say the poly stretching was a bit much.
Here's my "scene subset" folder in Studio. Just seems to be the folder things open best to carrara from. Some of these I've worked in carrara already. The rest are nice charaters that I have no scene for lol Some are animations I've yet to get to work the way I want. But "The 50 second drunk" may be my forst real aniamtion. Trying to get the aniblocks for 2 characters in the scene to sink is a
. Both will have dynaimc clothes and are taking some time; several runs, to drape right.
If I can get all that worked out and in to carrara the next challenge will be the gun shots; of coarse key framing part of the animation in carrara should prove to be fun as well. ![]()
manleystanley posted Sat, 22 March 2014 at 4:32 PM

Finally got soft body physics to work on genesis autofit clothes.
This is the exact same thing I have done yet crashed carrara 9 times before; testing different clothes.
Select the actor, go to the modeling room, click view uncheck protected topoligy.
Apply the soft body modifier. Be sure to softbody attach buttons, zippers and such.
Set your scene physics, bullet, use gravety, colision distence 5%
Click simulate physics and wwwwaaaaaiiiittttttt lol
The above picture was me curing the boob tuck that you get from autofit quit often. It is a lowish poly blouse and skirt. Yes both have been soft bodied. ![]()
DustRider posted Sat, 22 March 2014 at 10:35 PM
Cool!! Thanks for the report and how you did it Stan. This could prove extremely useful!
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manleystanley posted Sun, 23 March 2014 at 8:10 AM
Bullet may not be ready for dynaimc clothing aniamations, but I found during the C8.5 beta that it gave clothes a nice drape for stills. It was an easy fix for boob tuck but buttons and such need to be soft body attatched before draping. In the above picture you cant see the waist band string from the dress laying on her foot lol
I pined the one on the blouse but when I pined the one on the dress the drape went all wonky on the blouse. Not at all sure why.
manleystanley posted Mon, 24 March 2014 at 10:01 AM
Well now I have run in to some really bizzar camera issue both poped up in the same scene.
First a simple straight position change from a to b, I hit animate and the camera desides to go through neverland to get to b from a. 3 different cameras same out come. It's just like a 3 meter straight slide but the camera goes way out of the scene in some strange orbital spinning path ![]()
So I decided to do the camera on a plank; drop in a cube flaten it stretch it to the right camera distenc, drop it on genesis hip, move it so one end is on genesis, drop the camera on the plank and move it to the other end. Animating the camera will follow/track the figure nicly; though uinsteady. Got it set up, clicked animate and... the camera vanishes. More over the scene seen through the vanished camera is just genesis rigging, nothing else is in the scene; renders fine. It's easy enough to make the camera visable because the bug just unselects visibility. Select visibility and the camera has trippled in size
I can't find anyway to get the scene back when viewed through the camera. 3 cameras, same thing all 3 times.
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booksbydavid posted Mon, 24 March 2014 at 10:41 AM
Now, that's just too weird.
manleystanley posted Mon, 24 March 2014 at 3:40 PM

manleystanley posted Tue, 25 March 2014 at 9:34 AM

The picture above is after half an hour and carrara still hasn't even begun to save the scene.
I'm sorry I don't need a photo quality thumb.
Up to 45 minutes now and carrara still hasn't actually saved the scene.
manleystanley posted Tue, 25 March 2014 at 9:59 AM

booksbydavid posted Tue, 25 March 2014 at 11:04 AM
The gift that keeps on giving. :)
manleystanley posted Tue, 25 March 2014 at 12:45 PM
Carrara wouldn't have half the issues it does if DAZ would actually listen to it's users rather then ignor them.
As in there is absolutly no need to do a full quality render for a thumb. It should just render a thumb at default settings.
Shader room role back should have been fixed in C6, C9 is on it's way; if you beleive what they say as DAZ, and I'll bet big money we will still have the role back shader list.
Yesterday I found this future mall model, downloaded it, open it in carrara and went to fix all the shaders, 87. Select the shader fix it, scroll down, select a shader, fix it, scroll down. I spent more time scrolling down to select shaders then I did fixing them; and still only got half way before I was just to aggrivated to do more; of coarse the lack of any UV mapping on the model means it's a waste of my time anyway. I mean I would have to take it in to Hex to cut it apart by it's shader zones to reuvmap everything. Did not know this till I had already fixed several shaders.
And this is why I got banned from the DAZ forum, heaven forbid you should talk about the miriad of issues with carrara on the DAZ forum, after all it is just a sales propaganda forum anyway.
manleystanley posted Wed, 26 March 2014 at 9:34 AM

booksbydavid posted Wed, 26 March 2014 at 11:02 AM
Not bad. Like the trail of light coming down.
Yeah, that shader scroll down hassle bugs me all the time. It's a habit now. I automatically start to scroll whenever I go in to change any shaders. That's a habit I'd like to break.
manleystanley posted Wed, 26 March 2014 at 12:54 PM
That is one of the light lens effects; effects tab. Several presets as well as a lot of custamisation options.
Been deep off turning that in to a sunrise aniamtion all morning.
manleystanley posted Wed, 26 March 2014 at 3:39 PM

booksbydavid posted Wed, 26 March 2014 at 9:43 PM
Grandma needs to get back on her meds. Heh, heh.
manleystanley posted Wed, 26 March 2014 at 10:51 PM

But the A4 school girl outfit didn't autofit well at all. No fix to it.
In the mean time EXO in the M4's major chache
"auchuc tellcik {tickcluckpop}
manleystanley posted Thu, 27 March 2014 at 2:25 PM

None the less "Why am I always the maid"?
manleystanley posted Sun, 30 March 2014 at 10:31 AM

