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Subject: Need help and advise please!


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angreif ( ) posted Sun, 14 August 2022 at 4:17 PM · edited Sat, 18 May 2024 at 2:47 PM

Got myself a newer Box, stronger, bigger and faster. Problem is two fold.

1) When I copied my Daztime smart content did not come along. 

2) I am not finding the content search so daz can recognize what I copied from the old computer. 

Tried to load the newest Daz but my lack of a consistent internet connection  caused me to du.p that and install 4.15 like on the old box.

I use a combination manual and offline loading.

Thanks


RHaseltine ( ) posted Mon, 15 August 2022 at 9:46 AM

Did you copy the old database axross? if not had you exported userdata, then reimported metadata on the new system?


angreif ( ) posted Mon, 15 August 2022 at 11:31 AM

Copied to external drive then to new drive.  Guess smart data somewhere else.

Upgraded to win 10 from 7. My Documents and owner folders obsolete. Put files in Documents.




angreif ( ) posted Mon, 15 August 2022 at 5:49 PM

Not thrilled with loading Daz Central but would give a cleaner install if I can pick and choose what to load.

Getting Daz to search for content would be nice or getting the correct Win 10 path would be very helpful.


RHaseltine ( ) posted Mon, 15 August 2022 at 6:05 PM

Smart content is driven by the database, though nothing will show if the files themselves cannot be seen.

You don't need to search, just set the content directories to point to the correct folders (the one that holds the Runtime and Data folders - e.g. My Daz 3D Library if using the defaults) by right-click on Daz Studio Formatas and/or Poser Formats in the Content Library pane.


angreif ( ) posted Tue, 16 August 2022 at 11:41 AM

Took a look at the files I have transfered.

Currently -Documents/Daz3d studio

My Daz connect library 

My library

Render library

All seem present. My Daz is large and does not visible as your previous statement.

Think I have found on the tabs where to tell Daz to look for old directory.  Will try tonight hopefully.


RHaseltine ( ) posted Tue, 16 August 2022 at 2:38 PM

The database is in %appdata%/daz 3d/cms/contentcluster/ by default (the %appdata% bit expands to the location of your App/Data/Roaming/ folder).


angreif ( ) posted Wed, 24 August 2022 at 6:30 PM

First off Thank You Richard ! I have made some progress by wrapped my head around some aspects that may need to change.

I have reluctantly loaded Daz Central and reloaded some stuff. 

I have recovered some of my Content Library and some of it works and some not. Would like to get that honed in if possible.

Still have original daztime on other drive that could be moved again if there is a better way to do it.


RHaseltine ( ) posted Thu, 25 August 2022 at 11:02 AM

How about the database?

For Daz products, and soem products from other stores, you can reimport metadata - that will also catch any of your own metadata (recategorisations and your saved files) from before the last time you did an export userdata (if you did). The database on the old system will have everything that was, but it isn't possible to directly merge that with the dataabse on the current system so you risk losing metadata assigments either way with that.


angreif ( ) posted Mon, 29 August 2022 at 7:27 PM

Guess I learned more over the weekend.  I reloaded some stuff and added a couple new things and still nothing works completely. 

I for a long time have thought something in this daztime has caused my characters to be thicker and voluptuous than portrayed.  Know I bought characters at Rendo and Hub that intruded in part or whole on base G8. Dug these out but suspected there was more. 

So Richard where should I build my next Content Library?  

If I leave the old library will this conflict with the old?


RHaseltine ( ) posted Tue, 30 August 2022 at 9:07 AM

The location of your content directories is not significant, as long as you can access them. Yes, if one with "bad" files is still connected they will be read, unless the "good" version (if there is one) is earlier in the list of content directories. It does sound as if you have one or more morphs isntalled with a non-zero default - if you load the plain base figure and go to Edit>Preferences>Zereo>Zero Figure Shape does it change?


angreif ( ) posted Tue, 30 August 2022 at 10:13 AM

We certainly shall try tonight!




angreif ( ) posted Tue, 30 August 2022 at 7:41 PM

Not that I see .


