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Subject: Carrara news


manleystanley ( ) posted Tue, 10 June 2014 at 2:31 PM · edited Mon, 29 June 2026 at 3:08 PM

Well here is your news. Much as I predicted; and that would make it 14 for 17 now, there wont be an update to C8.5. So none of us that bought C8.5 will be getting what we paid for. None of the bugs DAZ introed or features DAZ broke in the release are going to be fixed. Those fixes might possably be in C9. The only thing I have found out about C9 is the fixes to C8.5 might, MIGHT be in it.

Yes folks, DAZ is side stepping their responcability to fix C8.5 and for some delusional reason think people are going to buy C9. So now is the time to let your voice be heard contact DAZ at https://helpdaz.zendesk.com/requests/new and tell them what you think. A flood of "where is my fixes to C8.5" and "I haven't bought C8.5 because I am waiting on up dates" might make a difference. MIGHT.

 

Never has it looked so dark for carrara

Hear's my next prediction. {and I'm being optimistic} The C9 upgrade from C8.5 will be $150-$160 at it's lowest intro day one sale. Didn't get C8.5? Figure $250-$300.


Titanic401 ( ) posted Tue, 10 June 2014 at 2:42 PM

um... duh.


DustRider ( ) posted Tue, 10 June 2014 at 4:12 PM

????? Has there been an announcement or email about C9 today that I missed? I checked the forums (Commons and Carrara), and no announcement there.

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headwax. ( ) posted Tue, 10 June 2014 at 9:53 PM

Hi Stan, gott any links to this info, or are you having secret lisa-asions with miss Daz?


ProPose001 ( ) posted Wed, 11 June 2014 at 2:13 AM

All this time I've been holding my breath.........hmmm, bummer!!!!


manleystanley ( ) posted Wed, 11 June 2014 at 9:15 AM

Sorry, can't reavel my sorce, but with my record at 14 of 17, you might as well take my word for it

I was told the issues with C8.5 may be addesed in C9. I took that to mean there wouldn't be an update to C8.5.

Sure, I would love to be wrong, DAZ please prove me wrong.

Honestly if you bought C8.5 or were putting off buying C8.5 till it was patched, would you buy C9 if there was no patch/update to C8.5?


headwax. ( ) posted Wed, 11 June 2014 at 4:28 PM

Ha ha, I bought c8.5' never used it as it was all about genesis and nothing about helping me achieve a better workflow and better images, would I buy c9' don't think so, would I use c9 if I was given it? Can't really imagine why. I've saved a stack of money buy not buying all the stuff daz sells for genesis though I would love those new Vikings 


headwax. ( ) posted Wed, 11 June 2014 at 4:30 PM

Oh I never thought daz would fix the carrara bugs, they are not that kind of company, I would dearly love them to say why they won't fix them when it is there moral and commercial obligation to. Don't expect them to do that either. So I am not disappointed. Neither should you be /)


headwax. ( ) posted Wed, 11 June 2014 at 4:30 PM

Oh I never thought daz would fix the carrara bugs, they are not that kind of company, I would dearly love them to say why they won't fix them when it is there moral and commercial obligation to. Don't expect them to do that either. So I am not disappointed. Neither should you be /)


booksbydavid ( ) posted Wed, 11 June 2014 at 7:05 PM

So nice, headwax said it twice. :)

Agree. With Daz's current track record, never really expected them to fix 8.5. C9 is also late by Daz's own timetable. If it ever does come out, I'll be extra cautious. I'd love to see Daz bring out C9 and focus on something besides Genesis. Maybe focus on making needed improvements to Carrara instead. Doubt that will happen though. I'd love to be wrong about that, btw.


headwax. ( ) posted Wed, 11 June 2014 at 8:30 PM

Quote - So nice, headwax said it twice. :)

Agree. With Daz's current track record, never really expected them to fix 8.5. C9 is also late by Daz's own timetable. If it ever does come out, I'll be extra cautious. I'd love to see Daz bring out C9 and focus on something besides Genesis. Maybe focus on making needed improvements to Carrara instead. Doubt that will happen though. I'd love to be wrong about that, btw.

 

that will teach me for typing while thinking :)

it's funny in oz daz woud be taken to consumer affairs

 

http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/ftw/Consumers/Consumer_guarantees_warranties_and_refunds.page?

not that I would do do as  I am very happy with my old carrara and would rather have a slightly borked carrara than no carrara at all.......