Troella
booksbydavid posted Sun, 30 March 2014 at 5:16 PM
Oh, man! You have got to stop before someone gets hurt. :)
tsarist posted Sun, 30 March 2014 at 8:03 PM
Quote - Oh, man! You have got to stop before someone gets hurt. :)
I know!
I start off at the legs and go wow, all the way till I get the face.
LOL!
manleystanley posted Sun, 30 March 2014 at 11:40 PM
You know I am having fun with this; most of the time lol
Right now I am putting together bikinis and swim suits from A3, V3, S3, and V4 for a pool scene; the dream home pool. Well I was, then I got side tracking playing around with the water shader for a couple of hours lol
I thought about doing a Bast figure, but I know what autofit would do to that beautiful form fitting egyption gown of S3's ![]()
Note: A nice build negates a great deal of homely ![]()
manleystanley posted Mon, 31 March 2014 at 7:20 AM

manleystanley posted Mon, 31 March 2014 at 5:51 PM

Genasis in V4's valentine teddy, August hair, in V4's HiDef Amy skin; one of the elite textures although I rest the shader.
I'm not happy witht he bump or eye shine, but other wise it came out nice. I'm not sure about the settings on the SSS though. If some one likes I can put up the settings.
booksbydavid posted Tue, 01 April 2014 at 10:52 AM
I can imagine that hair would cause your cpu to have a heart attack. That's a lot of hair. I don't use that one much. As a matter of fact, most of my recent renders have used short hair just so I don't have to wait until next Christmas for the render to complete.
Interesting about the eye shine. I can see the highlights on the lips. Strange that the eyes aren't showing similar highlights.
tsarist posted Tue, 01 April 2014 at 8:20 PM
That hair looks pretty good Stan.
I started using Carrara's dynamic hair for many of my stills.
It renders slowly, but when it works right, it looks great!
Am actually surprised we don't end up getting more Carrara hair, with how good it turns out.
manleystanley posted Wed, 02 April 2014 at 8:49 AM
First up that is regular or conforming hair. I'd hate to think what the render time would have been for dynaimc hair and SSS lol And a prime example of why I wish I had 4 more of this comp.
The problem with dynamic wigs; if you will, is they don't remain consistent. To see what I mean spend some time styling the hair, save just the hair, then drop it on another figure. Ya, but short hair could easily be done with just a dynaimc hair shader rather then a full dynaimc hair set. Not sure why we don't see a lot of that.
This comp continues to amaze me, it's stats aren't great; i5 and 6 gig, but it's a serious work horse; gateways usually are. I've had Studio working on dynamic clothing while carrara was rendering, and watching a show waiting on both. Not a skip, glitch, or slow down. So that aprilamarseda hair doesn't cause me much slow down. Using that same hair in previous comps would bring a render to a stand still.
But as amazing as hair looks with SSS unless you are doing a close up portrate it's not really worth the quite extended render times. Clothes with SSS; which makes sheer, see though clothes more real, don't take near the render time hit because of the hair transparencies.
Having more fun. Bought the animate runway construction set; model walks and poses, and was working with it yesterday. I was working on having V5 walk through optitex curtains wareing an optitex dynamic dress. Optitex dynamics don't respect each others surfaces like they did in DS3 so the dress and curtains kept snaging on each other. 3 hours of trying yesterday and all I had to show for it was a bad headache; got myself just a bit worked up. It looks like I am just going to have to forget about a graphics card for a bit and get Animate2 for Studio. I've just needed it too often not to have it; and it's onsale right now for as low as I've seen it. If I want this animation to work I'm going to have to tweek the aniblock. Of coarse then I could fix the genesis foot and toe issue; most aniblocks seem to be for mil4 figures so the can do nasty things to genesis, G2 feet and hands.
Don't get me started on NLA clips. If they worked dependably DAZ would be selling NLAblocks ![]()
Today it's suposed to rain all day so I can't continue my spring prep of the yard
so I guess I will be forced to work with these frustrating apps all day ![]()
manleystanley posted Wed, 02 April 2014 at 2:26 PM
I just can't get a brake. Animate 2 was on sale yesterday, made up mind today to get it because I need it, off sale ![]()
manleystanley posted Wed, 02 April 2014 at 7:30 PM
This old dog just learned a new trick ![]()
I had 6 patio chairs and 3 lounge chairs to retexture, did one, looked at the list and thought "what the L" and grabbed the multiple shader domain ball, drug it over to the next chair on the list in the sequencer, and dropped it.
It worked ![]()
booksbydavid posted Wed, 02 April 2014 at 10:45 PM
Ooooo! Happy little accident. I'll have to remember that one. Thanks.
manleystanley posted Thu, 03 April 2014 at 8:24 AM
When I was learning how to use shaders it seems every screwy idea I came up with worked.
One of the new options in C8.5 is the complex shaders, one of those is the multichannel mixer. You can use this with a template to have chromo accents on black leather with only one shader zone.
manleystanley posted Thu, 03 April 2014 at 10:20 AM
Attached Link: test dc7b
Latest optitex run. V5.booksbydavid posted Thu, 03 April 2014 at 10:34 AM
Heh, heh. Nice little dance there. :) Vicki seems pretty pleased with herself.
manleystanley posted Fri, 04 April 2014 at 8:39 AM

