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 Subject: Generation X Genesis Tutorial for Beginners (and not-so-beginners) {Warning: Nud

Sharkbytes-BamaScans opened this issue on Jun 15, 2012 · 37 posts

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  Sharkbytes-BamaScans () ( posted at 8:26PM Fri, 15 June 2012 · edited on 8:27PM Fri, 15 June 2012

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Okay, so you just purchased Generation X Genesis and aren’t quite sure what to do with your new-found toy?  Hopefully, this tutorial will help you out in converting all those Vickie 4 characters you have sitting around into something that you can use with Genesis.  This tutorial will cover three (possibly four) areas which I’ve found quite useful in creating my characters.

Very little is needed for all this to work:
DazStudio – I use version 4.0 and I’m not sure if it’ll work with earlier version.  I, do, have it on reliable authority that is does not work with 4.5
Generation X Genesis
V4 and M4 Shapes for Genesis – you can get along without this and use V5 or the genesis basic female shape; but the resulting character will not look exactly like the V4 version of the original character.  In the screenies at the end, I’ll try to show some of the results you can get using the Iconic Shapes package for Genesis
Notepad ++ for file management.  This isn’t necessary but it facilitates editing large amounts of files at the same time.  It’s free and you can get it here:

For the purpose of this tutorial, I’m going to install a new character(for me) into DazStudio as it helps me organize my workflow in my brain for the purpose of writing this tute.

Tutorial:
1.  Load your base Victoria 4.2 into a new scene.

  1. Load whatever morph packages you need into you V4, such as Morphs ++, S4, G4, A4, whatever the original calls for in making the original character.

For my sample I’m using the Neela for V4 character by DTG that I got some time ago and just never had the time to use.  Since all the original character calls for are the V4 ++ morphs, that’s all I’m going to load into my base Vickie.

3.  I go ahead and add the texture for the character when I’m injecting her morphs.  You’ll see why in a couple steps.  You don’t have to if you don’t want to; but, doing so will allow us to later use a neat function of GenX that will help our Smart Content stay pretty.

4.  Then I add on some random hair that will accentuate her face.  Note: This is NOT a must and you’ll have to delete the hair from the scene in a later step; but, I find that when I’m making the icons, my characters all look kind of homely without any hair.

5.  Then I pose her in a way that will show off her body and face adequately for the purposes of thumbnail creation.

6.  Now, since I’m going to be making four individual morphs for Genesis, I’m going to make three individual thumbnail renders.   One render for a full character and for a body-only morph.  One thumbnail for her breasts(need a good close-up render of the torso from the breasts up) and one for her head only.

8.  I make my quickie renders.  I turn the slider down to “1” on Quality vs. Speed and then  I make a custom frame size of 147x185.  You’ll want to save these in a spot you can easily get to.

 

You’ll want to place your character in the bottom/left corner of the frame, zoom in or out whatever is needed to see what it is you’re making the thumbnail of.  I give about ½ the frame horizontally, and leave a blank spot of about and 1/8th at the top of the frame.  Like this:  

Now I make my three renders.  One full-body shot, one head shot and one of just her breasts.  Save them all in an easy location.  I save mine in the folder we’re going to be working in from here on out.  This would be your My LibrarydataDAZ 3DGenesisBaseMorphsD3D Gen XVictoria 4 folder.  This is the folder where GenX saves all your converted morphs.

9.  Delete the hair out of the scene and export your V4 as a cr2.  Name it something you’ll remember and put it in a place where you’ll remember where it is.  Now, if your DazStudio cr2 exporter doesn’t remember your file paths, just follow the errors prompts on the cr2 exporter.  I say this because my D|S doesn’t have these paths saved and I have to put them in manually every time.

10.  Create a new scene, you’re done with Vickie and don’t need her in the scene anymore.

11.  Now, we actually start working with GenX.  Click on Window|Tabs|GenX and you’ll see the GenX screen pop up.  First thing we want to do is load that cr2 you just saved.  So click on the “Load Figure” button.  In the screen below you’ll see a bunch of lines.  The two we’re concerned with the most are “body” and “head.”  We’re going to make our full character morph first, then we’ll make a body only, then a breast only, then a head only morph.  This is how I do it.   You’re certainly free to organize your morphs whatever way you want.