 

it's like having no legs and suddenly getting two new wooden ones and finding out they don't go right but only go left - at least I can walk around in circles - it's better than having no legs at all

 

.... but  the splinters do get you down occasionally...


headwax. ( ) posted Wed, 11 June 2014 at 8:32 PM

specifically

 

http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/ftw/Consumers/Consumer_guarantees_warranties_and_refunds/Consumer_guarantees.page?

 

but i'm sure you have the same thing in The States?

still as I said rather have a carrara that works 90 percent, than no carrara at all


manleystanley ( ) posted Wed, 11 June 2014 at 11:17 PM

Genesis and autofit aren't the only new stuff in C8.5.  But DAZ is all about the content, so...

C8.5 not really supporting Genesis and especially G2F/M means I don't need to buy morphs for G2F or M, don't need to buy skins, clothes, hair, poses, acessories, aniblocks, and so on. Maybe I should thank DAZ for saving me all that money I would have spent; and being frugle I'd have kept the Pclub rather then dropping it.

DAZ's loss.

Thing is I really don't think there are enough of us carraraests left for DAZ to even notice the loss. DAZ has certainly made no acknowledgement of our existence.


booksbydavid ( ) posted Wed, 11 June 2014 at 11:21 PM

Quote - .... but  the splinters do get you down occasionally...

You lie down with lumber, you get up with splinters.

Where have you been lately. :)


booksbydavid ( ) posted Wed, 11 June 2014 at 11:26 PM

Quote - Thing is I really don't think there are enough of us carraraests left for DAZ to even notice the loss. DAZ has certainly made no acknowledgement of our existence.

I do agree that Daz probably doesn't think about us much, but I think there are more folks using Carrara than we might be aware of. Just looking at the new signups at Carrara Cafe makes me think that there are quite a few Carrara users out there. They don't say much, but they're there.

I do like Carrara (8.1) and I use it often. It's quick and easy and does an admirable job for me. I just bought DCG's Anything Grows and instantly Carrara had new life. I just don't like the direction that Daz is taking. I'd love to see a Carrara 9 that focused on Carrara itself and less on content. I like using content, but trying to shoehorn Genesis into Carrara doesn't seem to have made things better. Just my opinion.


headwax. ( ) posted Wed, 11 June 2014 at 11:45 PM

Hey David, oh I am on the home run of getting another illustrated book out there to do the rounds of publishers. So nose to the computer screen and doing some other fun renders when I am bored. My agent wants everything polsihed to the nth degree so I keep having to tweak and tweak and tweak and tweak and tweak and ... gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :)

 

On dollars - I do my tax once and year and have to go through the bank statements  and I know I have spent a stack with daz over the last few years - and hardly anything relatively since the genesis stuff became their focus - oh, well . At least I don't have to explain to my wife so much.

 

There must be a lot of carrarists like myself. That's a lot of money daz is missing out . But I guess they are making a lot more money off the studio crew.

It was a brilliant move making studio free.

And has saved me stacks :)


Titanic401 ( ) posted Thu, 12 June 2014 at 12:15 AM

This is seriously getting to be a Jerry Springer episode in here.

You guys are like the chicks that keep getting beaten, but are to ignorant to take the hint and leave.

Sad.


booksbydavid ( ) posted Thu, 12 June 2014 at 1:10 AM

Oh, I don't know. While we may not agree with how DAZ conducts business or how they've (in my opinion) mistreated Carrara, Carrara itself is a great piece of software.

Carrara is fast and easy to learn. It has the tools we need to do what we need it to do. Carrara has an array of plugins offered by third parties that extend its usefulness. And Carrara works well with other programs.

I use Poser, Silo and 3DCoat and Carrara integrates very well in that workflow. I've even done a water simulation in Blender and brought into Carrara with satisfying results. As a matter of fact, I'm learning that Carrara works best as the final step in the creation process. I recently completed a project that began as a model in Silo, was uvmapped and painted in 3DCoat and then moved to Carrara for some shader tweaks and additional work using Digital Carvers Guild's Anything Grows plugin. The project was rendered to very good effect in Carrara.

Headwax uses Carrara professionally (and very well, I might add). He's just as happy as I am with Carrara.

