OK, now DAZ is running a special where you can get the new Carrara 8.5 for $89.95 and they're giving you a free quarterly Platinum Club membership to go with it. So, now you don't have to pay the $24 and change to join the platinum club so you can get 8.5 for 87.

So, if I was one of those folks who joined the platinum club for 25 so I could get the 8.5 update for 87 I'd be asking for some money back about now.

I wonder if I wait long enough DAZ will give me Carrara 8.5 for free if I join the platinum club for 25 bucks?

As I said, my price point is $50.

Quote - OK, now DAZ is running a special where you can get the new Carrara 8.5 for $89.95 and they're giving you a free quarterly Platinum Club membership to go with it. So, now you don't have to pay the $24 and change to join the platinum club so you can get 8.5 for 87.

So, if I was one of those folks who joined the platinum club for 25 so I could get the 8.5 update for 87 I'd be asking for some money back about now.

I wonder if I wait long enough DAZ will give me Carrara 8.5 for free if I join the platinum club for 25 bucks?

amazing, you think Daz would know better, it;s like I bought stuff in the pa sale for 30 percent off then a weel later it's all 50 percent off, pity I'm too lazt to ask for a refund but what kinda brains thought that up?

Quote - OK, now DAZ is running a special where you can get the new Carrara 8.5 for $89.95 and they're giving you a free quarterly Platinum Club membership to go with it. So, now you don't have to pay the $24 and change to join the platinum club so you can get 8.5 for 87.

So, if I was one of those folks who joined the platinum club for 25 so I could get the 8.5 update for 87 I'd be asking for some money back about now.

I wonder if I wait long enough DAZ will give me Carrara 8.5 for free if I join the platinum club for 25 bucks?

Jeebus, I'm becoming more and more convinced that the folks who run DAZ don't actually run DAZ and have just told everyone 'well, do whatever you think might work for today'.  There just doesn't seem to be any logical plan going on, so it feels like the rules are constantly changing, the goalposts are constantly being moved, and who knows what tomorrow might bring?. 

hope you guys are listening daz has screwed up again

carrara pricing 29 bucks?

http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewthread/29219/

be very quick

Headwax beat me to it.  Stan, this is well below your price point as you mentioned.  Grab quick!  This actually would be what I would consider a 'nominal' fee level :)

Wonder if it's an error that they will correct tomorrow morning when they are back in the office?

I would figure it's an error.  Go for it quickly!

yes I considered 30 bucks a fair price (without all the addon m5 stuff) - so this is close.

Well the error has aparently been corrected and all posts refering to it are gone. That is a dead link headwax.

I'm still getting the same deal at check out that has been there since day 1 of the release. The 85.50 after the Pclub discount. The price out for me hasn't changed since the start of this.

And yes, at $30 I'd have jumped on it and been happy about it; because I know what the bugs are

Doesn't seem DAZ can get the price right and keep it that way through check out. Way to run a busness, oops left out the "i".

Yep, appears the deal is gone. I was ready to jump on that one. Link leads no where. Oh, well.

Ya, that bites, with Howies scenes on sale if I had gotten carrara at $30, I could have gotten country lane or aurboretum.

man, I'm watching the price of items change while looking at them. Was looking at Howies scenes and saw country lane for 50% off, clicked on it, went in my cart at 30% off, jumped back to the store, 30% off

Oh no, pricing roulette doesn't effect sales

Whatching the random pricing kind of makes a person gun shy, like you want to dodge the bullet all together.

Same thing happened to me. I left frustrated. Actually considered purchasing a couple of things, but not when DAZ can't make up its mind how much they're going to charge me.

I picked Carrara up thanks to that glitch! Now I just have to work out how to use it and what shiny things I need to buy. I've noticed that the glitches usually appear in the morning UK time and are gone by lunchtime.

Well I've logged out, cleared cookies and logged back in a few times, I am still seeing the origenal price on carrara. I mean it's not going to thiss new sale price or 89 and free Pclub.