This is a rerefit. S3 clothes fited to genesis then refitted to G2F. 4 tests and all went well except for; of coarse, shoes. Shoes seem to be like skins, best on they figure they are designed for. But then that doesn't explain why genesis shoes get mangeled going on genesis lol
No retexturing yet, I was surprised G2Fs skin made it through. Most of the time my Studio scene subset imports come through all gray.
booksbydavid posted Fri, 04 April 2014 at 10:32 AM
Interesting. You're probably right. Next version of Carrara you probably won't be able to do that.
manleystanley posted Fri, 04 April 2014 at 11:04 AM
I can't do it in carrara now. I have to do my fitting in Studio because DAZ fobard autofit in the release version of C8.5.
I absolutly refuse to have CMS on my comp.
manleystanley posted Sun, 06 April 2014 at 8:30 AM
Man, all this time and I still can't get the Black widow morphing motorcycle to load to carrara. It always loads to carrara with all morphs 0ed and none of the morphs seem to work in carrara. Got to be some way in Studio to lock the morphs and save it that way to open in carrara.
Other then that I have been shopping at DAZ. First because I actually had some money left from my income tax return after getting the parts to fix my jeep and getting the stuff I need for spring yard work. Second because I haven't shopped at DAZ in 2 years. And third, it's hard to pass up 88% off ![]()
I got the City streets construction set. Seems cool but is missing a few pieces. I mean there are parts in the preload sections{cr2} that aren't in the individual pieces{pp2}. I also got the moonlight drive in. Small and lacking. For the price though it is worth it. I had to drop in 4 preloads and pump the screen up .5; that is half again bigger, to get a decent sized drive-in. But I still have to come up with a projection shack/snack bar. Makes me wonder if people didn't know drive-ins had a projection shack, they weren't huge plasma screens lol
I'm using the city streets to make something too big for my lacking in ambition. I'm working on a big city park, the city streets is the out side border. I think I have enough buildings to surround the park; got all of Andi3D's buildings {hmm, after a search it appears Andi3d is no more}. As well as a few 3DS prop buildings; a box with a building texture lol I may not finish it but It's a good excersize in figureing out how to use the city streets set.
manleystanley posted Mon, 07 April 2014 at 9:27 AM
Finally snagged animate2, another one day sale at 50% off. I need it too much not to have it. Now all I have to do is learn how to use it lol
manleystanley posted Tue, 08 April 2014 at 12:28 PM
Here's a kicker. Aniblocks baked to key frame in Studio, run better in carrara then Studio lol
booksbydavid posted Tue, 08 April 2014 at 3:00 PM
Heh, heh. Chalk one up for Carrara.
manleystanley posted Wed, 09 April 2014 at 7:50 PM
ooh here's a good one I have to thank 3doutlaw for, well the link anyway. A how to use all your hr2 hair on genesis. It's actually pretty easy to do, baically a bunch of click clicks.
http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewthread/1866/
I keep telling you Studio is a great suport tool for carrara ![]()
booksbydavid posted Thu, 10 April 2014 at 10:41 AM
Cool for Genesis. Studio's interface keeps me away. Right now, I'm strictly a Poser/Carrara pipeline sort of guy (with a little 3dCoat and Silo thrown in). But whatever tool you need for the job is all good.
manleystanley posted Sat, 12 April 2014 at 9:20 AM

booksbydavid posted Sat, 12 April 2014 at 11:30 AM
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manleystanley posted Sat, 12 April 2014 at 1:47 PM
Simple question, describe what you see. Further from this set coming. I'm using G2s effection poses that I just got. This was just the character set render. The set will be a picnic in the park.
booksbydavid posted Sat, 12 April 2014 at 6:05 PM
OK. I see a guy and and a girl gazing meaningfully into each other's eyes and sharing an embrace. They're standing in what looks like a skate park or something urban (not quite sure). Dude's got a heck of a cowlick going on. :)
manleystanley posted Sat, 12 April 2014 at 7:32 PM

And that is wildmane for genesis. I need to tame it a bit.
As usual for me this started off as an intament picnic/date. And now I'm hard at work making the park lol When I got the city steerts cunstruction set; if you're in the Pclub and don't have it it's well worth the $1.99, I got the idea for a city park. Trees and shrubs will be carrara's, except for the cherry trees I'll put in that median. Those as well as any flowers will be Lisa's. And as far as the rest, well, I do have litterly dozens of gigs of props, I'm sure I can fill a park with appropriate content lol.
I'd like to do a full park, and I mean one I can do an animated walk through of. I might as well show me building it and giving credit; if at all possable, for the parts I use.
So far that is carrara's terrain converted to vert to model to suit the scene. And petipet's City roads at DAZ. Man, I used to know the names of all the DAZ PAs, I don't recognize many now.
booksbydavid posted Sat, 12 April 2014 at 10:13 PM
Very ambitious project. Can't wait to see how it turns out.
manleystanley posted Sun, 13 April 2014 at 12:11 AM

But I think I can start this story. I mean this is just going to be a series of renders with this couple and the G2 effection poses; on G1 lol
Carol and Danny went on a couple of dates in highchool, but they just didn't click then. Carol went off to college and got a degree in library scince. Danny became an archatect. Recently Danny ran in to Carol while researching old city plans at the library. They chated for a bit and decided to go on a picnic.
booksbydavid posted Sun, 13 April 2014 at 11:44 AM
Cool.
No seatbelts. Danny and Carol are risk takers. Exciting! :)
Before I say anything more, do you want criticism or not? Don't want to offer if it isn't wanted.
manleystanley posted Sun, 13 April 2014 at 12:14 PM
What to do while waiting on a hirez render in carrara?
Convert hair with Studio lol I'm also trying that conversion method on a few smart props. Works well for M3 hats lol
Doubt you'll point out what I haven't seen, but go for it ![]()
booksbydavid posted Sun, 13 April 2014 at 12:28 PM
Heh, heh.
Well, looking at all the images so far, the main impression I get is that this is all happening on a cloudy, dreary day. Since they're going on a picnic, I'm assuming that it is not a dreary day. My suggestion would be to add a sunlight to the lighting setup. Place it wherever the HDRI has the sun coming from and adjust. I can see the highlights, but there ought to be more on a sunny day.
Of course, I'm only assuming this is a sunny day. :)
I find I often have to add a sunlight, or some other light to 'help out' the HDRI. I've tried cranking up the HDR intensity, but that never gives me the results I'm looking for.
That's all. Your scenes are always much larger than I usually ever attempt. I usually try to watch when you start one, because there's always something new to learn.
manleystanley posted Sun, 13 April 2014 at 1:18 PM
I see Poserdom as a meeting place. There are people that started with Poser/Studio and are used to working close scenes. And there are people that started at some different point in CG. I actually started with game modding. The first CG app I ever bought was Terragen. So I am used to working in the big out doors. I only bought TG to begin with to make Hirez skydomes for the racing game I was modding lol
But ya, that car scene is done with stage lights not day light. It's not done yet though. I want to add some people on the side walk, work on those store fronts. I'm also looking for a better car. It needs to be a convertable, but more of an everyday car. For some reason all I have are sports cars and muscle cars lol My options right now are the S2000 there, a BMW, or a miata that needs to be completely retextured. Right now that miata loks like a kids toy because it is all base colors; I can't read french so I had to find out what shader was what part ![]()
{it's embarising because I took french in school but was studying the teacher more then the languge} ooh lala
booksbydavid posted Sun, 13 April 2014 at 4:25 PM
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I took Spanish. My teacher was scary looking (I had nothing to concentrate on but the language), and I still don't know Spanish.
I guess I'm one of those small scene folks, although I can go global when the need arises.
Interested in seeing how this one turns out. Good luck on the car search.
manleystanley posted Sun, 13 April 2014 at 7:48 PM