As diehard Carrara users we care about the software. Yes, it's only a tool, but it's a very useful tool that we are comfortable with and maybe a bit too attached to. It's like family and we all hate to see family mistreated. It's the lack of attention and care for our favorite software that bothers us.

Carrara itself handles anything we throw at it and then some. We love Carrara. It's the inlaws we have the problem with.


headwax. ( ) posted Thu, 12 June 2014 at 1:15 AM · edited Thu, 12 June 2014 at 1:17 AM

Quote - This is seriously getting to be a Jerry Springer episode in here.

You guys are like the chicks that keep getting beaten, but are to ignorant to take the hint and leave.

Sad.

 

Not sure what you meanTitanic401.

You mean that we should we be leaving this forum so we can stay informed at what Jerry Springer is doing?

Does that mean you admit to watching Jerry Springer and that you recommend it?

If so, thanks for that advice but I personally will pass on it, no offense.

 


headwax. ( ) posted Thu, 12 June 2014 at 1:20 AM

quote: As diehard Carrara users we care about the software. Yes, it's only a tool, but it's a very useful tool that we are comfortable with and maybe a bit too attached to. It's like family and we all hate to see family mistreated. It's the lack of attention and care for our favorite software that bothers us.

Carrara itself handles anything we throw at it and then some. We love Carrara. It's the inlaws we have the problem with.

Well said David, it makes my reply sound bitchy ;)*


booksbydavid ( ) posted Thu, 12 June 2014 at 1:23 AM

Quote - quote: As diehard Carrara users we care about the software. Yes, it's only a tool, but it's a very useful tool that we are comfortable with and maybe a bit too attached to. It's like family and we all hate to see family mistreated. It's the lack of attention and care for our favorite software that bothers us.

Carrara itself handles anything we throw at it and then some. We love Carrara. It's the inlaws we have the problem with.

Well said David, it makes my reply sound bitchy ;)*

Heh, heh. You know I set that up just to make you look bad. :)


headwax. ( ) posted Thu, 12 June 2014 at 1:28 AM · edited Thu, 12 June 2014 at 1:29 AM

Ha, I knew it.

Ha!

Trolls are easy to handle, you lead them down a garden path and they fall in a hole....

Pardon me, I'm off to google Jerry Springer.


manleystanley ( ) posted Thu, 12 June 2014 at 8:15 AM

The problem isn't carrara. Carrara preforms quite well and as has been said it's a great finishing app. I use Hex2 for all my modeling, I use studio for the content tools that aren't in carrara; and for the freatures DAZ borked in carrara for using genesis.

I just don't get why DAZ doesn't realize if they don't do a fix to C8.5 no one is going to trust they will fix the issues with C9, there for wont buy it. So yes, DAZ not fixing C8.5 is going to cost them C9 sales.

One of the problems; IMHO, is DAzatics. DAZ fan boys that are convinced DAZ does no wrong, and are convinced to that point they will make the most illogical arguments to suport DAZ's acticions. The sad part is most of them have convinced them selves that carrara is trash and Studio is far superior with out ever having used carrara or viewed a carrara gallery. It's called blind ignorance.

Now of coarse carrara isn't all bad, in fact most of the features in carrara work quite well. DAZ did do some tweaking of bullet so soft cloth draping is quite doable; really if you have C8.5 and haven't tried this you're missing out. The light icons; aside from the tube light not scaling in diameter with the length, are a boon when setting lights. Holly pointed out quite a few improvements to the animation tools. So yes C8.5 does have functional improvement.

But the push for C8.5 was genesis compatability. I spent a fair chunk O change on genesis morphes soon after genesis came out. During the C8.5beta I used geneis a lot, or should I say when ever the cloths fit let me. Since I got C8.5 and found the features DAZ borked in the release version, I've found Studio and Hex2.5{via the Studo bridge} invalueable tools for charcter prep. If DAZ fixed autofit and modeling triax weight mapped clothes in carrara, I'd still use studio for this because it is so much easier to send to Hex, fix issue/make morph, send to Studio, name, done.

Sorry, The Studio to Hex2 bridge is the way to work DAZ models. Studio to Hex means no domains to try to work across, carrara's modeling still works figures in domains. So in order to fix autofit breast tuck in carrara you will have to figure out how to work across 3 domains to do it. But that is moot because you can't create morphs of triax clothes to fix the issues.


Titanic401 ( ) posted Thu, 12 June 2014 at 9:13 AM

This proves what I said.