RHaseltine ( ) posted Wed, 31 August 2022 at 9:34 AM

OK, so that doesn't sound like a rogue morph. Is therea  mesh offset proerpty for the figure in the Parameters pane, and if there is is it zero?


angreif ( ) posted Wed, 31 August 2022 at 12:10 PM

I will check tonight.


angreif ( ) posted Thu, 01 September 2022 at 8:39 AM

Unable to find mesh offset property. 



RHaseltine ( ) posted Thu, 01 September 2022 at 9:26 AM

OK, I don't know what could be causing this issue then. Sorry not to be more helpful.


angreif ( ) posted Thu, 01 September 2022 at 9:54 AM

Your always helpful. You explained a way to look for this problem and that's helpful. Sure beats the heck out of watching models load or going through all ones morphs looking for problems.

You just hang tight and be observant because after loading Daz Connect my detailed mind is adding questions to a growing list.


angreif ( ) posted Sat, 03 September 2022 at 11:13 AM

Guess I will consult the higher authority first.  If I eliminate the non smart stuff content will it effect the smart stuff from daz?


RHaseltine ( ) posted Sat, 03 September 2022 at 3:03 PM

I'm not sure what you mean - Smart Content is built from regular files with suitable metadata in the database.


angreif ( ) posted Sat, 03 September 2022 at 9:43 PM

Thanks. That's what I needed to know.


angreif ( ) posted Sun, 04 September 2022 at 8:02 AM

Well that was an Epic failure. While my Content Library is showing my reloaded stuff everything in smart content is now hosed.

Still have pretty thumbnails but nothing in smart content is working. Daz attempted a 5000+ meta update that failed.

I think I'm grounded due to my limited net connection but the Bull in the china shop will inquire.


angreif ( ) posted Sun, 04 September 2022 at 8:04 AM

Pretty sure something important to smart content was in Content Library .


angreif ( ) posted Sun, 04 September 2022 at 1:18 PM

What is Metadata besides being a quality of smart stuff.

What is the difference between Daz connect and daz central. My guess is they are independent of each other and connect is internal to daz and centtral is an external loader.


RHaseltine ( ) posted Sun, 04 September 2022 at 1:45 PM

The metadata is a description of the content, rather than the actual content itself - it says which categories and products the files are part of, what type of file they are, what they are compatible with. What is happening with the Smart Content pane, and are other containers that depend on the database OK - the presets tabsd in various property panes, Categories and products in the Content Library pane, and the type tags (Actor, materials etc. at top-right of a file's thumbnail) in the Daz Studio Formats tree?

Daz Central is a simplified interface for Install Manager, Daz Connect is the system for installing through Daz Studio itself (Install pane or Smart Content pane or Products in the Content Library pane)


angreif ( ) posted Sun, 04 September 2022 at 2:10 PM

Had a feeling meta was thumbnails and organization.  Currently meta update is 27% of some 5000 items.

What I did was delete the old content library and loaded a batch of files in its place. Smart files largely were wiped out. I am hoping the data is still there but unconnected.



angreif ( ) posted Mon, 05 September 2022 at 7:00 AM

Increased my data. Bound and determined to not blow my holiday Daz time.

Currently reinstalling content.

Content Library is showing and seems to load objects and such but morphs and such not found on loaded character . Database issues.

Daz Connect seems to be the better of the two choices.


RHaseltine ( ) posted Mon, 05 September 2022 at 9:32 AM

Not found and generating error messages or not found in that the sliders are not there?

Not that I want to send you on another sidetrack but the original Install Manager iss till avaiualble, it isn't a choice between Connect and Central only - there should be links on any product Library page for an item than can be installed through DIM.


angreif ( ) posted Mon, 05 September 2022 at 10:06 AM

Not found in the sliders. They don't show up UNLESS  I load a figure then sliders are there and work. Loading a figure and trying to swap a head does not find the head morph. Loading 3 characters 2 with working morphs the 3rd will not see the morphs on the other 2. Hope ya understood.

Yes I understood once explained. Both could be used except for drai on bandwidth.  Considered that. I seem to have more complications with central.  Connect combined with meta seems to offer a more organized form I can tolerate.


angreif ( ) posted Mon, 05 September 2022 at 10:19 AM

The odd thing to me anyway is when I go to reload smart stuff that was loaded before it still thinks it is loaded. (Meta update? )  When I  Uninstall it stays colored.  Won't let I install but it goes to pending.  Not a serious issue just thinking odd.


angreif ( ) posted Mon, 05 September 2022 at 10:30 AM

Clothing morphs seem to be missing 


angreif ( ) posted Mon, 05 September 2022 at 11:30 AM

Clothing morphs that do show do not seem to work.


