Antonia has the "cankles"?  :scared:  :lol:  I've been accused of creating the cankles on my character morphs, so I guess I wouldn't really notice, if it were so.  :lol:  Is that just on one of the above morphs, or in general?  If the latter case, a separate morph just to thin out the ankles might have general utility.

Well, on a couple of the morphs, the heavy set one or even rubenesque, they look normal, but for example on the anime, and I understand that tht was just a head, they particularly stand out. Now the last one looks good.

I haven't touched her ankles on most of these. The Skinny one (last one here that you mentioned) was thinned because... well, everything in it was thinned.

Of course, when I start making partial body morphs, I'll include one for ankle thickness :)

These are nothing short of brilliant. Not pretty, perhaps - not into saftig - but highly accurate, from where i'm sitting, anyway. Wow, can't wait for this to hit the shops!!! :woot:

Really impressive work.

Thank you very much, you guys are so sweet!

First one on the top is Antonia's default, so you can compare easily.

Sorry, couldn't resist. Was just too obvious when I was setting the Ears_Raise up.

nice work!

Thank ye!

Very nice. Keep up the good work :)

cheers.

Thank you muchly! ^^

I can't tell but do the ear lobes sag a bit?

Quote - I can't tell but do the ear lobes sag a bit?

One of the ear morphs above (third one in the first row) increases the ear lobe size... I haven't touched the ears in the Face_Old morph.

Morph list so far:

Cheek_BoneFront
Cheek_Chubby
Chin_Double
Chin_Front
Chin_In
Chin_Square
Chin_Thin
Ears_Elf1
Ears_Elf2
Ears_Elf3
Ears_Fins
Ears_Flat
Ears_Kitty
Ears_LobeLong
Ears_Puppy
Ears_Raise
Ears_Size
Eyebrows_Arch
Eyebrows_Deep
Eyebrows_Down
Eyebrows_InnerDown
Eyebrows_OuterUp
Eyebrows_Straight
Eyebrows_Up
Eyes_AlmondInner
Eyes_AlmondOuter
Eyes_Apart
Eyes_Baggy
Eyes_Big
Eyes_Deep
Eyes_DownCenterMove
Eyes_DownInMove
Eyes_DownOutMove
Eyes_EyelidsAsian
Eyes_EyelidsMove
Eyes_Height
Eyes_InnerUp
Eyes_Slant
Eyes_Small
Eyes_UpCenterMove
Eyes_UpInMove
Eyes_UpOutMove
FBM_Anime
FBM_Anime (FBM)
FBM_Athletic
FBM_Athletic (FBM)
FBM_ComicBook
FBM_ComicBook (FBM)
FBM_Fat
FBM_Fat (FBM)
FBM_Old
FBM_Old (FBM)
FBM_Skinny
FBM_Skinny (FBM)
FBM_Slim
FBM_Slim (FBM)
FBM_Voluptuous
FBM_Voluptuous (FBM)
FBM_Young
FBM_Young (FBM)
Face_Anime
Face_Diamond
Face_Heart
Face_InvTriangle
Face_Long
Face_Oblong
Face_Old
Face_Oval
Face_Rectangular
Face_Round
Face_Square
Face_Triangular
Forehead_Front
Forehead_Wide
Jaw_Long
Jaw_SquareSmooth
Jaw_SquareStrong
Lacrimals_Asian
Lacrimals_Small
Lashes_ArmedLower
Lashes_ArmedUpper
Lashes_LongLower
Lashes_LongUpper
Lashes_PointyLower
Lashes_PointyUpper
Lashes_UpperInnerShort
Lines_MouthSmooth
Lips_Premade1
Lips_Premade10
Lips_Premade11
Lips_Premade12
Lips_Premade2
Lips_Premade3
Lips_Premade4
Lips_Premade5
Lips_Premade6
Lips_Premade7
Lips_Premade8
Lips_Premade9
Mouth_CornersIn
Mouth_Doll
Mouth_Feline
Mouth_Height
Mouth_LowerCenterDown
Mouth_LowerCurve
Mouth_LowerLarge
Mouth_LowerSides
Mouth_LowerSidesFront
Mouth_LowerThick
Mouth_LowerThin
Mouth_Narrow
Mouth_UpperCSidesBack
Mouth_UpperCenterDown
Mouth_UpperCenterFront
Mouth_UpperCenterUp
Mouth_UpperCurveless
Mouth_UpperLarge
Mouth_UpperSides
Mouth_UpperSidesDown
Mouth_UpperThick
Mouth_UpperThin
Mouth_Wide
Nose_Alien
Nose_BridgeDeep
Nose_BridgeThin
Nose_DownThin
Nose_Feline
Nose_Long
Nose_MiddleDepth
Nose_MiddleThin
Nose_NostrilCenterDown
Nose_NostrilSidesDown
Nose_NostrilUp
Nose_NostrilUpperDown
Nose_NostrilsThin
Nose_Pointy
Nose_Short
Nose_Thin
Nose_TipDepth
Nose_TipThin
Nose_TipUp
Philtrum_Deep
Philtrum_Short
Philtrum_Smooth
Philtrum_Wide

Those are all categorized under groups to be easier to find. Now I'm gonna start making partial body morphs. Up for suggestions, if somebody has any.

