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Subject: Figament's AI Corner


bakapo ( ) posted Mon, 12 December 2022 at 10:40 PM · edited Mon, 12 December 2022 at 10:41 PM

Byrdie, best wishes to you as you take care of your health. Hang in there.

these are wombo Old Christmas images.

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gillbrooks ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2022 at 7:31 AM

Trying the Xmas prompt now with Lichfield.  I notice that London gets Big Ben.  Any I've done to include "Lichfield" always puts in our cathederal hahaaaaa.

Byrdie - hope all goes well today - take care x

Gill

       


gillbrooks ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2022 at 7:50 AM · edited Tue, 13 December 2022 at 7:50 AM

Yep - all 4 have got the cathederal hahaaaaaaaaa!  Nice pix though

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Gill

       


gillbrooks ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2022 at 7:52 AM

Not too far off with it either - this is the real thing

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Gill

       


Lenord ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2022 at 8:25 AM · edited Tue, 13 December 2022 at 8:25 AM

Well today my sub to Midjourney should renew, just in time only got maybe 10 minutes of full tilt boogie left and relaxed mode is sloooow.



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RedPhantom ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2022 at 8:43 AM
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Lenord ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2022 at 9:22 AM · edited Tue, 13 December 2022 at 9:22 AM

Some random musings

Mumbojumbo without the hyphen

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some Gaming Computers


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Lenord ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2022 at 9:24 AM

I liked this one because it looks like It has Liquid cooling for the Processor and Ram both that would be cool


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Lenord ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2022 at 11:51 AM

Messin around using up the rest of my fast time trying to expound on the concept of rohl's aging Biker school bus driver and came up with this...not so good but made me laugh

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ladylake ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2022 at 11:57 AM

That one kid looks like he might be praying....can't say that I blame him.  This would be a frightening ride.  ;-)     This is a very funny image, Leonard.


Byrdie ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2022 at 12:55 PM

Hi, all! Back from clinic, took less time than they said. All should be good to go on Friday, hope they're right about everything else being fairly quick & simple with a short recovery time because it is minor and a common procedure. At least I'll be getting the good drugs. ;-)

Love the old Christmas towns. Those ancient buildings, towers & historic castles & churches are always wonderful to see be it in art or in person. 

AI art  & copyright quibbles, yeah I kinda had a feeling that might be an issue w/regard to contests. Official ones anyway. Guess we'll have to wait & see when/if it ever gets resolved. LOL! Shouldn't take more than a century or ten. ;-)


Darkglass ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2022 at 1:30 PM · edited Tue, 13 December 2022 at 1:30 PM

Combat Suit...definitely got a bit of...Edge of Tomorrow (also known as Live Die Repeat: even tho it it wasn't the prompt

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gillbrooks ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2022 at 1:45 PM

Byrdie posted at 12:55 PM Tue, 13 December 2022 - #4451654

Hi, all! Back from clinic, took less time than they said. All should be good to go on Friday, hope they're right about everything else being fairly quick & simple with a short recovery time because it is minor and a common procedure. At least I'll be getting the good drugs. ;-)

Love the old Christmas towns. Those ancient buildings, towers & historic castles & churches are always wonderful to see be it in art or in person. 

AI art  & copyright quibbles, yeah I kinda had a feeling that might be an issue w/regard to contests. Official ones anyway. Guess we'll have to wait & see when/if it ever gets resolved. LOL! Shouldn't take more than a century or ten. ;-)

Good to hear all is OK.  

Re the copyright thing, if you've ever seen Vladimir Chopine's (geekatplay) videos over on YouTube, most of that is balderdash anyway.  AI takes reference from images, does not copy or use them to create our images. 

Gill

       


Darkglass ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2022 at 2:10 PM · edited Tue, 13 December 2022 at 2:12 PM

All you need to do is a bit of research... as gill said...

How does an AI generate images?......simply put 

To generate images, the machine uses two neural networks. The first neural network is used to create the image based on the text input by the user. The second neural network analyzes the generated image with reference images. By comparing the photos, it creates a score to determine the accuracy of the generated image.

