Attached Link: Don't get excited - CL has a new blurb about Mac Poser 5

To save you a trip, here's what their page says: "We are working on and plan to release a Macintosh version of Poser 5 in the future. Apple has introduced entirely new engineering standards, which we need to support, but require a larger workload and a longer release cycle compared to previous versions of Poser for Mac. We hope you understand and thank you for your patience. We will be announcing details on system requirements, pricing and dates when we have more solid information. Thank you for your interest in Curious Labs products!" I wonder if the Daz Studio or P5 will make it out first?

I think Daz will be first. It seems like Apple is making things worse for developers, becoming more Draconian and arrogant every time there's a news release about Apple policy, so I don't see any hope for the anti-Apple mood to lighten up at Curious Labs.

Other posts here by actual Mac programmers say otherwise. The gist of the hint I was given is that the disk-level hacks CL uses for software protection in P5 are unsupported by Apple, Apple refuses to support disk hacking (bad boot blocks, etc.) in OSX and was very clear on this point to developers, Apple offered viable substitute protection plans and CL isn't interested in those alternatives. In short (according to these suppositions) CL isn't telling the complete truth about porting to OSX. Don't be quick to blame Apple.

"The gist of the hint I was given is that the disk-level hacks CL uses for software protection in P5 are unsupported by Apple" This is completely untrue. CL does not use "disk-level hacks" for p5 protection, and I've been in contact with the CL team about macintosh. The reason it's delayed is the exact reason stated on their site. OSX has introduced a number of engineering, and standards changes which are hard to learn, and support. "Apple offered viable substitute protection plans and CL isn't interested in those alternatives." Har, I know it's fashionable to spread misinformation, but Apple hasn't been in contact with CL over protection plans at all. where did you find this stuff?

I stand corrected; I won't embarrass the source of our mutual speculations. Godspeed to the CL crew on the MacOS port and I'll keep my mouth shut until it's released.

So which version will the Mac people get? Poser 5.0, with all of its bugs (like us PC people) or Poser 5.12.3.2. SR 6.89 release 5.765, which is mostly patched? And will the Mac people have to keep up with the weekly releases of service packs?

The fixes that you are seeing are actual fixes to the code base, which means these problems that are fixed will remain fixed in the mac version! :)

Actually its not Apples "arrogance" thats holding up poser 5 for the mac. its a lack of financial ability by some developers to let go of the the past (old legacy code from Kai/metacreations) no hardware acceleration etc. And Apple does give "special help" to programmers that are writing OSX versions of higher end 3d apps that APPLE wants to see running on APPLE hardware in the hallowed halls of ILM (industrial light and magic )and other film effects houses. that is why we see Stable OSX versions Of Lightwave3D 7.5, MAYA 4.5 even Cinema4dxl. and discreet, combustion2 and Shake ,all for OSX and delivered at the same time as their PC counter parts. and its virtually inevitable that we will see a MAC OSX version of 3D studio MAX. and maybe even Softimage 3D someday ;-). Poser is a neat character program but it will never get the full support of the pro community until it embraces MODERN OS interface standards and hardware acceleration. Apple has deserted the graphic design/prepress market in favor of the $$lucrative$$ hollywood 3D/Cg Film effects market. and really has no time for software companies who want to remain in the 1990's. DAZ on the other hand has obviously embraced apples vision of the future by writing a modern program with modern standards for a modern MAC OS ,,,OSX. GO DAZ !!!!!