Yeah, I meant for all of you to go watch Jerry Springer, let's just say that's what I meant. You happy now?

 

For the rest of you who AREN'T as slow or cocky as this schmuck, take the hint and DITCH DAZ AND CARRARA before you waste another penny on it.

Carrara has become a money pit. DAZ has no interest in making C better or competitive in any way.

 

Quote - > Quote - This is seriously getting to be a Jerry Springer episode in here.

You guys are like the chicks that keep getting beaten, but are to ignorant to take the hint and leave.

Sad.

 

Not sure what you meanTitanic401.

You mean that we should we be leaving this forum so we can stay informed at what Jerry Springer is doing?

Does that mean you admit to watching Jerry Springer and that you recommend it?

If so, thanks for that advice but I personally will pass on it, no offense.

 


manleystanley ( ) posted Thu, 12 June 2014 at 9:57 AM · edited Thu, 12 June 2014 at 9:58 AM

You do relize your opinon has no value to anyone here, right?


Titanic401 ( ) posted Thu, 12 June 2014 at 11:15 AM

Quote - You do relize your opinon has no value to anyone here, right?

Suit yourself.

You're the one who started the crybaby rant about C users getting screwed by DAZ.

You must have endless amounts of money to throw down the toilet, otherwise quit whining because apparently you enjoy it.

Enjoy. Just remember the lube before you bend over for DAZ.


manleystanley ( ) posted Thu, 12 June 2014 at 12:00 PM

Ya that $45 I've spent on carrara in 3 years is really going to brake me.

But like any app I pay for I expect to get what has been advertised, genesis was the big new thing DAZ pushed about carrara, and even though it doesn't fall flat on it's face it stumbles and ends up on it's knees. I just want DAZ to assume the responcability of an applications developer and fix their apps.

The only way to do that is with a big, united community push. If enough people write in to DAZ's sales and sevice asking/demanding an update to C8.5, we might just get it; ya I doubt that too, but ya never know till you try. 


booksbydavid ( ) posted Thu, 12 June 2014 at 2:49 PM

And Titanic is angry about...what?


headwax. ( ) posted Thu, 12 June 2014 at 3:57 PM · edited Thu, 12 June 2014 at 3:59 PM

That in real life nobody loves him.

It's all right titanic (is that a freudian slip on your part? ) we love you.

Even if you do like Jerry Springer.....


headwax. ( ) posted Thu, 12 June 2014 at 4:13 PM

titanic I found this for you, to help you manage your feelings 

http://www.csulb.edu/~tstevens/b-anger.htm


booksbydavid ( ) posted Thu, 12 June 2014 at 10:35 PM


manleystanley ( ) posted Fri, 13 June 2014 at 9:43 AM · edited Fri, 13 June 2014 at 9:57 AM

I don't know what DAZ did to DUFs but none of the poses or mats I have bought from DAZ work in C8.5. 6 months or newer to the DAZ store.

Yes, I'm not going to update Studio for fear it will completely screw my work flow, as in bring it to a screeching halt.


manleystanley ( ) posted Sat, 14 June 2014 at 8:23 AM

Well apparently it's cheaper for DAZ to give refunds then fix carrara. That seems to be their sollution to the issues with carrara now.

I'm ready to give up on all this and move on. I am just so sick of having to deal with DAZ, DAZ's broken apps, and incompatably content.

Now about C9, I think I know why DAZ hasn't said anything, they farmed carrra out to another company and even DAZ doesn't know what's going on with it.

 

Wow, checked the carrara forum and it seems there is all of 5 peopel posting there that don't post here, and 2 of them are the biggest DAZatics in carraradome. I can understand why they wouldn't come here.


manleystanley ( ) posted Sat, 14 June 2014 at 2:26 PM

I'm out. You all have fun with this, but I am done. Thanks to Holly for convincing me to quit this.


booksbydavid ( ) posted Sat, 14 June 2014 at 4:34 PM

I'll miss you, man. Hope this doesn't mean you're giving up 3D all together. You've got some skills. Hate to see them do to waste.


Titanic401 ( ) posted Sun, 15 June 2014 at 11:35 AM

Well, at least one of you finally wised up.


booksbydavid ( ) posted Sun, 15 June 2014 at 12:27 PM

Quote - Well, at least one of you finally wised up.

And once again the misinformed comments on the misunderstood. Good day, Sunshine.