As to why, lets say someone ask the ai to render megan fox...it will never ever look like her, it will be a close approximation, if it was actually using images...why not just grab one...then it would be...

A never ending debt...



Byrdie ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2022 at 2:41 PM

Problem seems to be, though, that many people, both with and without claims to being experts, (a) do not understand that, (b) refuse to believe that, and/or (c) know exactly how it works but still scream blue murder because "how dare you look at my precious blah-blah-license-money-lawyers" etc. Permission culture often goes way too far, imho. Which is one of the many reasons we can't have nice things.

Oh, and let us not forget the mistaken belief that A.I. is the mythical "Make Art Button" beast that gives maximum return for minimum -- maybe even zero -- effort. Which as we who use it can testify it ain't necessarily so.


ladylake ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2022 at 2:55 PM · edited Tue, 13 December 2022 at 2:55 PM

Brydie:  glad things are going to go well.  Health stuff is always a worry.

Here are a couple of my old town Christmas image.  Couldn't get much until I threw in the name Thomas Kincaid.  :-)

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AI images no effort, huh?  Just hours and hours of changing words around or adding/edeleting them.  At least for me.  lol


Lenord ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2022 at 3:04 PM

Anyone else having problems with Mid-J the main is Gone...my server seems to be working ok but poof the main is gone. 


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Lenord ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2022 at 3:24 PM · edited Tue, 13 December 2022 at 3:24 PM

Yeah well my server is working fine got this for Nonsense "Gobbledygoop"

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but the Main Mid-J is down


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Byrdie ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2022 at 3:24 PM

Just opened Discord app now and the MidJourney server is missing from my list. Says it's a temporary outage but no idea how long temporary means.


Lenord ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2022 at 3:53 PM

I didn't notice the announcement of impending Downtime back to normal now. One good thing using my server no looking for your work that's all there is although the main is good for getting ideas.


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Lenord ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2022 at 4:21 PM · edited Tue, 13 December 2022 at 4:21 PM

Tommy the Cat gets mad

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Darkglass ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2022 at 4:31 PM · edited Tue, 13 December 2022 at 4:32 PM

Back to samurai again...getting closer, now i just have to combine my first attempts with this one...and see where that leaves me...

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bakapo ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2022 at 6:23 PM

I love the angry cats, Lenord

The samurai look good, darkglass

Here is a steampunk Christmas tree inside a steampunk toy factory.

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rhol_figament ( ) posted Tue, 13 December 2022 at 6:23 PM

Main Mid-J bot is also down for me still, but at least I can still play on my own server.  Lots of cool images!

As for the Xmas contest, you can all just post someting here if you want, owr own AI christmas.  Winner gets a high five and bragging rights, lol... ;)

Thoes bus driver images are some crazy sh*t Len...  :)


rhol_figament ( ) posted Wed, 14 December 2022 at 3:17 AM

Santa wants to get in on the action... ;)

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gillbrooks ( ) posted Wed, 14 December 2022 at 6:17 AM

Muppet fractal santas?  Priceless!!


Gill

       


Lenord ( ) posted Wed, 14 December 2022 at 9:52 AM · edited Wed, 14 December 2022 at 9:52 AM

Billy Gibbons eat yer heart out Santa has the Beard to admire

Did this nonsense "Nambypamby" got these

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Lenord ( ) posted Wed, 14 December 2022 at 10:48 AM

Use your own server...using your own server is the only way to go with Midjourney, didn't realize that until Mid-J went down for maintenance, the no looking for your project makes concentration easier. No distractions if you want ideas go to the main server and get them come back and try them, I'm such a damm dummy it took this long to figger that out. Response times for the bot to engage is faster even in relaxed mode...ya'll probably figured that out already me I'm just a damm dirty Biker what do I know slow on the uptake went to the BFFI school for Art (Brute Force and Freaking Ignorance) just get a bigger hammer.