RHaseltine ( ) posted Mon, 05 September 2022 at 3:09 PM

If you uninstall stuff that still shows as installed by another emthod then DS will still show it as installed (and will load it if the files are really there).

The only way I can possibly think of for morphs to load onto previously saved items but not new would be if the morphs were in a nested content directory on saving (e.g. My Daz 3D Library/Content/Data/etc. with both Content and My Daz 3D Library set as content directories) - the saved scene might then be including the inner folder in the paths (/content/data/etc.) and if the files were still there they would load, but a newly loaded item would not check the Content sub-directory and so would not see or load the morphs. But that is a fairly arcane set of circumstances.


angreif ( ) posted Mon, 05 September 2022 at 7:10 PM

I have not tried loading previous loaded stuff yet.  Old stuff still on other drive and when this problem developed I knew that was gone. Happened before with Daz 3 some years back.  I have a dozen or so characters that are new made on this system. Loading them has not been attempted yet due to lack of assets loaded. 

What I was saying before is if I load a character from content it loads true. It except morphs and modifications that are loaded FROM smart but loading something from content library does not see the morph even if another loaded character has the desired morph. Load Bob and Tom both load properly but I can not swap heads etc.


angreif ( ) posted Mon, 05 September 2022 at 7:17 PM

My problem was Microsoft changed file structure  between win 7 and 10. Otherwise I was planning to drop content file in the same file structure and hope it worked. I was not that savvy in Daz 3 days. Guess savy still has holes.


RHaseltine ( ) posted Tue, 06 September 2022 at 9:48 AM

So it's OK now?


angreif ( ) posted Tue, 06 September 2022 at 3:45 PM

No morphs still not recognized. Seems only when they come preloaded on objects.



RHaseltine ( ) posted Wed, 07 September 2022 at 9:01 AM

OK, I am still not following the difference. Could you give a specific example of soemthing that works and something that doesn't, using the same base figure?


angreif ( ) posted Wed, 07 September 2022 at 8:31 PM

This applies to Content Library only. Smart seems fine. Products show up in content library as the should. Hierarchy appears ok.

2 g8s-As follows

One loaded as a character, say Betty. loads fine morphs intact. Morphs register in parameters fine. Adding additional morphs contained in content library are not to be found. This includes optional morphs such as nipples included with Betty. Non functional.

Second loaded "base character" but when you try to load Betty morphs the Betty morphs do not show up in parameters at all. Nothing that should show does not register in parameters.

Clothing and hair - The object in question loads fine and with mats. Mats seem to load correctly.  Morph that should be in parameters are no present and pose morphs that are in content library are non functional. Wind hair poses , unbutton shirt do not work or fail to show in parameters.

I have not noticed any irregularity with character pose sets.

Recent discovery is gen mats are not working properly. I use a lot of Krash products and they contain a special gen uv. Surface does not register its existence. Know it loaded.

I have tried loading a couple saved characters compiled after loading Daz on this computer but before dumping my previous Daztime and while not perfect seem to load better than expected. Likely small items I have not reloaded yet missing but shape and most mats present.



RHaseltine ( ) posted Thu, 08 September 2022 at 9:40 AM

So is Betty a custom character of your own creation, with the morph not saved as a morph asset? If so it will be embedded in the preset file and will load if that is sued to create a new figure but not if it is used to modify an existing figure. That does sound as if the morphs are not correctly installed but the base figure is. Are textures loading?



angreif ( ) posted Thu, 08 September 2022 at 10:44 AM

No I am being generic and not bring vendor specific except where I have too. Betty is made up and can be any and all found in content lib from Rendo, Hub or Otic. All Apply to G8M as well.


angreif ( ) posted Thu, 08 September 2022 at 12:58 PM

Textures loading on characters does not seem a problem . Seem to load with characters or adding to a base one as they should. Changing hair mats has not been problematic. 

