Ya that $45 I've spent on carrara in 3 years is really going to brake me.

But like any app I pay for I expect to get what has been advertised, genesis was the big new thing DAZ pushed about carrara, and even though it doesn't fall flat on it's face it stumbles and ends up on it's knees. I just want DAZ to assume the responcability of an applications developer and fix their apps.

The only way to do that is with a big, united community push. If enough people write in to DAZ's sales and sevice asking/demanding an update to C8.5, we might just get it; ya I doubt that too, but ya never know till you try.