No it's not dynaimic now; well not in Studio
But this was done the same way as the hair; same old issues. Long dresses; beyond knee length, don't convert well. So far so good though. One good thing, poser dyncmic clothes are usually simple and low poly so drape well in carrara. ![]()
manleystanley posted Mon, 14 April 2014 at 9:03 AM

booksbydavid posted Mon, 14 April 2014 at 10:54 AM
Oooo! Better. I think I like that car better, too. Good color. I really like the reflections on the car. Very nice. Oh, and the people in the background really add life to the scene.
manleystanley posted Mon, 14 April 2014 at 7:41 PM
If you want to try the Poser dynaimc conversion with studio, Planit3d has a big selection of free V3 clothes; yes you will need the mil3 iconic shapes for genesis.
I've been trying to rebuild my Poser dynamic clothes library, I deleted it all a while back ![]()
In my opinion the best bang for the buck when it comes to figures is the head/body morphs, and for genesis/G2F/M the iconic shapes.
I've hit a few V4 dynamic dresses that totally lock up Studio in the process. It's a fairly fast process most of the time. I've got it down to about 3 minute load to finished save. How well this works on props seems to be random, I'm sure it's something obvious I'm over looking.
Thanks booksbydavid, I think I'm up to 3 hours on that. But the "scene" and the "extras" are presets. I have a carrara folder that is all preset scenes, like stonemasons or Jack's sets, with textures and lighting set up. Most of my time on that scene was staging, getting all the characters in place. Even retexturing the car; including fixing the windshield so the glass shader worked right, only took about half an hour.
For me opening a new "set" in carrara is like opening an Xmas present. Some times it's good, some times not, but certain relatives I can count on lol
manleystanley posted Tue, 15 April 2014 at 10:17 AM

Yes there is still some poly stretching but stick to solid colors and it should work fine.
booksbydavid posted Tue, 15 April 2014 at 10:19 AM
I haven't been to Planit3d in ages. I forgot about it. Thanks for the reminder.
Oh, and you're welcomd and Merry Christmas. :)
manleystanley posted Wed, 16 April 2014 at 12:10 PM

Cut it apart by it's shader zones, stretch the building and roof, moved lights to fill spaces and clear the back side. Add a projection window, duplicated and moved an interior wall, and duplicated the back door and moved it to the new interior wall.
All the shaders dropped right on the new model, but I had to go in to the modeling room, select uvmapping, and uncheck wrap u values.
booksbydavid posted Wed, 16 April 2014 at 12:21 PM
Hey, not bad!
The drive-in I went to back in the day also had a huge snack bar attached to the projection room. It also had a playground area right beside it. I remember as a kid being bored with the movie and going back to the play area to play while mom and dad watched the movie. It's a weird feeling to be playing in the dark while there's a giant movie screen flashing and bizarre echoing sound coming from all the speakers attached to all the cars.
Now that was an experience.
manleystanley posted Wed, 16 April 2014 at 2:06 PM
We're dateing our selves. The playground will be at the base of the screen in front of the parking area; like the one that used to be here
Even got the old style heavy iron playground equipment.
Is it just me or does it seem that in general, life for kids was a lot more hazardes 50 years ago then it is now?
booksbydavid posted Wed, 16 April 2014 at 4:18 PM
I don't know if it was more hazardous, but it sure was a lot more fun. I remember glorious days riding around my hometown with my friends on our bikes. We'd stay gone all day and probably travel 20 miles round trip and no one worried about us. I'd walk two miles to the 'local' mom and pop shop for drinks, candy and the odd toy paid for by the deposits I got from collecting bottles on the walk to the store. It was great walking to the store with not money and leaving with a cold drink and some sweet candy.
Those were the days, my friend. :)
And I do miss the drive-in. My kids don't know what they're missing.
manleystanley posted Wed, 16 April 2014 at 6:26 PM
Yes, but that was back when your antena only picked up 5 or 6 stations, and at least one was PBS; public broadcasting. lol And your dad had a TV you were allowed to watch some times lol
Hey, PBS was great, introed me to Monty, as well as a bunch of other britcoms.
But ya, we remember when we got mad because we had to stay in all day when the weather was bad
Two of my brothers kids have to take viatem D, you know, the one you get from sunshine. ![]()
I've read that rickets is coming back, an issue caused by lack of sunlight. It was practically wiped out when they made child labor laws. Thank you internet. Well more like parents that don't set restictions and rules.
I had something going here still I posed my big burly thug and he turned in to a super model. I hate when poses carry morphs. Back to square one.
tsarist posted Wed, 16 April 2014 at 8:35 PM
Quote - We're dateing our selves. The playground will be at the base of the screen in front of the parking area; like the one that used to be here
Even got the old style heavy iron playground equipment. Is it just me or does it seem that in general, life for kids was a lot more hazardes 50 years ago then it is now?
Looks good Stan
I have only been to a Drive-In twice (I didn't grow up in the US), but when I went it was so much fun. Better variety of snacks than at the cineplex.
And yes, life was quite a bit more hazardous years ago. I remember doing all sorts of things that would be frowned upon today.
manleystanley posted Wed, 16 April 2014 at 10:14 PM