Other than the afore mentioned UV issue the big problem is morphs, hair and clothing morphs originating in content library. Exception is loading a vendor originating character (1st)  from Character category and that will load with shape and mat.  A blank base character (2) will not see the same morph just loaded with 1st character. I know the morphs are there since it loaded on 1st.


RHaseltine ( ) posted Thu, 08 September 2022 at 2:33 PM

Please load a base figure (try one with fewer morphs, to reduce the data generated) and then attach the log file to a post -

%appdata%/daz 3d/studio4/

if you are on Windows, or Help>Troubleshooting>View Log File and save it out to a location of your choice.


angreif ( ) posted Thu, 08 September 2022 at 7:33 PM

Not see a place to add files or attachments. do you want me to past it here?



angreif ( ) posted Fri, 09 September 2022 at 6:19 AM

g82022-09-09 07:10:47.771 *** Scene Cleared ***

2022-09-09 07:10:59.511 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6843): Could not find target property for formula: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Expressions/eCTRLRage_HD.dsf#eCTRLRage?value in file : /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Teen%20Josie%207/eJCMJosie7Rage.dsf

2022-09-09 07:10:59.572 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6843): Could not find target property for formula: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Expressions/eCTRLWink_HD.dsf#eCTRLWink?value in file : /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Mei%20Lin%208/eJCMMeiLin8_Wink_HDLv2.dsf

2022-09-09 07:10:59.629 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6843): Could not find target property for formula: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Expressions/eCTRLScream_HD.dsf#eCTRLScream?value in file : /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Mei%20Lin%208/eJCMMeiLin8_Scream_HDLv2.dsf

2022-09-09 07:10:59.643 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6843): Could not find target property for formula: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Expressions/eCTRLRage_HD.dsf#eCTRLRage?value in file : /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Mei%20Lin%208/eJCMMeiLin8_Rage_HDLv2.dsf

2022-09-09 07:10:59.662 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6843): Could not find target property for formula: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Expressions/eCTRLPain_HD.dsf#eCTRLPain?value in file : /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Mei%20Lin%208/eJCMMeiLin8_Pain_HDLv2.dsf

2022-09-09 07:10:59.717 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6843): Could not find target property for formula: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Expressions/eCTRLHappy_HD.dsf#eCTRLHappy?value in file : /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Mei%20Lin%208/eJCMMeiLin8_Happy_HDLv2.dsf

2022-09-09 07:10:59.736 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6843): Could not find target property for formula: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Expressions/eCTRLFear_HD.dsf#eCTRLFear?value in file : /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Mei%20Lin%208/eJCMMeiLin8_Fear_HDLv2.dsf

2022-09-09 07:10:59.753 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6843): Could not find target property for formula: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Expressions/eCTRLExcitement_HD.dsf#eCTRLExcitement?value in file : /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Mei%20Lin%208/eJCMMeiLin8_Excitement_HDLv2.dsf

2022-09-09 07:11:00.710 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6777): Could not find output property for formula: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Aiko%208/FHMAiko8.dsf#FHMAiko8?value in file : /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Aurora/FHMAurora.dsf

2022-09-09 07:11:00.757 WARNING: ..\..\..\..\..\src\sdksource\fileinput\dzassetdaz.cpp(6777): Could not find output property for formula: Genesis8Female:/data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/DAZ%203D/Aiko%208/FBMAiko8.dsf#FBMAiko8?value in file : /data/DAZ%203D/Genesis%208/Female/Morphs/Aurora/FBMAurora.dsf

2022-09-09 07:11:00.875 Begin Loading Character Addons...

2022-09-09 07:11:01.075 File loaded in 0 min 0.1 sec.

2022-09-09 07:11:01.076 Loaded file: genesis 8 female eyelashes.duf

2022-09-09 07:11:01.081 Loaded Morph Deltas in 0 min 0.0 sec.

2022-09-09 07:11:01.083 Loaded file: PHMEyelashesLengthUpper.dsf

2022-09-09 07:11:01.084 Loaded Morph Deltas in 0 min 0.0 sec.

2022-09-09 07:11:01.084 Loaded file: PHMEyelashesLengthLower.dsf

2022-09-09 07:11:01.085 Loaded Morph Deltas in 0 min 0.0 sec.