ArtistX ( ) posted Sun, 15 June 2014 at 2:34 PM

Quote - > Quote - Well, at least one of you finally wised up.

And once again the misinformed comments on the misunderstood. Good day, Sunshine.

 

Don't feed the troll :p


booksbydavid ( ) posted Sun, 15 June 2014 at 3:07 PM

Quote - > Quote - > Quote - Well, at least one of you finally wised up.

And once again the misinformed comments on the misunderstood. Good day, Sunshine.

 

Don't feed the troll :p

Yes, you're right. I got carried away. Sorry. :)


Titanic401 ( ) posted Sun, 15 June 2014 at 11:46 PM

Quote - > Quote - Well, at least one of you finally wised up.

And once again the misinformed comments on the misunderstood. Good day, Sunshine.

 

Wrong idiot.

I was a diehard user of C from the days of Ray Dream Studio, this difference I stopped paying for nothing after version 7.

Why don't you keep your mouth shut, you don't know anything about me.


manleystanley ( ) posted Mon, 16 June 2014 at 6:11 AM

Has nothing to do with carrara dufe. I'm in no mood for any feed back from the likes of you.


MarkBremmer ( ) posted Mon, 16 June 2014 at 9:44 AM

Titanic401, 

You are trolling. It is against the Renderosity Terms of Service. I've warned you in email but you aren't reading those apparently. 

Troll again and you'll be banned. 

Regards, 

Mark Bremmer
Carrara Forum Moderator 






Roygee ( ) posted Wed, 25 June 2014 at 12:28 AM

Hi guys :)

 

My first posting here - good to see the same old smiling faces - ManStan - I've missed you!

I also never fell for the C8.5 upgrade - not until Daz improves Carrara considerably in ways that have nothing to do with e-dolls!

Did you all know that G2 works better in Blender than it does in Carrara?  Use MCJ's plugin to transfer her from Studio and render with Cycles.

Those of you who have C8.5 can try something which i can't - transfer to Blender using MCJ's plugin, export as .fbx and open in Carrara.  This doesn't work in C8.1 because .fbx is borked, but should in C8.5.

My personal opinion is that Carrara has joined Hex and Bryce as abandonware.  Why would Daz spend time and money developing it when its only competitor in this price range is Blender and how do you compete against free.

Daz has fallen so far behind with Carrara that they could never catch up in a million years. Carrara's one advantage over Blender is ease of use and Blender is moving fast to eliminate that advantage.

With Studio, Daz has only to develop the core - want hair?  Buy the plugin, which is superior to Carrara dynamic hair.  Want terrain - buy the plugin,etc.,etc.

As I get to know Blender, my reasons for staying with Carrara are vanishing one by one!

Cheers:)

 


Titanic401 ( ) posted Wed, 25 June 2014 at 9:49 AM

Quote - Hi guys :)

 

My first posting here - good to see the same old smiling faces - ManStan - I've missed you!

I also never fell for the C8.5 upgrade - not until Daz improves Carrara considerably in ways that have nothing to do with e-dolls!

Did you all know that G2 works better in Blender than it does in Carrara?  Use MCJ's plugin to transfer her from Studio and render with Cycles.

Those of you who have C8.5 can try something which i can't - transfer to Blender using MCJ's plugin, export as .fbx and open in Carrara.  This doesn't work in C8.1 because .fbx is borked, but should in C8.5.

My personal opinion is that Carrara has joined Hex and Bryce as abandonware.  Why would Daz spend time and money developing it when its only competitor in this price range is Blender and how do you compete against free.

Daz has fallen so far behind with Carrara that they could never catch up in a million years. Carrara's one advantage over Blender is ease of use and Blender is moving fast to eliminate that advantage.

With Studio, Daz has only to develop the core - want hair?  Buy the plugin, which is superior to Carrara dynamic hair.  Want terrain - buy the plugin,etc.,etc.

As I get to know Blender, my reasons for staying with Carrara are vanishing one by one!

Cheers:)

 

 

Save your breath...


manleystanley ( ) posted Wed, 25 June 2014 at 10:09 AM · edited Wed, 25 June 2014 at 10:10 AM

Ay Roygee, I miss you all on the DAZ forum as well. But I am not going to make promises that are not in my nature to keep. And reading some of dartanbecks posts I couldn't stop myself from answering them in such a way I'd get banned again. I guess blinders and rose colored glass are the expected apparel to be on the DAZ forum lol

Seriously I read some of his posts and the terms delusional and denial come to mind lol

More on topic. I have quite a bit on my wish list for G2F/M; $80, but I wont spend a penny on any of it till G2F/M work as well as the mil4 figures in carrara.