                11A.  Shift/click on both the body and head lines in the middle box.  Then right click and choose “All|Transfer: On for Non-Zero Values”

                11B.  On the dropdown below the center box, make sure the selection for “Create Single Morph” is showing.

                11C.  Click the “Transfer” button

12.  Next we’ll get another popup screen.  This is where we name our morph, where it will show up in our SmartContent and what it’s pic will be.  Right at 11c(above) we see the following screen: (pic 6)   The best way I’ve found for naming and organizing my morph conversions is to adopt a naming strategy and stick to it.  That way everything is easy to find when you go to shaping your characters.  So, on this screen, to go with MY naming/categorizing scheme I’m going to enter this into the next boxes:

Box1: Neela
Box 2: I delete what’s in there and write in where I want this morph to show up in my smart content.  Since it’s a full character morph I name it Characters ”/2nd Party/Real World/White”
Box 3: Since it’s a full character morph I leave the region as Actor
Then I click on the file button and browse to the full body icon I made in step 8 and select the correct icon pic.

Click “Accept” and GenX works it’s magic.

13.  Now for the individual body part morphs.  I’ll go over this rather quickly since some actions were explained in previous steps.

First we need to deselect the morphs we previously transferred.  So, on the GenX main screen, “body” and “head” should still be highlighted.  Right click and select “All|Transfer Off”

Now, click the arrow to the left of body and that will expand the morph list to show every single morph that was in the cr2.  Even a ton of zero value morphs.  We are only going to worry about the morphs that have a value other than zero in the “Value” column.   You want to shift click the whole list of morphs in the body area and then right click and select  “Highlighted|Transfer: On for Non-Zero Values”
First I go through and uncheck the far left box for everything that deals with the areola, breasts and nipples.  I do this since it’s a body-only morph.  Then I repeat this step and only I uncheck everything that deals with the body OTHER than the areola, breasts and nipples.  This will give me my breast-only morph.  For the head morph, make sure that no body morphs are checked in the far left box and make sure your head morphs ARE checked.

14.  The next pic shows my screens for how I set up my custom body, breast and head morphs in the second screen where we named and categorized our morphs in step 12 above.

15.  Now, we are essentially done with our custom morphs.  They ALL get saved to the My LibrarydataDAZ 3DGenesisBaseMorphsD3D Gen XVictoria 4 folder.  This folder can get quite gnarly if you use GenX a lot or if you do large suites of morphs like NBM or ++Morphs.  I’ll go over how to work with these suites in my second tutorial.  So, what I’ve done is organize this directory according to what kind of morph it is.

Now, once you’re down to the Victoria 4 folder, any subsequent folders you make are irrelevant.  They’ll always show up in DazStudio where we told them to in step 12.  One hitch in this is that GenX thinks that the icon for the morph is where it is now.  It will always save new copies of your icon in the GenX folder for V4 or M4 depending on who the morph was for.  So, we have to tell DazStudio where that icon is when we move it.  Since I move all my 2nd party characters to a folder named “2ndParty” we have to edit the dsf file to reflect this location change.  One thing extra, using spaces in your directory and file names sucks for editing later.  I avoid unnecessary work by avoiding spaces.  Use dashes or underscores or no spaces at all to make things easier.

16.  Next step, edit the dsf file.  Just refer to the screenshot and you’ll see what I do.  Open the dsf file with notepad, or write, or notepad ++ if you downloaded already. See the next screenshot to see what I edited in the dsf file.

17.  We need to do this with the next 3 dsf files that we made too.  This is where the power of notepad++ comes into play.  Since we already have a file open in notepad++.  Simply highlight the entire “icon large” line that we edited in the previous step and copy it.

Now click up top on “Search|Find in files”

You’re free now to move your files and their corresponding icons to the directories you made for them.

Last step – test our results.

Load up Vickie and repeat steps 1 through 4 above.

Load a blank Genesis and add the same hair and texture
Slide the Victoria 4 slider to 100%
Dial in your custom morphs

All of these will be located on the shaping tab in the structure you created

Note: GenX is based on the V4 body shape, so not having V4 shape for genesis can give you some odd results.  You CAN use whatever stock shapes you have like V5, Basic Female, or any of the Iconic Shapes for Genesis.  Even Freak works.