Years later I realized what made kids fall was fear. I never fell, but did get flustered a few times and stopped. It was an 10" wide ledge; .25m. All you had to do was ride straight. Still, the sort of test that builds character and self confidence that kids seem to be protected from today.
Here he is. Not sure what borked the last time, wasn't actually the pose, so ![]()
"Babes, bullet, bombs... DAMN, I love this job". Duke Nukem.
Genesis in M4's uzilite HD suit. S3's flat top; for some reason M3's wouldn't convert to well. Still trying to get eh rest of the Duke Nukem look together. I'll use Hiro's urben trcking suspenders for the suspender/bandoleres, and I know I have a set of pilots glasses some place ![]()
manleystanley posted Thu, 17 April 2014 at 12:40 AM
Why do none of these cafe's have kitchens? Looks like I will need to make a grill and fryer. Not like they would be complex models lol But I am getting the moonshine interior parts 2; has some stuff I need for the snackshack. I've got the moonshine diner on my wish list but I need some of it's parts now lol
Now I am A Jack Tomalin fan. I know his content is going to be good, and I like his style. But what to do with West Park Ablutions?
What can I say, I have all the dream home rooms, grounds, and such; not the furniture, and have never done anything with it till recently. I started building this pool party scene; still working on it, still not happy with the pool water. Still need that one more set of pool poses. Half my wish list is $1.99 items lol
booksbydavid posted Thu, 17 April 2014 at 11:49 AM
Quote - And yes, life was quite a bit more hazardous years ago. I remember doing all sorts of things that would be frowned upon today.
Grownups always frown on things that are the most fun. :)
I remember my local public park. It was full of gasp metal! Everything. There was a slide, I remember it well. It was metal, hot as anything in the summer, ten feet tall and fast as lightning. That was an awesome slide.
@Stan- Duke Nukem. I haven't thought about him in ages. I need to get that game for my son. He'd love it.
manleystanley posted Sat, 19 April 2014 at 5:04 PM

I have a few more tweaks to make, only one nice oak in right now. I want to add a parking lot to the loop end, track down some blank sign models for oneway and do not enter; I have them... someplace
I need to replace that one straight with a path off set, then I can paint the pathes on to the terrain and level it here and there for benches, tables and such.
I think I will make the park a bit of a valley and mirror my terrain on the oposet side. The put in a bunch of benches, maybe a band stand, defenetly a nice fountain; got it, and chess tables. I'll just do up a texture on a stone table.
We'll see where it takes me ![]()
booksbydavid posted Sat, 19 April 2014 at 7:48 PM
And we're all invited to the grand opening, right?
Man, this is going to be a big job.
manleystanley posted Sun, 20 April 2014 at 1:17 PM

booksbydavid posted Sun, 20 April 2014 at 1:30 PM
Well, it's going to look good when you're done.
tsarist posted Sun, 20 April 2014 at 2:48 PM
Yeah, I agree with Books, it's going to look nice when you finish.
FYI, in case you forgot, you can pick up a lot of freebies here at Rendo to flesh out your scenes.
I forget that fact sometimes.
There are also some really nice freebies over at RDNA.
manleystanley posted Sun, 20 April 2014 at 4:22 PM
Oh ya, don't forget sharecg. I have plenty of stuff. Too much lol
Like that flat I set up is for a building, it's not a problem of finding one to go there, but which one
More over, carrara not being limited by format, I have a huge selection of buildings I can download.
manleystanley posted Mon, 21 April 2014 at 9:16 AM
Well here we go, running in to issues. Now everything I dorp in that scene is stuck on the X axis, I can move them along the Y and Z, but not the X. ![]()
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booksbydavid posted Mon, 21 April 2014 at 10:14 AM
OK, that's bizarre. Never had that happen.
manleystanley posted Mon, 21 April 2014 at 2:27 PM
There are actually a lot of parts to the scene, it takes 5.7 of my 8 gig when open. But it's not like me running in to bizzare bugs is anything new ![]()
tsarist posted Mon, 21 April 2014 at 7:25 PM
Quote - Well here we go, running in to issues. Now everything I dorp in that scene is stuck on the X axis, I can move them along the Y and Z, but not the X.
I have had this happen sometimes.
If you go into (I'm doing this from memory) the section where you can change scale, and orientation, make sure you unlock everything.
You might need to go to "Custom" and unlock it manually.
I will find out the exact names of what I'm talking about and post it tomorrow if you don't know what I'm talking about.
tsarist posted Thu, 24 April 2014 at 8:08 PM
Stan
Did my answer help you or anyone or do you need more details?
manleystanley posted Fri, 25 April 2014 at 8:49 AM
Sorry. Had to step back from it for a bit. Been playing a game for a few days. But I figured out for some reason constraints were locked on new pieces to the scene. As in they come in with "full" constraint and I have to reset them to none to move them around. But your suggestion got me looking in the right spot to fix it.
Thanks.
manleystanley posted Wed, 30 April 2014 at 10:08 AM