At this point I think DAZ could screw up a peanutbutter and jelly sandwich.

I really would not want to see what DAZ does to a peanutbutter and jelly sandwich. That would just be too much.

Funny. Ether I am the only one not getting then new sale price for C8.5 to come up at check out. Or no one is buying carrara 8.5.

I base this on seeing no new posts about the screwed up price. I may give my other issues with DAZ a rest and concentrate on this one. This one effects everyone that shops at DAZ and not just carraraests. It seems the price in store, the sale price the item should be, and the actual charge at check out tend to be 3 different prices.

I'm urging everyone to brake out that old calculator and check your discounts at check out. I'm not at all sure why DAZ can't seem to keep their pricing in order, but I suspect it's to take advantage of customer confusion. If the constent and consistent pricing issues were costing DAZ money they would have fixed it. I can only assume DAZ is making a profit off it so is not motivated to fix it; much like selling work arounds for app/content issues that need to be fixed.

I've said it before, I'll say it again, DAZ has learned how to make a profit off incompatence. And the truly sad part is people seem more then whiling to pay for this incompatence as long as they get it at a good discount. Or at least think they are.

Now it wont even let me put C8.5 in my cart, keeps telling me I can only buy one copy. I haven't bought it the first time yet.

I didn't buy anything from Howie or Tim Payne's stores during their sale because the DAZ prices were all over the place. Things were one price on the store page and another price (more expensive) on the product page.

I didn't even bother going through the checkout process so DAZ's wonderful cart system could possibly sort it all out.

I really want to support Carrara content creators, but DAZ's ineptitude just sucks the consumer life out of me.

I couldn't buy it right now if I wanted to. Keeps telling me I've already bought it when I try to put it in my cart.

I tried to get Carrara yesterday after reading about the glitch.

Wow, are those guys thorough about getting rid of the evidence. The link and all posts related to the Carrara price were gone when I got there.

I guess Daz doesn't realise that keeping the price low enough will help them move more units.

Now if only they could be this thorough in getting the bugs, glitches, etc out of Carrara then we'd be okay.

The thread in the commons forum that mentions the glitching is still there: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewthread/29198/ that one was probably left because the main focus wasn't the glitch. Discussion of the glitch starts from post number 4.

Doesn't matter to me. Seems DAZ has put me on a complete shut out. I can't take part in anything carrara on DAZ, not even buy it.

But I bet JM is still there harasing people.

Boy, when DAZ bans someone, they really mean BANNED.

The last thread I read where JM was a participant he was playing all nice. He's trying to be a regular Carrara guy now, I guess. He apparently bought the thing and installed it. Asked some newb questions and was almost pleasant.

I thought the guy worked in 'the industry' since forever and was too good to even bother with the likes of us except to rub our noses in how pitifully unprofessional we all are compared him.

I think since some of the brighter Carrara lights are no longer there (the folks that called him to task) he feels that it's safe to come out of the woodwork.

I can't read anything he says without he word 'JERK' floating around in my head.

Quote - I can't read anything he says without he word 'JERK' floating around in my head.

Yeah. He asked a question or 2 that I knew the answer to, but after all my (very bad) dealings with JM, I decided to let someone else take it. I'm not sure if anyone came to the rescue, but it sure won't be me.

Quote - > Quote - I can't read anything he says without he word 'JERK' floating around in my head.

Yeah. He asked a question or 2 that I knew the answer to, but after all my (very bad) dealings with JM, I decided to let someone else take it. I'm not sure if anyone came to the rescue, but it sure won't be me.

 

Just had to smile at that one. It's so nice to know it's not just me. :)

Well as I have said, JM is the one and only person I have on an ignor list. Despite the attitude I'm actually a pretty easy going guy.

I'm still checking the price on C8.5. It never came up at that last sale price of $89 and a free Pclub for a quarter. I think DAZ's biggest issue now is inconsistent pricing. They just can't seem to have items come up at the advertised price most of the time. And this has got to be costing them sales.

