Prints For Sale?

rcook · October 3, 2000 7:33 pm

We would like your opinion of Renderosity allowing the artists to make prints of their gallery images available for sale through the Renderosity store. What do you think of this possibility? We want to hear from you!

Article Comments


Chailynne ( posted at 12:00AM Tue, 03 October 2000

I think it's a great idea. I have seen quite a few I would have considered getting large enough to frame and hang on my wall. I've never found anything in a store I'd really like, so my walls are empty right now. And honestly, some of the work here is simply amazing.

Ironbear ( posted at 12:00AM Tue, 03 October 2000

I think that it would be a good service to offer for those who would want to sell work there. It would have the potential to have artists save their best work for sale... Not much point in offering stuff that can be DL'd for free from the gallery. Might be interesting to see how it works.

chrisp2 ( posted at 12:00AM Tue, 03 October 2000

Sure...you already sell materials, objects, sky presets, etc. Why shouldn't the finished work be available?

CASANOVA ( posted at 12:00AM Tue, 03 October 2000

I feel it would best to have two available options for the artists. 1.) The artist could do his/her own printing, with a high-end Epson printer, or have a local Print Shop makes the prints for him/her. Then the prints couls be offered for sale through this website. 2.) The second option would be for Renderosity to work with a Printing company that can do all the work of printing, and shipping. The artist would upload a high resolution file to his/her website, and the Printing shop could download it, from there. The showcasing of the artist's work would be done, here, at Renderosity. Some artists live in places where it is difficult to find Print Shops, and so having the option of letting Renderosity do all the printing, and shipping would be very helpful to them. My vote is to have both these options available. Casanova

CASANOVA ( posted at 12:00AM Tue, 03 October 2000

I can't seem to avoid typos. I don't wear my glasses while I type, so that must have something to do with it. I just wanted to add that I feel there should be categories of Print Quality, ranging from very high end Giclee Fine Art prints, to low, but not too low, jpg, prints. Maybe the high rollers could even have frames for their images. How about going the whole way, with T-shirts, and mugs, and mousepads? Casanova

Solo22 ( posted at 12:00AM Tue, 03 October 2000

I think it would be very cool...as long as the artist stays in control and doesn't lose complete rights to his image. I'd like to know if any of the artists here sell their own images/prints at the present time. I'm curious to know if there is alot or any demand for such a thing. If anyone has sales and/or a business revolving around their 3D art....please Email me at solo22@citenet.net and tell me about it. (if you feel like telling me that is..hehe) :) Solo22 http://poser22.tripod.com solo22@citenet.net

guigui ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 04 October 2000

I guess is a great idea. Just curious to see what it will done....

paul leatham ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 04 October 2000

Sounds good to me. I imagine that the logistics will be a nightmare but anything that gets the artist a few bucks can't be a bad thing. My preference would be to hold onto the hi-res files myself and then post the images by snail mail.

Syyd ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 04 October 2000

Agree with solo, we must retain control of the image, and what type of print.....But this is one of the best things to come out of here.....Perhaps this is the push some artists need to get on the map, and at the same time, it certainly does a lot for RR.

mjr ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 04 October 2000

Wouldn't this be a possible problem? Most of the images posted are low resolution and wouldn't print up very well unless they were re-rendered. mjr.

chrisp2 ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 04 October 2000

I've done prints, up to 32" in width, using a commercial HP large format printer. Print cost usually runs from $20.00 to $57.00, depending on the size. Overall quality and color are excellent. Though not as good as a Giclee print - they are much less expensive. With decent glass and frame I've been told they should last 30+years. I've been offered $100 to $150 for unframed prints, but have been too lazy so far to actually do it on my own. It would be helpful if Renderosity provided this as a service, especially for lazy louts such as myself.

CharlieBrown ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 04 October 2000

I have a mixed opinion. I think it's a ggreat idea, and hope it becomes a part of the site/store, BUT I, myself would never use this service - images that I like I use as wallpaper only, and then only for a short period of time, and - so far - I've done nothing worth becoming a print!

kennect ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 04 October 2000

The idea is great and could benefit alot of people here..I would think that most here would do better to market their own prints instead of depending solely on Render to do it for them....So I hope there is a plan for two levels of pricing..Retail and then a wholesale price for the artist themselves...But the big question is what printing format and quality? I have to agree with Paul saying the logistics would be a nightmare...Regardless of the questions that I have, I am just glad to see someone is making an effort to offer the service...

nnuu ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 04 October 2000

YES!!!...YES!!!...YEEEESSSSSSSS!!!!!...ive already started on working with higher resolutions for print ...it would really rewarding for the artist ...when this happens and i know it will...i will be only offering low limited print runs...if anyone wants to see a the first pic i will be offering email mail me....(im pretty excited about this and also agree will make renderosity stronger) nnuu :-)

flip ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 04 October 2000

Well I think it'll be a great idea I know that many of the artists are going to have a problem dealing with the production of these pieces. I would like to help out by offering the use of my printers in LA. I know the price is going to be the best you'll be able to find. and I'll be willing to handle the technical aspects and get the job done correctly 1,000 prints - average turnaround time 4 days! ron@candyflipdesign.com

Gear ( posted at 12:00AM Wed, 04 October 2000

Of course. But If you want prints of the worlds finest Sci-fi/Fantasy 3D artwork, you could inquire about "The Road To Basra" collection, by the one and only Kevin Thomas. e-mail: "GearPile@aol.com" for information. -Gear