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Kenmac ( ) posted Wed, 14 December 2022 at 11:08 AM · edited Wed, 14 December 2022 at 11:08 AM

Just thought I'd let you know that the Lexica website, which is a search engine for Stable Diffusion images, has developed their own AI which you can sign up for and use for free. Here's the website :https://z.lexica.art/  Click on the text that says "Aperture", you can then sign up using either your Google account or you can use your e-mail address. I've found that their AI seems to be more like DALL-E 2 and is more focused on photographic images but personally from playing around with it last night, I think it may be even better than DALL-E-2 in some ways. Here are a few images I did last night. 

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And I noticed Darkglass' comment about Megan Fox, here's one I did of her in a gold sequined dress:

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BTW the prompts I used for the other women involved the phrase, "with jewelry and watch", e.g. "blonde woman with.., brunette woman with..," etc. If you're more into photographic AI then you may want to check this out. 


Lenord ( ) posted Wed, 14 December 2022 at 12:32 PM · edited Wed, 14 December 2022 at 12:32 PM

something a little different this time

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ladylake ( ) posted Wed, 14 December 2022 at 1:45 PM

Are any of you following the comments under the gallery image "NO AI".  (Darkglass I saw your post there.  Well said.)   Boy, we are not liked.  This is really confusing to me that the way you create or the time spent is such an issue.  Is there not room for everyone?  One person said fractals and photos should not be allowed either.  :-(    Makes me sad.

Lyla


Byrdie ( ) posted Wed, 14 December 2022 at 2:01 PM

Did not know about this, must go take a look.


gillbrooks ( ) posted Wed, 14 December 2022 at 2:23 PM

I'm not biting.  Mainly becuase it's a boring "discussion" now.  Same old.  

Funny though, how someone can LITERALLY open a can of paint and throw it at a canvas and call that art.  My sketches aren't brilliant, but some of those I see on DA from folk having a pop at AI .... realy.  I've seen better from a 5 year old child, so why they should be worried about losing out I have no idea.

Plus, they think it's OK for them to say what they like about AI art and those who create it (and yes, we DO create it), but if we dare say anything about their awful output, we're in the wrong.   Can't win.....

Not saying any more now otherwise I may get into trouble ;)  

Gill

       


Byrdie ( ) posted Wed, 14 December 2022 at 2:51 PM · edited Wed, 14 December 2022 at 2:53 PM

I wonder ... if anyone started using MS Paint to draw bananas duct taped to walls would there be a "Stop Using MS Paint" campaign? Complete with tons of misinformation, disinformation and shall we say, less than complementary commentary on the skills, standards, ethics, morals, taste and maybe even the personal habits of anyone who dares use THAT COMPUTER PROGRAM to produce "art"? 

Not gonna comment further because really there ain't no point. :sigh: 


Lenord ( ) posted Wed, 14 December 2022 at 2:52 PM

I used to get in all kinds of trouble around here even while I was a Mod. Someone would say something about Fractals not being art and that would be it I'd tell them to go back to putting a new outfit on their electronic Barbie Dolls and shut the F up about a Genre they obviously know nothing about. I've mellowed since then now I don't shive a get that they're still stuck playing with Dolls...shut up and leave everyone else alone and they ain't going to chase me away with their disdain for using AI. Joke them joke them all...


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Lenord ( ) posted Wed, 14 December 2022 at 3:14 PM · edited Wed, 14 December 2022 at 3:14 PM

Had a couple thoughts on Nonsense ones, Keeping it "All in the Family" Meathead and Dingbat meathead I kinda get but dingbat is kinda nonsense...

Meathead

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Dingbat

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Byrdie ( ) posted Wed, 14 December 2022 at 3:15 PM

Always thought the playground was big enough for everyone, no matter what toys they preferred. Just be polite and if something ain't your cuppa then pass on it and find another to your liking 'cuz there's plenty to go around. Maybe I'm too old fashioned but that's the way I was raised. 


bakapo ( ) posted Wed, 14 December 2022 at 3:34 PM

in my opinion, art is art, however it is made. don't like it? don't look, comment, or buy. 

