Well I just checked the mail and opened issue 55 of 3D World....and there's a Limited Edition of Vue 3. PC only. seems it's only limitation is a maximum render size of 1024X768. Guess I have no excuse not to try it. Anybody ever use it before?

a number of people here have. it's a balanced piece of software. bryce is ultimately better, but you can still come out with some incredible renders in vue. drac

Yeah, I won Vue 4 in a drawing. Vue is neat, but I like Bryce. It's all about workflow and the gui for me. I fly in Bryce, but in Vue I'm swimming in honey with my arms and legs shackled. :o/ The true Vue users can do some way cool work though. Apples and Oranges. AgentSmith

I got Vue 2 that way, but for some strange reason, it doesn't work in Win 2k (tech support says 'buy vue 4'..:| Wonder what the limitations are (no saves, no exports, watermarks? ) let me know, I may want to add that to the current stable..;) I don't see 1024x768 as a limitation..;)

I won Vue 4 in a contest and same as AS, I can't find my way around in Vue, but Vue users say the same about Bryce :-)

I am comfortable with the Vue interface. I vastly prefer Vue atmospherics and vegetation, but I like the Bryce terrain editor, lights, and material editor more.

I'm primarily a Vue user mainly for the atmosphere and materials editors the latter being very powerful. However, having used Bryce since it first came out I can't quite wean myself off it and use it occasionally for the "sharper" images it creates. Speaking subjectively, I reckon Vue renders a single image quicker than Bryce when using one PC. However, Vue has problems with OpenGL on some graphics cards. Swings and roundabouts. You're onto a winner with either program. Ultimately it's a matter of personal taste.

Hah! Go for the dark side like Rochr and I! (grin)

dangit, Stephen Ray, ya got me into a B&N, natch they don't have it yet (it came out in the UK only last week), and a Terry Pratchett, a Spider Robinson and 2 Harry Turtledoves later, my wallet is empty..;) grrrr...;)

Any one see the current issue in the States yet? I've been to my B & N three times this week, still they only have issue 54....and it's August 3rd! and I spend money every time I go in there!

Vue on issue 55, I'm in US but I subscribe to 3D World, I usually get the current issue, 2 &half to 3 weeks before it's in B&N.

Thanks,Stephen So, realistically probably not in B & N 'til around August 13 (my birthday) I'll probably subscribe eventually - there seems a lot of worthwhile content as well as good stuff on the coverdisc