JadeArcade ( posted at 12:00AM Thu, 05 October 2000

The one thing wrong in today's world is the same thing that was wrong with the art ages of yesteryear, starving artist are common! It is still hard today for an artist to get work shown and ultimately, sold! This service would be invaluable to the working artist. Do this! Do this to it's extreamest extent! -Jade Arcade

Syyd ( posted at 12:00AM Thu, 05 October 2000

okay, here's the deal. If you are going to print with work, then start saving your work at 300 dpi, and go big in size, as it is easier to come down then go back up. Then, according to sources with great knowledge, you need to save in CMYK because the web is RGB, and most printers do the four color separation. If I am talking out the wrong part of my body here, someone correct me. Just trying to help.

praxis22 ( posted at 12:00AM Thu, 05 October 2000

I'd certainly go for it, but you'd need to invest ins some serious print gear to do it right, jpeg's and gif's etc. aren't that good even when dumped to a colour laser printer, you'll need something like a Kodak digital image printer, dye sublimation and the like. But they're limited in size and the media is hellishly expensive. We had one at my last permanent job, and a single A4 shot was more expensive than a full bleed A0 onto embossed stock of the HP CS2500 poster printer we had, (gotta love the PR dept, they had macs too :) So, yeah, I'd go for it, but I'd want at least A3 size and up, and I'd want them at least as good as the Kodak.

szeven ( posted at 12:00AM Thu, 05 October 2000

So, selling one's own poser pictures would be considered commercial, right? But what about the morphs, textures, clothing, props, etc. used in creating the poser pics and the individual creators' restrictions of not using their respective poser creations for commercial use?

MikeArizma ( posted at 12:00AM Thu, 05 October 2000

I'd love to see that, of course. But, as has been said, serious printing gear would be necessary, because the best prints would probably require around 300ppi at least, right? I think that because our images can be downloaded from the gallery for free, the ones for print should be very large and submitted via CD, in some cases, so the output would be magazine quality. Maybe a lower pixel size would work fine, but if the prints would be poster size or hanging picture size, density would be absolutely necessary.

phillycheese81 ( posted at 12:00AM Thu, 05 October 2000

its a good idea.. but i just hope that it isnt filtered on who can post and who cant like with the store... plus it would be good to have renderosity post a FYI on good printing habits.. ie. what resolution, what size.. etc. i know there has to be many people here that would not know where to start. thanks for starting this.

KrzyAce ( posted at 12:00AM Thu, 05 October 2000

I think it's a great idea. It let's alot of people like me trying to get exposure in the art world. As like most of you graphics are my life. It's something that makes me smile when I make something amazing. As it makes other's smile and laugh and feel sad. So my vote is yes.

CASANOVA ( posted at 12:00AM Thu, 05 October 2000

Here are links to an Australian website, that is already offering some limited printing services. The second link takes you to a page that explains their printing methods. You can download an Acrobat file of their "printing method", also. Dreamstone http://www.dreamstone.com.au/ Dreamstone's Printing Methods http://www.dreamstone.com.au/Printing_tech.htm Casanova

Lon Chaney ( posted at 12:00AM Thu, 05 October 2000

Thats a good idea. I started saving all my bryce files on cd so they can be rerendered at higher resolutions as needed. As a dissabled artist every dallar helps.

PaRaDoX ( posted at 12:00AM Fri, 06 October 2000

This is a good idea because there is a captive audience that comes to this website already.... I have tried to sell a good picture (in my opinion) of mine on EBAY.... I have posted it for about a month total time, and there have been no takers.... I should put a counter on the auction to see if people even see it.... I know people would see it here....

texboy ( posted at 12:00AM Fri, 06 October 2000

I agree with Casanova and the others; the loyal fans who don't have an Epson printer would benefit, as would the artist. Luckily, I have an Epson Stylus Photo 700 that produces a gorgeous 1440 dpi print from a 72 dpi download (after shrinking the image and boosting resolution to 300 dpi in Photoshop). Good to have other options if the Epson craps out on me, which it's done once before!

Seven Wolves ( posted at 12:00AM Sat, 07 October 2000

Any way to get the word out that an artist is selling their prints would be good. I personally would have no difficulty printing photo quality prints up to 12x18. My renders are usually done at 300-600 dpi at 10"x14" so there's no problem sizing anything. There is a program out by Genuine Fractals - a demo comes packed with Epson 1200photo printers - that allows you to size up a low res picture to a very fine printable high res image. I've tried the demo and plan to buy the full version to use on some of my older, low res images.

dlm ( posted at 12:00AM Sat, 07 October 2000

Although the logistics of such a venture need some carefull thought I think it would be a good way for those who do not have the resourses to make models and such like to contribute to both Renderosity and there own bank balance.(I,m assuming that Renderosity are considering a similar set up to the store, with them taking a cut for running a kind of Prints Available Gallery.)

egrafx ( posted at 12:00AM Sun, 08 October 2000

I am a graphic/multimedia designer in NYC and often sell my art. It would be great for renderosity to sell pieces. I agree they could handle the printing of the art with inexpensive short run printing presses, available through many shops around the country. Frames can be handled by the person buying the art. (They tend to get damaged in shipping). The high res art generally 150-300dpi can be uploaded to a server at renderosity or mailed on cd or zip.