I wanted to get Howies country road, but there was the advertised price, the pice in the store, and yet a different price at check out, so I didn't get it.

Persoanlly, as I have said, it's my opinion DAZ does this confusing pricing so they can over charge people with out them knowing. The only other; and more likely, explanation is pure ineptitude when it come to getting their pricing app to work right.

I wonder if DAZ realizes that over the past couple of years they have gotten a real bad rep for being inept. From not being able or whilling to fix issues, to the always going wrong pricing, to just plane bad marketing, DAZ has proved it's self to be a rather inept company.

in·ept adjective i-ˈnept: lacking skill or ability

: showing a lack of skill or ability : not done well

Inept is a good word for them.

I use it to model.  Once in a blue moon I do a render.   I'm sticking with version 7 -- DAZ would have to pay ME to "upgrade" now.  All they seem to be able to do is bloat the program and break what works.

It needs to go to another company.  DAZ can't even decide what kind of company they are, much less what they want to do with Carrara, and if I didn't know better I'd think they had only one programmer for the whole company and she's on part-time as well!

In a better world, they'd stage DAZStudio as the posing, animation, and render engine (optimized for pre-made content), Hexagon as the "create from scratch" engine, and Carrara between them as the "does all things and is priced accordingly" ap.  Except that Hex is buggy as hell and has never been supported, D/S has turned into a confusing mish-mash of micro-pricing and add-ons, and Carrara flounders; unable to spend the time the software needs, they try to keep it competitive by leaping blindly in the direction of every cool idea they think they can get a half-assed approximation to work long enough for Marketing to run off a promo image.

The one admission I will give them is that the two major platforms have also stumbled upon sell-the-flash-not-the-function and you can't turn around without running into a completely revamped OS that instantly becomes a must-have (despite breaking half of the functionality and the majority of the software built for the previous version).  So DAZ is forced to try to play catch-up to Apple and Microsoft when they could be working on more important things.

Yes.  I've been using the software since Ray Dream.  I was a regular contributor to three generations of the bug report system, and a regular at the DAZ forums, helping newbies with modeling and texture woes.

So DAZ changes the forum and deletes all my history, changes the bug reporter AGAIN and as far as I can tell deleted all my bugs, and if you say anything other than Mary Sunshine Larks in the Park around the forums, they delete your post.

I'm not waiting on them to straighten up any more.  I'm waiting on them to have a coup.  Maybe a completely new management might be able to start rebuilding trust.

Quote - I'm not waiting on them to straighten up any more.  I'm waiting on them to have a coup.  Maybe a completely new management might be able to start rebuilding trust.

We can only hope.

A month and it's over. That is just sad. DAZ has just done carrara wrong all the way around. From the lack luster marketing to jiggering it before release. I just seems quite apparent DAZ is trying to sink carrara. I can't come up with any other explanation.

The only thing I can assume is DAZ is purposly torpedoing carrara for a tax write off.

Carrara 8.5 came in with a whimper and went out with a sigh. Very sad.

I've been keeping up with the carrara forum. Seems quite apparent there wont be any fixes of the issues with the release version of 8.5; issues that weren't in the beta.

Till the nassesity of CMS is fixed/removed I wont be getting C8.5, if this continues in to C9 I will be done with carrara all together. DAZ trying to force it's DRM down my throat means I'm done with this.

Seems C8.1 will be my last purches of carrara.

Thanks for going out of your way to screw up a good thing DAZ. This is just yet another instence that proves you can't beleave a word DAZ_s tells you. They lie with frequent regularity.

Any one else remember being assurde we wouldn't need CMS or DIM to use content? And in C8.5 you do. How is that not being lied to?

8.1 may be my last go as well. I'm not at all optimistic that DAZ will change it's current stripes and make some meaningful, real improvements in Carrara for 9.

And yes, I do recall being told that CMS would not be required to use content.