anybody know how to model a human in amapi6.1

http://forums.polyloop.net/amapi-tutorials/5087-amapi-2-7-5-fairy-head-speed-modeling.html

Brian

6.1 is more difficult to model in than the later version that bwtr linked to.  If you can get your hands on old Carrara Pro 4 box, it came with a free copy of Amapi Designer 7.  The UK reports that Hexagon 1.2 will be free soon in 3D World Magazine again.  It's great for modeling people.

Thanks Shawn

I bought the "low priced" access to Amapi 7.52 in the expectation of Amapi 8!

-----that was NOT a good decission!
(Very jealous of the beta testers who retaiined Amapi8!)
Brian

Quote - I bought the "low priced" access to Amapi 7.52 in the expectation of Amapi 8! -----that was NOT a good decission!

You're right.  It wasn't.  You were only supposed to get the free 6.1 to buy the 7.52 for cheap.  And then stop there.  Actually, 7.51 was a better version.  Anyway, the Amapi programmers chose their destiny.  I don't think there are too many software companies like them left anymore, thank goodness.

Shawn

It was not the fault of the Amapi programmers (Eovia Europe(France)), rather that it was bought into the Japanese group (I have forgoten the name of there 3D App!--I AM getting old!) that have not wanted to continue with it.

Brian

That was a great video. I was just about to buy 6.1 until I see you guys was talking about Carrara Pro 4 box. Ill have to look that up.

 This is an interesting thread.  I only recently came upon Amapi and was considering trying out the demo.  The cost is high, so I though I'd better demo it first.  So, what's the problem with 7.52 (and later versions) over 7.51 and below?

Just curious.

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Brian

Amapi is dead. Forget about it.

If you REALLY want to work with WOW new apps these are, I think, by far the best about.
AND, at very low cost to purchase. (MoI is a Nurbs app like Amapi)

http://moi3d.com/index.htm

http://www.3d-coat.com/

However, even so, Blender 2.5 (FREE) is due very soon and THAT could be the ants pants of value for money of all the apps.

Brian

Buy Rhino3D instead of Amapi Pro.  Same price or there abouts.

Amapi Pro 7.52 had a bug with one of the new NURBS modes the programmers introduced.  G2 still was not supported like it is in Rhino.  Rhino has plugins for it as well.

hey guys. i just picked up cinema 4d 9. I find it better than Eovia's Amapi. Its a headache to learn. have anybody Used this before. any pointer?

You can not compare Amapi and C4D.
Amapi is a modelling app and C4D is a more all round 3D app.(Note that C4D is an excellent 3D app but that, in i'ts basic form , is far, far less "all round" that the Carrara Pro app.)

Brian

I've got $10,000 to spend on something.  Now I can afford something high-end to buy.  But I already have modo.  Cinema 4D, Maya, Max, Lightwave, SoftImage don't excite me.  I'm waiting to see what Rhino 5.0 is all about.

And, the thought for today!

If you are starting out in 3D the ONLY way to start is with FREE Blender!

Brian

I say start with Hexagon 1.21 or Silo 2.11 for modeling.  Then go to ZBrush 3.1.  Then go to modo or Lightwave.  This is for artists interested in organics will some mechanics.

python does not work on my computer (vista)? I'm a little primitive at editing though. Silo is an awsome modeling program. so buying C4D was bad aye?

Nothing wrong with C4D that I know of.

tried out silo. its a little intimidating at first but its worth a buy. next wee i plan on getting silo. Zbrush is really interesting ;) C4D loads my previous files for some reason. that's a flaw.

Problem with Silo is that it is lacking in training resources.  It is great if you already worked in another modeling app. like Hexagon or Modo.  If your starting out clueless then Silo would be a huge nightmare.

Apparently you can still buy it form Smith Micro...Amapi Pro 7.5

http://my.smithmicro.com/win/amapipro/index.html

Quote - If you can get your hands on old Carrara Pro 4 box, it came with a free copy of Amapi Designer 7.

I have Poser 4.  Did it come on its own cd or was it on the Poser cd in an extras folder or something like that?

I have to agree that the price SM is asking is crazy considering its a dead program.

Carrara Pro 4 came with three discs.  Carrara Pro 4, contents CD, and Amapi Designer 7.16.

Oh, its Carrara Pro 4 not Poser 4.  I think I only have Carrara 3 and 6...oh well.

Carrara 3 came with a trial version of Amapi.  I don't know what Carrara 6 came with.

Was it a separate cd?

Carrara Studio 3 was two discs.  One was the install disc that also had Amapi 5 and Viewpoint plugin on it.  The other was the content disc.  I thought the Amapi was a trial version with Carrara Studio 3?  But people on their web sites haven't mentioned that fact.  I'll have to look at the discs.  I would have been using Amapi years sooner if it was the full version back then.  I had to buy Amapi after I decided to model in it for the first time.  And that was version 7.  5 and 6 were only trials that I had on disc.

I guess its a dead issue now.

In the past, Amapi Pro 7.5 was offered cheap ($249) to existing customers of other software like Poser from the same company.  It couldn't hurt to call SM and ask them about it if you have Poser 7 or some other program already from them.

I'm guessing they'll bundle Amapi Pro 7.5 with Poser Pro 2 or similar.  Depends on what other software SM buys from some other company.

 You know, I just had to pop in here and say that Amapi 7.5.1 still has some features that c4d r11 and modo 401 don't have yet for modeling. Amazing. Hexagon blows up on my system now which is too bad because it was a great modeler. 

Well, back to Amapi I go for making viruses. 

Any word on why SM decided to drop it?

My understanding is that Smith MIcro is just a reseller.

"Thank you for your support and interest in the Amapi product line. Due to the recent changes at e frontier, there currently is no fixed plan for the Amapi product line. e frontier will, at some time in the future, re-examine the Amapi product line. At this time all development of Amapi is on hold. All queries and comments concerning Amapi should be directed to

graph-support@e-frontier.co.jp

We can not guarantee individual responses at this time, but your input is important to us.

Again, thank you for your support.

I guess it's not dead...just in suspended animation, lol.

I see...right now they are very busy trying to bring Shade back.  They did the same thing with it but now I guess they figure their market is saturated and the only new growth potential lies in the English market.

The problem is that when you walk away from a product not too many people are going to take the chance that you won't decide to do it again.  You would think e-Frontier would first attempt to grab the previous Shade owners, but no, they said they can buy a magazine like everyone else and get the 8.5 release or they can upgrade directly with the same price given to those who weren't previous Shade owners and bought the magazine.  Either way their is a new 9 version out and a 10 on the way.  Not sure if this will be the last release again but I am betting on it.  Perhaps after this failed attempt they will concentrate on Amapi Pro?

Amapi Pro has a much better GUI than Shade.  Shade's current GUI reminds me of Ray Dream Designer's from 1995, but worse.  I don't care about how great Shade renders after you throw more money at it.  As a modeler, Shade has been cultivated in a cramped Japanese mindset and has not reached its user-friendly software stage yet that most American software developers crossed in the mid 1980's.