Wow!  Ooh, what a morph package!  :woot:

Partial body morphs.  Hmm.  Fingernail length, perhaps?  I don't think there are morphs yet for different breast shapes, only sizes.  I know breast shaping have been (somewhat longingly) discussed in the main Antonia thread.  Umm.  Ankle thickness?  Shaping and sizing for the backside?  Hip and waist width?

I guess anywhere on the body where there can be fleshy bits might be a good candidate for PBMs.  :unsure:

Noted, thanks! Will include breast sizes too, I don't want my future customers of this package to need others. Not to pull anybody's leg, but people might get disencouraged to use Antonia if she's quite that complicated for options...

Before I work on the PBMs though, I'm gonna try and turn these into PMD. See if they work, check my options, see if I'm wasting my time putting limits on morphs, etc... never worked with PMDs before, wish me luck!

Nerd3d's tutorial doesn't cover this, so... does anybody know how I can apply limits to morphs using a pz2?

No pregnant morph?

That would be a partial morph. Will add it to the to-do list, thanks!

targetGeom exampleMorph
{      
    forceLimits 1
    min -0.5
    max 2.5    
}

Setting limits using a pose: The pose needs to include the morph listing, with forceLimits set to 1 and min and max set to the limits.  It's pretty simple, really.  :D

Thanks!

Yes, simple... but it would drive me crazy to do that for all those morphs D: any chance somebody made a python for this? Otherwise... I guess I'll just leave them unlimited ;-;

Do you have the limits already set up in the .cr2 which contains the morphs?  If so, you can just trim down that .cr2 to create the pose.  Unless that would be the crazy-driving part.  :unsure:

I don't know of any Python utility to help create a pose to set parameter limits, but there could be one out there.  :unsure:

Quote - Do you have the limits already set up in the .cr2 which contains the morphs?  If so, you can just trim down that .cr2 to create the pose.  Unless that would be the crazy-driving part.  :unsure:

Well exactly, that would be the crazy-driving part LOL

I'm already spending the better part of this day editing text here for the script pz2's that go with the PMD injection pose... The one that groups the morphs is done and working (SQUEEEE! Thank you Nerd3d for the easy to follow tutorial!), now I'm making the one to inject the ERC's, and this one I'm making completely by hand without the help of PZ3Editor which I find kinda slow for deleting stuff... And I really really fear I might be forgetting a { or a } that I won't be able to find later xD wish me luck.

I think all of that could probably be done by one single pose.  Unless you need to have separate poses to give the user some choice of which features to add by pose? 

That is... not to complicate your work-in-progress or anything.    I don'wanna be the crazy-maker, here.  :scared:  :laugh:

Quote - I think all of that could probably be done by one single pose.  Unless you need to have separate poses to give the user some choice of which features to add by pose? 

That is... not to complicate your work-in-progress or anything.    I don'wanna be the crazy-maker, here.  :scared:  :laugh:

They're actually pz2's that act as "scripts" that I'm placing in her INJ folder along with the PMD file. I'm making them separated to help me not get completely messed up and confused, but I'm referring to them all in a single Pose file via readScript lines.

"The file being read is not a valid Poser file" ITOLDMESOITOLDMESOITOLDMESOOOOO

HAH I managed. IT WOOOOORKSSSSSSSSSSS! It's so exciting to make stuff I had never made before work xDNow I gotta decide if I'll have the patience to make the limits. Well... after I play with these injections a bit. I'm thinking "test it in Diogenes' WM Antonia NOOOOW!" heh.

Please forgive my excitedness. Ahem

So, here's Diogenes' weight-mapped Antonia, with my (very quickly) dialed morphs.

I tried to give her some clothing to post in the Demo Weight mapping thread over at RDNA, because I don't know if they allow people to directly post nude images, but... all I could muster up was trying to convert Alyson's dynamic dress all too quickly, and that came out ugly. I hope Diogenes sees this though, he seemed so excited when another person posted an image featuring WM Antonia...

:woot:  Awesome Aphrodite_ohki  Certainly is coming together very nicely. It looks like your morphs will work well with the weight mapping yes?

Thank you for the render. It always makes a brighter day :thumbupboth: 

Are you taking requests? There are still some face morphs I'd like to see.

For example:

A couple sets of Cheek - Dimple morphs (not everyone has dimples in the same vertical line on the face). Edit: Being able to make dimples longer and/or deeper independently of each other would also be fabulous.

Other cheek morphs such as sunken, wide, high etc.