booksbydavid posted Wed, 30 April 2014 at 10:47 AM
Very nice!
manleystanley posted Sun, 04 May 2014 at 7:34 AM
Yesterday I got dimensional theory's yosemite HDRI sets 1 and 2. Glad I hadden't counted on using any of the carrara files. None will load to carrara; C8.5. Carrara gives me a file format error for the back ground and the lights will open a new scene, which is actually a problem. I can't bring them in to an exciting scene, everytime I try carrara just opens another scene for the lights.
Now am I going to jump, gripe, complain? No. You know how much HDRIs cost? These 2 packs gave me 12 Hirez nature HDRIs as well as the spherical maps that I can take in to Genetica and manipulate the lighting for different HDRIs; sunset, moonlite, fog, forsets fire. All that for $4, I ain't complaining :D
Still wish I could get my carrara folders together, seems I have mine, DAZ's, 1 in C8.1 and 1 in C8.5. I need to cut Daz's and drop it in mine, then go to the 2 in carrara ones and clear out everything but the scene wizard stuff.
Of coarse I've been saying for a year I need to clear out my Poses runtime and get all those mil1 and 2 poses out of it. lol
manleystanley posted Thu, 08 May 2014 at 2:37 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuK6n2Lkza0
booksbydavid posted Thu, 08 May 2014 at 4:54 PM
Cool video.
Nice diner, too. I remember going to the local drive-in diner when I was a kid. It was called 'Arnold's'. Just like in Happy Days. No kidding.
manleystanley posted Thu, 08 May 2014 at 8:50 PM
New song with that bebop sound. Seemed to fit the theam. Jack has given me a lot to work with, I mean I have plenty for some mad scientist zombie out break. Or any 50's, 60's flash back lol
I was working on one a while back, good idea for a graphic novel, but me being me I got so obsesed with finding the right furniture from the scene in my head, for the hospital waiting room, that it got parked. The reason I like Jack's stuff is I can count on it, I get how he builds, and as evidenced by much he creates, we think alike lol
Seriously, what name would be better for some one doing macabra the Jack? ![]()
Goth isn't makeup you put on, or clothes you ware, it lives, or dies in your heart. It's not frearing the dark, or anything that moves in it. It's reveling in the fact light would be meaningless with out darkness. Dark is not evil, it's just the absence of light. Goth is being excited about the prospect of haughted houses and walks through grave yards. It's not black clothes and guyliner. {although I love deep, dark reds, and could use some "just for men"}.
Yes, I was the kid that had the latest issues of eerie and creepy back in the day ![]()
booksbydavid posted Fri, 09 May 2014 at 10:57 AM
I've still got a stack of Eerie and Creepy. Ah, the good old days. :) That stuff would send chills down my spine every time.
tsarist posted Fri, 09 May 2014 at 8:12 PM
Quote - I've still got a stack of Eerie and Creepy. Ah, the good old days. :) That stuff would send chills down my spine every time.
Yes!
Eerie and Creepy are the best. Great stories and aweesome art.
booksbydavid posted Fri, 09 May 2014 at 9:39 PM
Quote - > Quote - I've still got a stack of Eerie and Creepy. Ah, the good old days. :) That stuff would send chills down my spine every time.
Yes!
Eerie and Creepy are the best. Great stories and aweesome art.
:)
And Vampirella.
One of the first pictures I ever drew that was anything close to being good was of Vampirella. She was awesome!
manleystanley posted Sat, 10 May 2014 at 7:27 AM

It covered it all and had some of the best art work of the time. But then it had some of the most drug induced story lines I've ever read lol
Once I get all these blasted lights set on the Moonshine diner I might put them up as a freebie on the carraracafe.
And here is another goody I stumbled over lastnight while working on this. I was haveing issues with the waitress dres not posing well with genesis. Typical bell dress with no movement. So in Studio I loaded G1, loaded the dress, selected the dress and opened the active pain menu; screen cap provided, selected assists, transfer utility, selected source:scene item: genesis, shape default. Selected target:scene item: the skirt, shape default. selected projection template skirt, then clicked accept.

manleystanley posted Sun, 11 May 2014 at 10:01 AM

booksbydavid posted Sun, 11 May 2014 at 1:36 PM
Looking good. Keep at it. :)
manleystanley posted Mon, 12 May 2014 at 8:09 AM
Well this is turning in to every big scene I work on. It's gotten too big to be easily worked. Even grouping and makeing the groups invisable isn't working. The scene is using 6 of my 8 gig when open and I may have to scale it down considerable to finish what I was up to to begin with.
I've said I have the skill to do Howiesc like scenes, but like Howies scenes they get to the point my comp just wont push them. I could double the ram for $160; but I can't afford the $30 graphics card I need ![]()
I still want the same features in the scene, but I'm going to have to scale it to 1/8 or so.
manleystanley posted Mon, 12 May 2014 at 10:59 AM

booksbydavid posted Mon, 12 May 2014 at 11:24 AM
You try using Dimension Theory's Ecomantics Effecient Ecosystems to replace the tree lines you have there. They are planes with tree/forest images. They look pretty good, especially if you layer them in offset. Might help with resources.
manleystanley posted Mon, 12 May 2014 at 1:40 PM
I think this is an issue with C8.5. Used to be when a scene started getting heavy all you had to do was group and make invisable, but that doesn't seem to work now.
manleystanley posted Mon, 12 May 2014 at 6:09 PM

Genesis again, in V3's fairytail costum, a bit of texture play using displacement; the top. This shows how breast tuck can easily be fixed in Hex. That had a serious bad case of tuck and crumple. In Studio I sent it to Hex and used the smoothing tool to fix it. Send it back as a morph and problem solved. It still could be smoother, but I can't manage it in carrara.
What I really like is how well a simple bit of water can blend a scene. All that excluding the pool is one of Dimension theories yosemite HDRIs.
Oh, lets not forget the smoothed/fixed dress center stretch.
I also bumped up the dpi to 96. Defenetly crisped it up nicely. This is one of those things that make me think presonal presets for the render room would be nice.
booksbydavid posted Tue, 13 May 2014 at 11:38 AM
I'd love to have presets for the render room. I get so tired of ticking the same boxes and moving sliders everytime. What a great idea...that will never happen. :(
manleystanley posted Tue, 13 May 2014 at 10:17 PM
I; well I'm sure we all could, write a list of great ideas for carrara, but...
I'd love to be able to set up camera settings per camera.
Say a scene like that swamp one I was working on a while back; it's done. It have 9 cameras all set for shots, but I don't want to render them all with the same camera setting. So I can render, reset, adjust camera; render, reset, adjust camera; ect. But with the render setting I have each camera is about a 12-14 hour render; and why you've only seen one ![]()
bhoins posted Tue, 13 May 2014 at 10:25 PM

On your computer what do the load, save and wizard buttons for render preset do?
manleystanley posted Tue, 13 May 2014 at 11:50 PM
No I mean a setting in preferences. You know, so the scene loads with my preferences.
But then my preferences is for meteric, wish scenes always loaded that way ![]()
manleystanley posted Wed, 14 May 2014 at 1:14 PM