2022-09-09 07:11:01.085 Loaded file: PHMEyelashesCurl.dsf

2022-09-09 07:11:01.108 Loaded Morph Deltas in 0 min 0.0 sec.

2022-09-09 07:11:01.109 Loaded file: PHMEyelashesLengthUpper.dsf

2022-09-09 07:11:01.114 Loaded Morph Deltas in 0 min 0.0 sec.

2022-09-09 07:11:01.115 Loaded file: PHMEyelashesLengthLower.dsf

2022-09-09 07:11:01.120 Loaded Morph Deltas in 0 min 0.0 sec.

2022-09-09 07:11:01.120 Loaded file: PHMEyelashesCurl.dsf

2022-09-09 07:11:01.125 Loaded Morph Deltas in 0 min 0.0 sec.

2022-09-09 07:11:01.127 Loaded file: PHMEyelashesExpand.dsf

2022-09-09 07:11:01.243 File loaded in 0 min 0.0 sec.

2022-09-09 07:11:01.249 Loaded file: base mat eyelashes.duf

2022-09-09 07:11:01.252 Finished Loading Character Addons

2022-09-09 07:11:01.276 File loaded in 0 min 13.5 sec.

2022-09-09 07:11:01.277 Loaded file: genesis 8 basic female.duf

2022-09-09 07:11:02.411 Loaded image g8fbasetorsomapd_1002.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:02.421 Loaded image g8fbasetorsomapb_1002.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:02.509 Loaded image g8fbasetorsomaps_1002.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:02.509 Loaded image g8fbasetorsomaps_1002.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:02.866 Loaded image g8fbasefacemapb_1001.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:02.985 Loaded image g8fbasefacemapd_1001.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:03.073 Loaded image g8fbasefacemaps_1001.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:03.077 Loaded image g8fbasefacemaps_1001.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:03.169 Loaded image g8fbasemouthmapb_1005.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:03.171 Loaded image g8fbasemouthmapd_1005.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:03.522 Loaded image g8fbaselegsmapb_1003.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:03.531 Loaded image g8fbaselegsmapd_1003.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:03.651 Loaded image g8fbaselegsmaps_1003.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:03.725 Loaded image g8fbaselegsmaps_1003.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:03.982 Loaded image g8fbasearmsmapb_1004.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:04.072 Loaded image g8fbasearmsmapd_1004.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:04.190 Loaded image g8fbasearmsmaps_1004.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:04.253 Loaded image g8fbasearmsmaps_1004.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:04.285 Loaded image g8fbaseeyesb_1007.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:04.288 Loaded image g8fbaseeyes01_1007.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:04.374 Loaded image g8fbaseeyelashes_1006.jpg

2022-09-09 07:11:15.003 Loaded image fbmthin.png

2022-09-09 07:11:15.005 Loaded image fbmthin.png

2022-09-09 07:11:24.756 Loaded Morph Deltas in 0 min 0.0 sec.

2022-09-09 07:11:24.756 Loaded file: Body Thin.dsf

2022-09-09 07:11:40.120 Loaded Morph Deltas in 0 min 0.0 sec.

2022-09-09 07:11:40.120 Loaded file: Hip Thighs Size.dsf



angreif ( ) posted Fri, 09 September 2022 at 6:20 AM
Hope that helps.


RHaseltine ( ) posted Fri, 09 September 2022 at 9:19 AM

Is the Mei Lin 8 slider available and working? How about Josie 7 (I assume that is a conversion)?


angreif ( ) posted Fri, 09 September 2022 at 9:46 AM

Nope! Seems to be intruding. That is Base G8F with only Body Thin & Hip Thigh added since you said minimal morphs. This is straight from Smart category. 

Awaiting new march orders.


angreif ( ) posted Fri, 09 September 2022 at 11:35 AM

Mei lin and Josie were loaded separately.


RHaseltine ( ) posted Fri, 09 September 2022 at 1:43 PM

But do the sliders load and work? The log shows at least some of their files loading.


angreif ( ) posted Fri, 09 September 2022 at 1:50 PM · edited Fri, 09 September 2022 at 1:50 PM

Yes seem too.  Till this thought smart was fine but seems to be both categories..

Most definitely the thin and hip thigh.

As to josie and Mei. those do not show in parameters.

Think Josie and Mei also loading G8 male as well. 


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