Look at them side-by-side and see that they’re as identical as you’re going to get.

The last shot I’ve added to this tutorial is some of the things you can do once you have these morphs in your smart content.  If you’re reading this tute, you should know the power of Genesis and the amazing combinations that you can make with it.  In this last pic, it took me sliding 10 sliders to get five renditions of the same character; and it took me about 15 seconds to do it.  Dare ya to do that with Poser.

 Hopefully, you found this tutorial informative if not actually helpful.  I'll try to whip up a tutorial on using Generation X Genesis to convert entire suites of morphs like NBM for V4 into Genesis morphs soon.

 

Cheers,
BamaShark

 

Still desperately searching for the whereabouts of #SDC out in the world of IRC.


  SickenlySweete () ( posted at 9:32PM Fri, 15 June 2012  · @3943995

this is great! thank you for your time and effort in creating this for us.

this should be sticked to the top of the forum.

i will be directing help threads to this one in the future as well as copying the link to my refereces for future use.

 

www.bloodyrosesdesigns.com

 

http://www.aldaraproject.com/aldara/

http://www.dreamslayervisions.com


  Sharkbytes-BamaScans () ( posted at 9:54PM Fri, 15 June 2012  · @3944009

Quote - this is great! thank you for your time and effort in creating this for us.

this should be sticked to the top of the forum.

i will be directing help threads to this one in the future as well as copying the link to my refereces for future use.

 

Thanks for the compliment(s).  I'm going to be doing another tute for converting suites of morphs (NBM for V4 specifically) either tonight or tomorrow.  It probably won't be tonight as work is overwhelming me for the moment.

 

Sharkie


  aproctor () ( posted at 10:16PM Fri, 15 June 2012  · @3944016

I haven't gotten GenX.  But I know I will, so thanks for this!!!! :)

Cheers,
Alisa



  chiefarchon () ( posted at 9:23AM Sat, 16 June 2012  · @3944195

Thank you so much I really needed that


  durf () ( posted at 3:52AM Tue, 19 June 2012  · @3945617

why no pdf?


  Sharkbytes-BamaScans () ( posted at 7:25AM Tue, 19 June 2012  · @3945667

Quote - why no pdf?

sheesh.. bitch about being hung with a new rope


  cybertommy () ( posted at 9:25AM Tue, 19 June 2012  · @3945746

VERY cool. Thanks Shark!


  MKeyes () ( posted at 1:17PM Tue, 19 June 2012  · @3945890

Oh my goodness, I had no idea this was in here! I have Gen X and have not used it yet because I didn't know how. And was too busy to try and figure it out, but now... with this page, I'll definitely be giving it a go! Thank you sooo much!

Until the Daz forum feels like home again, I guess I'll be hanging out here more. 


  RorrKonn () ( posted at 1:36PM Wed, 04 July 2012  · @3952791

Kool ,Thanks

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  MKeyes () ( posted at 1:28PM Sun, 15 July 2012 · edited on 1:29PM Sun, 15 July 2012 · @3957859

[quote]

You’ll want to place your character in the bottom/left corner of the frame, zoom in or out whatever is needed to see what it is you’re making the thumbnail of.  I give about ½ the frame horizontally, and leave a blank spot of about and 1/8that the top of the frame.  Like this:  

9.  Delete the hair out of the scene and export your V4 as a cr2.  Name it something you’ll remember and put it in a place where you’ll remember where it is.  Now, if your DazStudio cr2 exporter doesn’t remember your file paths, just follow the errors prompts on the cr2 exporter.  I say this because my D|S doesn’t have these paths saved and I have to put them in manually every time.

[/quote]

I tried to settle in and do this today... and I'm stuck at step 9. already.

I did everything up to that point - and then when I went to export the cr2 and save it, it opened up a Cr2 Export Options box... that asked me to do things I hadn't a CLUE of what to do or where to find what.

Poser version tag?

? Base Path... what do you do? What's the path that is right?

? Cr2 Path... again, what do you do? What goes here?

square tick box - Save Binary?

tick box - Use Exp?

? Exp Path??? - with out doing what needs to be done with that Cr2 Export Options box - I stopped and could not go any further.