Despite clams to contray from the so called experts, you can easily convert Redvipers; or any other clothes made spacifically for Aiko 4, using autofit. Takes about 15 minutes and $15. First you have to buy the Mil 4 iconic shapes; COB that I am it was worth it just for the personal satifaction of proving a couple people wrong ![]()
Then sort of follow this tutorial http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewthread/24093/P30/#357032
booksbydavid posted Wed, 14 May 2014 at 4:28 PM
Heh, heh. :)
manleystanley posted Wed, 14 May 2014 at 8:44 PM
I'd put up a tutorial on how I did it. Honestly it is easy; I mean I did it so how hard could it be? ![]()
It was quite similar to exporting and importing a morph target. It's mostly just makeing the right menu selects
Worth it if you're a fan of redvipers clothes. You will have to do some smoothing; but what clothes going though autofit don't need smoothing ![]()
Yes, there will be a bit of poke through; reffer to last snide remark, but that displaceent map thing fixes it easy enough; really doesn't add a lot of render time because you are not displacing a pattern.
I'll put up some renders later but right now I need to go kill some alien invaders. ![]()
booksbydavid posted Wed, 14 May 2014 at 11:03 PM
Man, you can never ignore alien invaders. Go get'em!
manleystanley posted Thu, 15 May 2014 at 11:03 AM

Here's the first one, redviper's platinum outfit for A4. I must have really been dozy last night, I closed carrara and neglected to save about an hours work on that. ![]()
Now, I need to come up with an animaish set for these figures. I don't watch the cute anime, but I like to do these cute character portrates. The anime I like is Helsing, blood++, and cowbot bebop lol
manleystanley posted Thu, 15 May 2014 at 7:48 PM
"It's the lights".
hmmm?? picture isn't attaching.
manleystanley posted Thu, 15 May 2014 at 10:48 PM
Try this again.
Nope, think it's broke. I'll clear cookies and try again.
manleystanley posted Fri, 16 May 2014 at 6:04 PM
Ok, next day, lets see if it works.
manleystanley posted Fri, 16 May 2014 at 6:11 PM
Ok, next day, lets see if it works.
OOOK. there is more then one way to skin a cat; of coarse there is only one right way lol
"it's the lights" Genesis and redvipers platinum out fit.

manleystanley posted Fri, 16 May 2014 at 6:15 PM
And the one I was working on today. Genesis, redviper blossom outfit, and pretty3d's love fairy wings.
I don't know, the stuff from redviper just strikes my cute cord lol

manleystanley posted Thu, 22 May 2014 at 7:14 AM

booksbydavid posted Thu, 22 May 2014 at 12:30 PM
Cool one. Nice lighting.
manleystanley posted Thu, 22 May 2014 at 9:22 PM
Thanks. I want to tweak some textures, but I'm not touching the lighting, hitting a nice balance like that is hard. Well for me anyway. That is genesis female, M3 clothes; wastelander or something like that, an assasins hood; I apolagize I have things running so can't check on items or PAs. The HDRI is a freebei. Some are great, some are sad and some are made for apps that use the enviromental light seperate from the HD background.
I mean it's cool you can use the HDRI light seperate from the pictute/background, but these HD backgrounds are for a dome.
I've figured a way to use them, but I can't say I like it, probably doing it wrong.
When I get the chance, IF I haven't forgotten{
} I see about putting up a render.
manleystanley posted Tue, 03 June 2014 at 5:12 PM
Just found out DAZ has borked the audio in C8.5, no matter what I do I only get 3 seconds of audio in a render.
Is it possable for DAZ to do anything with carrara with out screwing up 3 or 4 features? C8.5 has the most borked features of any build of carrara I have ever used. In every build of carrara DAZ seems to brake more features then it intros, then they never get fixed.
It's becoming quite apparent C8.5 was carrara's swan song. DAZ has developed it right in to ruination.
manleystanley posted Wed, 18 June 2014 at 2:38 PM

booksbydavid posted Thu, 19 June 2014 at 12:00 PM
Love the lights and background. Cool!
manleystanley posted Fri, 20 June 2014 at 10:38 PM

tsarist posted Sat, 21 June 2014 at 8:24 PM
Sorry to hear about your cat Stan
Hope you feel better soon.
Quote - I'm going to be pretty broke up for a while. Had him all his life.
headwax. posted Sat, 21 June 2014 at 9:19 PM
Quote - I'm going to be pretty broke up for a while. Had him all his life.
os sorry about your cat Stan :( animals can be a man's best friend
DustRider posted Sun, 22 June 2014 at 10:39 AM
Sorry to hear about your companion Stan.
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booksbydavid posted Sun, 22 June 2014 at 1:01 PM
Sorry about your loss.
manleystanley posted Mon, 30 June 2014 at 7:23 AM

Here is a first, that made it through from Studio to carrara with out losing all the textures. Makes me wound why it all worked right.
Note: Studio must be doing so serious smoothing claculations because the dress didn't have that tucked when I saved it in studio. G2F V6. Just a drop in and render, I haven't worked on anything in the scene yet.
manleystanley posted Wed, 02 July 2014 at 12:25 PM

Rendering a WIP of "Ghastley night nurse" semi erotic horror? Still have to rest all of Jack's westpark set; just have the glass done so far, to reset the textures on. The hair just doesn't do it for me. And I need the eyes to reflect some light, But for G2F V6 she hasn't been bad to work with; out side of the G2F/M grip poses I have erroring out ![]()
Got Studio and Hex going to fix some brest tuck. I want that V4 shape for G2F because it has a list of autofit fixes/morphs. Genesis clothes by Ghastley fit fine on G2F; I rework them a bit for taste, and for better draping in carrara. I'll show something off once I have something I like enough to show off. Not being able to tug polies in the assembly room has made some of this a PITA. I can drape over IF body parts aren't through ![]()
manleystanley posted Sun, 13 July 2014 at 6:44 PM

