Giana posted at 9:39 PM Fri, 8 September 2023 - #4474305

trained on logos, which are typically copyrighted things, and signatures?  ok, but where did these 'training' tools come from?  companies and organisations just agreed to have their logos used in the 'training"?

The training materials come from data sets used for AI training in research groups in universities and the industry in general. These data sets have been used for research and development for decades, but only became known to the general public after AI became popular (somewhere around last year). These data sets were obtained under the "fair use" legal requirements. Nothing was stolen, or else there would have been lawsuits all over the place decades ago. 

thanks, Twiz.  i sometimes miss doing those, too, but no terribly.  i've learned sooo much from working w. my current character and have garnered a few new simple skills.  not willing to give her up for personal reasons, which you may be aware of regarding Andy.  V4 loads as my default when booting up Poser, and due to mucking w. Abby for this long now, V4's proportions seem really visually odd to me these days...lol

good thing i don't give a damn about being popular...

@Ken - ok, thanks for clarifying

I must admit I am in awe of Crystalis who has me on ignore because their gallery is full of original work created by them as they are vehemently antiAI yet to my totally ignorant eye it looks like AI.

I can only dream of having such mad skills.

WendyLuvsCatz posted at 10:47 PM Fri, 8 September 2023 - #4474312

I must admit I am in awe of Crystalis who has me on ignore because their gallery is full of original work created by them as they are vehemently antiAI yet to my totally ignorant eye it looks like AI.

I can only dream of having such mad skills.

Same here and Twiz. I have never interacted with either of them. I didn't even know you could block on here...shows what I know. However, I usually stay away from the forums because most of the time unless I'm asking for information attacks and judgements often run rampant. :( I for one would have been fine with no posting AI in the galleries and having a forum for it... just IMHO.

I just thought I'd post something here that I saw mentoned earlier today on Matt Wolfes YouTube channel. It's very relevant to what we're discussing here.

https://techcrunch.com/2023/09/07/artists-sign-open-letter-saying-generative-ai-is-good-actually/

When you get to the Techcrunch website there's another link in the main story that takes you to the Creative Commons website. 

some of you might want to stay off X, Zoom etc too

TwiztidKidd posted at 9:29 PM Fri, 8 September 2023 - #4474304

I see the quality and quantity of nudes has dropped considerably, I must post some Poser nudes soon lol

Is there a filter that I can select so I can see only the nu-- nevermind

Hey, Rick, ya need to search for "vapid nudes" as one of the fine folks on page 1 of this happy little discussion referred to them! 🤣 I'm working on a couple my own pervy self... 🤣😂

Re the "gthost signatures".  Well, A couple of days ago I took an old Vue render of MINE into Midjourney to see what I could do.

Just to show you here the original with my signature on....

And one of what MJ came up with

As you can see, no sign of a signature, ghost or otherwise. On this or any of the others.

As far as the rest is concerned, it pees me off that a group of individuals seem to think it's OK to have a go at someone or something, but when those people get the same in return they don't like it.   I reiterate my comment about hypocrisy.

Those who think that AI is the antichrist will never listen.  To me, to someone who is far more knowledgeable on the subject than I ( @Ken1171_Designs ), or anyone else for that matter.  They refuse to believe anyone who does not agree with their blinkered opinions, and for that reason, this is my last comment on and reading of this thread.

Thank you and goodnight.

Hello all,

I am going to lock this thread for now. Please sitemail me if you need an ear. Thank you all for your constructive feedback. I have taken note.