Eyes - Laugh Lines (creases in the skin to the outside of the eye)

Other eye area morphs such as Eyes - Sunken (or is that the same as your Eyes_Deep morph?)

Forehead - wrinkles/creases (I know, best done with a displacement maps, but morphs are nice, especially if you want something dramatic)

More facial morph suggestions:

Chin_Cleft

Eyeball_IrisSize

Eyeball_PupilSize

Lips_Pucker

Lips_PullIn

Lips_CurlLeft

Lips_CurlRight

Lips_Pout

Mouth_SideToSide

Teeth_Long

Teeth_Bucked

Teeth_Fangs (not my thing, but I'm sure lots of people will love it)

Tongue_Long and/or Tongue_Out

Tongue_Curl

Tongue_SideToSide

Re: your eyebrow morphs - please make these available not only as both eyebrows moving together, but also separately.

I saw you had nose_narrow - how about nose_wide? Or mouth_wide? or are these just the other extreme of the corresponding "narrow" morph?

I think you've created a monster, Ohki! :biggrin:

Tbh, in lieu of trying to satisfy 40 gazzillion requests, maybe you could take the requests down as part two... the main morphs are all there, AFAICT...

Don't forget to start thinking of a price, petal... I for one will pay quite willingly for your hard work! Oh, and if you need a beta-tester, I'll pay to do that too!! :woot: Gotta support our GIRL!!!

Oh, definitely, I would pay for a well-organized, reasonably complete set of well-done morphs too.

Quote - I tried to give her some clothing to post in the Demo Weight mapping thread over at RDNA, because I don't know if they allow people to directly post nude images, but... all I could muster up was trying to convert Alyson's dynamic dress all too quickly, and that came out ugly.

i have made dynamic several clothes for Antonia but i am working in another project and lack time to finish and package them, but if you don't mind to work with a .obj and have to set yourself the dynamic groups, PM me an email

Ouch, ok seems I woke up a few little monsters here, yes? LOL

@Diogenes: hey you came! <3 I'm glad you like it, yes, they work very well together!

@Believable3D: Dimples? Good idea! There's one problem though, that might be the same for Eye laugh lines... (though I suspect it to be more likely to be able to make the dimples). Antonia is quite low-poly, her mesh around the eyes isn't nearly dense enough for wrinkles. Yes, I guess Eyes_Deep is what you'd call Sunken, english is not my birth language so I'm using simple names to avoid naming stuff simply wrong. Hm, I did mean to make forehead crease, I must have forgotten...
What's a chin cleft? Lips pucker, curl, pout and stuff are expressions, I'm not making those (and I think the ones that come with Antonia have those already?). Hey, I didn't think to mess with teeth, good idea! Those tongue options could be done posing the two tongue parts, no? And I was already intending to make morphs for the Eyeball... apart from the Iris Sizes and Pupil sizes, I wanted to make a Cornea Bulge and Slit pupils, but that will depend if I can figure out how to mask mesh sections by material in ZBrush. About the eyebrows, I don't know how to make two one-sided morphs that are symmetrical to each other; plus, I think that eyebrows moving separetely would also be expressions, no?

@Robyn: Dialing Nose_Narrow to negative makes a good Nose Wide, actually. Same with mouth. I tested every single morph for negatives (and limited both ways for each except for the full-body morphs... still have to muster up patience to make that work with the injections), those that looked good with negative values I didn't quite bother making their opposites. Pay to be a beta tester? LOL oh come on hahahah... and thanks, you guys are so lovely <3

@rjjack: I really wouldn't mind having to set things up, and thank you for the offer! But right now I want to focus on the morphs, soonish I'll just model a bikini for her and make it dynamic so I can easily show the morphs. But thank you all the same!

Afrodite - chin cleft is the vertical indentation a lot of folks have in the center of their chin. Usually more marked on men than women.

Really hope you can manage some of those dimple and wrinkle morphs, as they're very useful.

Quote - Afrodite - chin cleft is the vertical indentation a lot of folks have in the center of their chin. Usually more marked on men than women.

Oh! That would be the one I called Chin_Double. I think.

Hm, that's not what a double chin is. A double chin is a bulge below the chin line, giving a look almost like two chins - hence the term. A cleft is sort of like a vertical dimple square in the middle of the real chin.

Augh, I named it wrong then >_< sigh

I'm learning just so much making all these.

good work! book marked

Doesn't Antonia already have somewhat of a cleft chin? Any more and with a bit of shading it would look like a goatee... :lol:

LMAO!

Again, I'm all in favor of morphs that work in negative values. Perhaps I could make one that, when positive, gets rid of her chin cleft completely, and when negative, makes it deeper.

That sounds excellent.

The fingernail morphs look great!

I did with the Athletic FBM... wonder if it would be useful to have it for body parts separately?

Yes. :)

K, will do ;)