So nice, headwax said it twice. :)

Agree. With Daz's current track record, never really expected them to fix 8.5. C9 is also late by Daz's own timetable. If it ever does come out, I'll be extra cautious. I'd love to see Daz bring out C9 and focus on something besides Genesis. Maybe focus on making needed improvements to Carrara instead. Doubt that will happen though. I'd love to be wrong about that, btw.