I also have quite a few pose sets on there; $28 and most are $1.99 Pclub lol But again, not spending a dime on them because at the moment, no new genesis, G2F/M poses work in carrara.

 

Titanic401 do you realize your opinin is of no importence to any one save yourself?


booksbydavid ( ) posted Wed, 25 June 2014 at 10:10 AM

Quote - Hi guys :)

 

My first posting here - good to see the same old smiling faces - ManStan - I've missed you!

I also never fell for the C8.5 upgrade - not until Daz improves Carrara considerably in ways that have nothing to do with e-dolls!

Did you all know that G2 works better in Blender than it does in Carrara?  Use MCJ's plugin to transfer her from Studio and render with Cycles.

Those of you who have C8.5 can try something which i can't - transfer to Blender using MCJ's plugin, export as .fbx and open in Carrara.  This doesn't work in C8.1 because .fbx is borked, but should in C8.5.

My personal opinion is that Carrara has joined Hex and Bryce as abandonware.  Why would Daz spend time and money developing it when its only competitor in this price range is Blender and how do you compete against free.

Daz has fallen so far behind with Carrara that they could never catch up in a million years. Carrara's one advantage over Blender is ease of use and Blender is moving fast to eliminate that advantage.

With Studio, Daz has only to develop the core - want hair?  Buy the plugin, which is superior to Carrara dynamic hair.  Want terrain - buy the plugin,etc.,etc.

As I get to know Blender, my reasons for staying with Carrara are vanishing one by one!

Cheers:)

 

Hey, Roygee!

I've played around a bit in Blender recently. Got a pretty nice fluid sim from it. Carrara still has it beat for ease of use.

You're probably right about DAZ and Carrara. But like Bryce and Hexagon, Carrara works pretty well as it is. If DAZ never does a thing more with Carrara it still works. Sure, Carrara may be behind other 3D software packages, but not everybody needs the latest bells and whistles. Carrara does what I need it to do and with added 3rd party plugins, Carrara can do a lot more.

I've recently aqcuired 3dCoat. It's a great addition to my toolbox and works pretty well with Carrara. As I mentioned, I'm also toying with Blender. I'm going to paint myself into a corner with Carrara, but until it stops working entirely, it is my main app for image creation.

Whatever DAZ decides to do, I'm still going to use Carrara. It's not broken, it works just fine for what I do and it's fast and easy to use. I may criticize the latest version, but you can go to any 3D software focused forum and find that.


headwax. ( ) posted Thu, 26 June 2014 at 8:21 AM

Hey Roygee, ! Come and give us some blender lessons when you get time :)

carrara 8.1 is still doing the job for me, as David says, 

daz is just doing it self out of my money by not being honest , that's their loss not mine


headwax. ( ) posted Thu, 26 June 2014 at 8:22 AM · edited Thu, 26 June 2014 at 8:24 AM

Don't worry

 about titanic , they are going down with the ship...


manleystanley ( ) posted Thu, 26 June 2014 at 8:44 AM

I find this amusing. I bought C8.5 almost 6 months after it came out, now the issues it was released with are coming to light... months after I was griping about them.

http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewthread/42672/

Could some one please explain that DAZ is not going to fix C8.5 regardless of how urgent it needs fixing. I've already been told that DAZ hopes to have these issues fixed in C9. So if you want C8.5 to function as advertised you will have to buy C9 to get those fixes{maybe}; when or if it ever comes out.

You can file a ticket, I did, wont solve anything, I can practically gaurenty their responce will be the same as the one I got.

Now if someone want's to PM everyone on the DAZ forum and point them here that might help. It's a fact that much of this just can't be discussed ont he DAZ forum. Much like pointing people to here in the forum will just get your post pulled.

But I am of the opinon if everyone demanded their money back or C8.5 be fixed, DAZ would drop carrara like the dirty end of the stick they keep handing us.


MarkBremmer ( ) posted Thu, 26 June 2014 at 4:38 PM

Hey folks. I've gotten after Titanic401 for trolling. No need to be reciprocal. 

This thread is done. 

Mark






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