I think wombo agrees. :)

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Byrdie ( ) posted Wed, 14 December 2022 at 3:56 PM

Nuts! Cannot find button to edit last post. Apologies. I noticed the artist made no mention of which method they used to create their "No AI" piece. Does not look 3d or a photograph. Certainly not one of what they probably consider "Satan's apps". That leaves Photoshop or one of its many siblings. Can't be MS Paint because I don't think you can use clipart in it -- or at least I couldn't get it to do that back in the day on Windows 95. Just curious. I might like to try it out. ;-)


gillbrooks ( ) posted Wed, 14 December 2022 at 4:34 PM

So tempted to upload to gallery but can't be bothered and not in the mood for all the flakking snowflakes!

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Gill

       


rhol_figament ( ) posted Wed, 14 December 2022 at 4:41 PM

I should go back and try a few more nonsense renders with the word 'num-nuts', maybe a few of the no AI people might show up, snicker... ;)

Num-nuts - A slang term that is used to depict someone who is a constant source of trouble.  Usually an individual who screws up, or constantly makes mistakes, someone who botches a job, or situation.



rhol_figament ( ) posted Wed, 14 December 2022 at 4:43 PM

You read my mind Gill, lol...  :)



gillbrooks ( ) posted Wed, 14 December 2022 at 4:44 PM
rhol_figament posted at 4:41 PM Wed, 14 December 2022 - #4451741

I should go back and try a few more nonsense renders with the word 'num-nuts', maybe a few of the no AI people might show up, snicker... ;)

Num-nuts - A slang term that is used to depict someone who is a constant source of trouble.  Usually an individual who screws up, or constantly makes mistakes, someone who botches a job, or situation.

Not forgetting nomarks

Noun. no-mark (plural no-marks) (British, slang) An insignificant person; one who fails to make a mark.






Gill

       


Byrdie ( ) posted Wed, 14 December 2022 at 4:54 PM

How about "whinging no-mark num-nuts" as a prompt? That oughta cover it. Oh, and maybe make 'em banana colored and stuck to a wall? 

Yes, dear Santa, I am probably at the top of the Naughty List. But like the AI doggy said, it'll be absolutely worth it. ;-)


Byrdie ( ) posted Wed, 14 December 2022 at 5:15 PM · edited Wed, 14 December 2022 at 5:15 PM

Putting my AI where my mouth is ...

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Admittedly not very good. Might try Wombo. Prompt used: "whinging no-mark num-nuts, yellow, on wall with duct tape"


gillbrooks ( ) posted Wed, 14 December 2022 at 5:26 PM

This is what I got.  I think all Anit-AI Whingers should from this day be called "Neo Nints"

hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!

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Gill

       


Byrdie ( ) posted Wed, 14 December 2022 at 5:40 PM · edited Wed, 14 December 2022 at 5:40 PM

LOL! Here's my Wombo, with Steampunk style. 

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I tried other styles too -- but I think the steampunk is more accurate. Color choice is an homage to the infamous banana. ;-)


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Lenord ( ) posted Wed, 14 December 2022 at 6:33 PM · edited Wed, 14 December 2022 at 6:33 PM

I did Numbnuts on Midjourney and got Numbnuts is a Banned word so tried numKnuts and got

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Byrdie ( ) posted Wed, 14 December 2022 at 6:48 PM · edited Wed, 14 December 2022 at 6:48 PM

Looks yummy. I'll take a box of banana flavoured ones with a side order of duct tape to go. 


ladylake ( ) posted Wed, 14 December 2022 at 6:55 PM

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Here is my num-nut.  It says all I need to say about these people.  Prompt was the muppet one,  portrait num-nut no-mark whine yellow tape...and then all the descriptive words from it that I could cram into Wombo.    I tried using steampunk, got some really decent images that are too good to waste on num-nuts so will save for another time.  lol



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