HELP??? Please...


  Sharkbytes-BamaScans () ( posted at 3:40PM Sun, 15 July 2012  · @3957916

In the save cr2 option popup.. leave everything at default.. the top path box you will want to browse to your runtime directory and set that as the base path.. the bottom box you'll browse to your runtime/libraries/characters directory and again put in the same name that you originally chose to save your cr2 as


  MKeyes () ( posted at 7:21PM Sun, 15 July 2012  · @3957979

Thank you for your quick response, I'll be giving it another go tomorrow. 

Hopefully I'll eventually get it... so... I'll be back.

Again... BIG thanks for this... it's really appreciated.


  MKeyes () ( posted at 6:42PM Mon, 16 July 2012  · @3958597

[quote]In the save cr2 option popup.. leave everything at default.. the top path box you will want to browse to your runtime directory and set that as the base path.. the bottom box you'll browse to your runtime/libraries/characters directory and again put in the same name that you originally chose to save your cr2 as[/quote]

OKay... I do believe I got past that step... I'm moving onto the next.


  MKeyes () ( posted at 7:13PM Mon, 16 July 2012  · @3958612

Woooo hoooo - I cannot believe it! I did it and it worked! Thank you sooo much! WOW! I'm going to go transfer KERAZEEE!!!

Hahahahahaaaa - brilliant tutorial!!!!


  Sharkbytes-BamaScans () ( posted at 9:03PM Mon, 16 July 2012  · @3958668

Quote - Woooo hoooo - I cannot believe it! I did it and it worked! Thank you sooo much! WOW! I'm going to go transfer KERAZEEE!!!

Hahahahahaaaa - brilliant tutorial!!!!

Glad it worked for ya.. I love GenX and have gone a little transfer kerazeee myself


  Arumbus () ( posted at 12:05AM Fri, 20 July 2012  · @3960235

Quote - Thanks for the compliment(s).  I'm going to be doing another tute for converting suites of morphs (NBM for V4 specifically) either tonight or tomorrow.  It probably won't be tonight as work is overwhelming me for the moment.

 

Sharkie

 

This was brilliant! I really look forward to the second tut!

 

Thank you in advance.


  durf () ( posted at 4:16AM Fri, 20 July 2012  · @3960274

Quote - > Quote - this is great! thank you for your time and effort in creating this for us.

this should be sticked to the top of the forum.

i will be directing help threads to this one in the future as well as copying the link to my refereces for future use.

 

Thanks for the compliment(s).  I'm going to be doing another tute for converting suites of morphs (NBM for V4 specifically) either tonight or tomorrow.  It probably won't be tonight as work is overwhelming me for the moment.

 

Sharkie

 

where did you post the second tutorial?


  Sharkbytes-BamaScans () ( posted at 8:14AM Fri, 20 July 2012  · @3960314

Haven't had the time to get it done just yet... Should be here in the Daz Studio section when it is finished.


  Arumbus () ( posted at 7:22PM Sun, 05 August 2012  · @3967781

I have Gen X for V4 and V3 - was just trying it out for V3 for the first time - seemed to work fine on the morph part.

It however will not load the original V3 textures.... is that how it is or maybe I did somthing wrong.

 

The V4 conversions I have don load the texturs just fine.


  MKeyes () ( posted at 7:44PM Sun, 05 August 2012 · edited on 7:46PM Sun, 05 August 2012 · @3967788

quote="I have Gen X for V4 and V3 - was just trying it out for V3 for the first time - seemed to work fine on the morph part.

It however will not load the original V3 textures.... is that how it is or maybe I did somthing wrong.

* *

The V4 conversions I have don load the texturs just fine."

end - quote...

GenX transfers POSES only! Textures will not transfer... and NONE of the Generation 3 textures will fit V4... nor Genesis... for the most part, they are obsolete unless used on Generation 3... 

GenX - MORPHS only! wink 


  Arumbus () ( posted at 7:52PM Sun, 05 August 2012 · edited on 7:53PM Sun, 05 August 2012 · @3967790

Quote -
GenX transfers POSES only! Textures will not transfer... and NONE of the Generation 3 textures will fit V4... nor Genesis... for the most part, they are obsolete unless used on Generation 3... 

