hello guys and girls...

I just wondering if any of you have a little knowledge about the Coking creative system? I did googled it, did not get the answer so don't send me there...

Okay I get to the point. I have a canon 400d camera with a a 10-22mm wide angle lens. I like to buy the creative system so I can fiddle with my landscape on site instead of in cs3 :(.

I have to make a decision between P type and Z-pro. 'According to the legend' both is suitable for my gear. This is strange for me because a big price different so one of them has to be better or more suitable. But which one? I am thinking possible the z-pro will give me less vignette?

Any thoughts? pls

thx Tunde

I do not have experience with those programs , but I trust someone will be able to help you.

I've just bought coken filter holders and a couple of filters, but I'm having problems finding Coken filters. Chicking around one local retailer in Dallas told me that Coken was in bankruptcy and there order has been on backorder for a while. I found and bought the P mount and like it very much, but with the 10-22 you will have the cut the holder back or the lens will find the edge of the holder so I bought two mounts so I could cut one to work with my wide angle lens. The Z pro is reversable so it's not a problem with any lens. The P mounts are a lot cheaper than the Z Pro if you can find them. The good thing is other companies make filters that will fit the coken mounts, but they are pricer than the coken.

Frankly with the exception of ND filters I cant really see why you would need to use filters in digital photography when you can choose to do virtually anything in either the RAW file or in photoshop itself. if you do it im camera thats it...if you do it in photoshop you leave everything open to choices...and save money...and dont get home and find out you left you favourite filter miles away at the last shoot.  Just an opinion...we are all different in our preferences.

@Royce thx to respond

@ejn...honestly I will use the ND filter a lot. Those slow moving water still fascinates me and like to try it out, not to mention no more over exposed sky.  I am so hopeless in sc3 better get it in a camera or close to it, even I capture in raw I have difficulty to make a decent shot. This is just me...:((

Thx the input guys...seeyus

Hi babuci
No need to be useless....lots of it is so easy....you just need to konw how....what would you like to know.

I have a basic set of Lee filters.  Yes, these are pricy and are glass.   The reason I got the sheet filters and holder is because I wanted it....I could not purchase these today. I use these filters only occassionally but if you need a filter to fit every lens you own, this is a good way to go.   Adapter rings for the different diameter lenses make using the filters easy to use on any of my lenses.   I really don't want to go out and purchase a polarizer filter for each lens.  With this kit, the one will do quite well for all.

As for being limited to in-camera capture, I simply shoot with the filter and without as desired, having shots of each to work with.  More often than not, the filter shot is preferred when I view both in Lightroom.

Agreed much can be easily done in photoshop once you learn how but I have yet to see a "natural" appearing faked polarizer.

Considering the cost of the Lee filters, if I did not have my small selection already I would be using one particular lens and a couple of screw on filters including polarizer.  I do that already for for "on the road" speed and convenience, following up with software editing.

Tunde, sorry I cannot comment much on the Cokin system or availability since I don't have that one.          

Tom.

I have some of the filters..They work quite well..

Tunde,

Cokin also has a separate P-size filter holder for wide angle use. It's about six mm shallower than the normal holder. Downside is that it only fits one rectangular filter instead of the three possible filters for a normal filter holder. The slot for the circular (polarizer) filter is also there on both filter holders.

I have both holders for my dSLR camera.

Z-Pro and X-Pro filters can be used for dSLR, but they're mostly used for medium and large format cameras and for video work...

Thx guys the respond. Still not decided but I am leaning towards a P series wide angle. As Geert said only can use 1 filter at the time but I am not that experimental to use more at the moment.

My main worry is I got advised from the camera shop to use the Z-pro series and honestly I don't see why the P series not suitable for my canon 400. According to the guy in the shop. :(

Such a big price different...grrr and I might don't need the Z-pro.

thx  seeyus  T

Tunde, from reading sales info, the P series has adapters for up to an 82mm lens. Seems to me you just need to be certain there are adapters for the holder for the lenses you want to use.

Thx Tom. Yes the P series comes in 77mm what I will use on my new Canon 10-22mm wide angle lens.

You guys said enough good oppinion about it so might just well order it...I have 20 days practice before I go to my holiday where I want to use it. No other way to capture the Milford sound in New Zealand then with the wide angle...and some smooth ND filter:)))))

Thx again...seeyus  T

Wow...I want to see those photo if you are happy with them.  Just from the Internet and folks telling me about NZ, that should be a wonderful part of a trip.  You still have some good distance to NZ.   When you go, think of us who may not get to make the trip anytime at all.  Best wishes and joy on the travels.  First, joy on the coming Hoiday Christmas and other seasonal events for others..then joy on the trip with your new filter system.         Tom.

Thx you Tom. I am sure will have a great holiday break over there. I will share a few picture of course, some has to come out good and gallery worthy...lol.

seeya  T

I bought a Cokin Grad filter and I am very pleased with the results. I did find a problem with using the 10-20 mm wide angle when the filter was in the holder and actually showed in the frame. Simple solution, I hold the filter by hand over the lens, very very easy when using a tripod and with practice easy to use without a tripod.And saves me time when using two cameras.

Sames me time messing around on the PC afterwards.

Garlor...now I visualize all this happening as you lean out the door of a low flying airplane!

Tom, if i could I would !  I have had the filter with me on a few flights but seem to forget to try it out, I will put it on the spare camera and have an experiment. But hand holding will be just a bit outside the possible. 

EJN said 'if you do it in photoshop you leave everything open to choices'. I use filters and PS. Why. Well one example is if you blow out your skys/whites by not using a filter, no amount of PS is going to get that detail back.

Just a thought!

Your "just a thought" is worth it.

Thx guys the recent feed back. You guys belive it or not I still don't have the filters in my hand. I ordered the system 1st of december ( for my chrissy preso) I got the adapter ring that is all. The rest still coming somewhere.

But sure when I will have them I will apply all the advises even the photoshop one. :) Actually untill I have a set I do just that. :)

thx seeyus T