headwax. posted Sun, 13 July 2014 at 6:53 PM
nice render stan, can you make the eyes bigger then reduce the iris size, might make them look more open, o r just googley eyed
ncamp posted Sun, 13 July 2014 at 7:25 PM
Have you tried the eyelid bottom down and eyelid top up parameters?
ncamp
manleystanley posted Sun, 13 July 2014 at 7:38 PM
I have those morphs now so I could probably fix it, but I'd have to reload G2F. Thing is when V6 is 0ed the eyes are set to 34% squint; which is set to 0 here. V6 from Colorado? Or just too vain to ware her glasses lol
Other wise the figure is nice. A bit skinny for my taste but it's the style today; I can fix that lol
Victoria, let me introduce you to fried chicken, mashed potatoes and gravy, and corn on the cob. :D
Can't say I like the Belle skin much. I mean it's nicly done, good detail, no seams, but apparently she always wares a long sleaved shirt lol The arms are several shades pailer then the legs/face. You can see it in the shoulders there.
I can fix that too lol
Have to run it through some Genetica filters to even the pigment; but it will lose some detail. If I do that I might as well try to make some racial skins. I've done quite a few for V/M3 and V/M4. I've actually done a lot of experamenting with Genetica and mil4 hirez skins. Culminated in the M4 sailor skin; lots of tatoos. And the V4 snake skin; had ugly seams in the dispalcement map I couldn't fix.
Oh, just FYI, that is pretty well a stock render. I got a bit worked up about the eye squint so had to save it and leave it for a bit ![]()
And that is the fishtail hair from DAZ. real nice hair, sort of timless.
I miss the mil3 eyebrows
need to see if I can make eyebrow dispalcement maps.
manleystanley posted Mon, 14 July 2014 at 10:08 AM

manleystanley posted Mon, 14 July 2014 at 10:13 AM

manleystanley posted Wed, 30 July 2014 at 4:43 PM
I've been rather negligent of this thread, so to get you all up to speed.

Ghastley nightmare dancers

fighting nun

protagonist

not running in this dress; still need to get the gun in her hand lol
and about 4 of these

tsarist posted Thu, 31 July 2014 at 12:28 AM
Stan
is that background on the first image from one of Jack Tomalin's West Park series?
Thanks
By the way, very creepy image.
booksbydavid posted Thu, 31 July 2014 at 1:14 AM
I like the fighting nun. Is that broken glass on the ground. Pretty cool.
manleystanley posted Thu, 31 July 2014 at 7:55 AM
Yep, that is west park. I'm a big fan of Jack. This one actually got me side track to a shower scene, but not for this forum ;) I have Jack's West Park Ablutions, but need to work on new textures; old and creepy doesn't work well for a erotic showers scene.
That broken glass is suposed to be cluter; brikes, wood, glass, but a lot of the pieces seem to want to float. I may have to cut the clutter in to individual pieces, then drop it, let carrara do the calculations so all the peices lay flat on a flat surface.
You want a good laugh? I have more issues with DAZ products the any other. All four of those scenes that wont open in carrara was using clothes that came with Genesis from DAZ. When I get this double script warning in studio I know it will not open in carrara. Also if I am trying on several sets of clothes in Studio the save will be corupt. I mean if I load Genesis/G2, and trying on clothes; remove from scene, try on next set, loading the scene to carrara will error out. For some reason all those clothes that have been removed from the scene are still part of it and carrara can't find them to load the scene.
booksbydavid posted Thu, 31 July 2014 at 11:36 AM
It's hard to tell the clutter is floating in the small pic, but it does give the scene a nice feel.
manleystanley posted Sat, 02 August 2014 at 7:56 AM

Well this is carrara, I have options. The set came with singles, so I took a single brick, duplicated it 100 times in to 8 stacks, dropped them and let the physics do the rest.
I don't have GI turned on here so it's a bit dark. Still things to do like retexture the bricks so they don't look so squar and clean edged.
booksbydavid posted Sat, 02 August 2014 at 10:27 AM
That poor little nun sure did make a mess. :)
manleystanley posted Sat, 02 August 2014 at 12:55 PM
Since I have the scene set up I could easily drop a couple bodies on the floor, then the bricks. But then I'd have to do some retextureing to get the blood a gore right. I mean I could, but I have one going in to it's 14th hour of rendering that will need a blood/gore flag. I could take it a step further, but I need to see how people wil react to mild gore first. I do have the V4/M4 internal organs, and some errr well externalized organs, both will work on Genesis; G2 with in reason.
Ya, this is looking like a 26 hour render. Hope I'm not disapointed.
booksbydavid posted Sat, 02 August 2014 at 5:59 PM
Working out a few frustrations, Stan? (heh, heh) Interested to see how it all turns out.
manleystanley posted Sat, 02 August 2014 at 7:39 PM

This is tame. Some I have done would give away how warpped I am.
Remeber I was a fan of eerie and creepy at about 9 ![]()
"Ghastley night nurse".
Ghastly's nurse outfit from shareCG, G2F, Jack's West park, I forget the hair lol I beleve that is actually V6? Trying to get the eyes to stand out I may have went to far. Turned out to be just an 18 hour render, the further along it got the faster it went.
Oh almost forgot, the blood spaters are a set I found on sharecg by red_viper. Suposed to be soap lol
booksbydavid posted Sun, 03 August 2014 at 10:40 AM
Hellloooo, nurse! And goodbye! lol
I still have a collection of Creepy and Eerie from my youth. I remember they used to give me the shivers, but I just kept on getting them. Some of them still do give me the shivers.
Thanks for the soap/blood. I'll have to go over to sharecg and look that up.
manleystanley posted Sun, 03 August 2014 at 9:43 PM
"I stopped having nightmares when I started enjoying them".
tsarist posted Sun, 03 August 2014 at 10:29 PM
I'm sure not going to that hospital!
Cool pic Stan.
manleystanley posted Mon, 04 August 2014 at 8:26 AM
The more I look at it the more it screams for a couple zombie bodies on the floor.
booksbydavid posted Mon, 04 August 2014 at 7:41 PM
She needs to be holding a zombie head in her hand. That would make it complete. :)
manleystanley posted Mon, 04 August 2014 at 8:40 PM
Yes but we are talking the DAZ forum.
But I have G1 zombafied for the nurse, and goblinated for the nun; bodys under those bricks just sounded too good lol
booksbydavid posted Tue, 05 August 2014 at 10:43 AM
Bricks and bodies. How can you go wrong? Heh, heh