GenX - MORPHS only! wink 

 

I knew it transfered the morphs only ~wink~ Darn.  I was able to apply 4V textures after I used Gen X so I was hoping I could do the same with V3. Too bad.


  Sharkbytes-BamaScans () ( posted at 11:42PM Sun, 05 August 2012  · @3967887

Quote - I have Gen X for V4 and V3 - was just trying it out for V3 for the first time - seemed to work fine on the morph part.

It however will not load the original V3 textures.... is that how it is or maybe I did somthing wrong.

 

The V4 conversions I have don load the texturs just fine.

Those v4 and m4 morphs for genesis that you have that give you the 4th gen shapes; the way they make 4th gen textures work on genesis is that D|S converts M4 and V4 uv sets to genesis and that makes the 4th gen textures work on genesis.  I believe Daz has the V3 and M3 shapes for genesis morphs out now which will install the v3 and m3 uv sets into daz studio.  when that happens you will be able to use 3rd gen textures on genesis.


  Arumbus () ( posted at 1:45AM Mon, 06 August 2012  · @3967921

Quote -  I believe Daz has the V3 and M3 shapes for genesis morphs out now which will install the v3 and m3 uv sets into daz studio.  when that happens you will be able to use 3rd gen textures on genesis.

 

They do. I purchased them. That what I was using. Unfortunately no luck. Spose I need to talk to daz....


  Strixowl () ( posted at 7:06PM Mon, 06 August 2012  · @3968425

Thanks for the tute sharkbytes


  Male_M3dia () ( posted at 5:41AM Tue, 07 August 2012 · edited on 5:41AM Tue, 07 August 2012 · @3968579

Quote - > Quote -  I believe Daz has the V3 and M3 shapes for genesis morphs out now which will install the v3 and m3 uv sets into daz studio.  when that happens you will be able to use 3rd gen textures on genesis.

 

They do. I purchased them. That what I was using. Unfortunately no luck. Spose I need to talk to daz....

There are no UVs added for any of the Gen3 shapes... they had issues getting the UVs of Gen4 into genesis (head, finger and toes seams are visible... head seams are visible if your texture has hair). It was probably too much of a hassle to do the gen3 ones. Texture converter (sold on DAZ) would be your only option of converting Gen3 textures to Gen4 to be used with Genesis.


  Lee1979 () ( posted at 5:16PM Mon, 13 August 2012  · @3971581

Doesn't work for me I get Error loading Genesis Geomatries when transfering


  Sharkbytes-BamaScans () ( posted at 9:06PM Thu, 23 August 2012  · @3977318

Quote - Doesn't work for me I get Error loading Genesis Geomatries when transfering

' Seems as though you've upgraded to D|S 4.5.  In the update Genesis gets a major overhaul which causes GenX to give you that error.  Since I updated to 4.5 also; we'll both have to wait til GenX is updated for 4.5


  Lee1979 () ( posted at 5:34AM Thu, 30 August 2012  · @3980148

Quote - > Quote - Doesn't work for me I get Error loading Genesis Geomatries when transfering

' Seems as though you've upgraded to D|S 4.5.  In the update Genesis gets a major overhaul which causes GenX to give you that error.  Since I updated to 4.5 also; we'll both have to wait til GenX is updated for 4.5

Yep that might be it, I'm back to using Gen 4 which works fine still, it's just a bit of a job to get everything right, but at least it works.


  superboomturbo () ( posted at 12:41AM Fri, 28 September 2012  · @3992676

Read most, followed half, got 'er working with some T&E  Probably should have read this first more intently before I bought it, cuz man, it's a lot of effin work! But hey, it's cool to see that one slider FBM morph work in Genesis! 

Quick question for ya: When replacing the hair (the same I had on V4 in this instance) have you lost all the morphs from using autofit? Just tried Vhair for reference and now it's sitting on Genesis' head with no friggin adjustments, and she's got a portion sticking out between her legs (eww!) ;-( 

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  Sharkbytes-BamaScans () ( posted at 8:24AM Fri, 28 September 2012  · @3992776

Boom.. it's probably that you're still back in the stone ages with 4.0.. get with the program and up to 4.5 and that's no longer an issue.


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