It's childish fun to creep up on friends and suddenly whip their trousers down. It is less fun for the friend if, unknown to the de-bagger, they're going commando for the day... However, it's much more fun for the soon to be ex-friend. As a youth I may have done this to one or two of my friends, and one was only wearing a sporting jockstrap under his trousers. The rest of us in the group were beside ourselves with laughter for most of the rest of the afternoon. Childish, but harmless fun between friends. After experimenting with dForce collapsing a bra swung from the fingers, I had an idea triggered by a video tutorial on the DAZ freebie forum about 'pulling pants down'. It struck me that dForce could do the job just as well as MeshGrabber, so I tried it out. The procedure was to stand the figure up in the zero pose, set the stretch stiffness for the fabric very low (0.05), friction very low (0.00001), contraction/expansion ratio at 110% and gravity quite high, 3. This meant that the trousers could stretch easily over the figure's buttocks. Then ran a simulation with 'start from memorised pose' to off, with the mouse hovering over the 'Cancel' button so I could stop it as soon as the simulation lowered the trousers as far as I wanted. Then, I posed the figures and hey presto, this was the result. Figures: MostDigitalCreations CS66 being debagged and the debagger is Daenestra for Angharad 8. Background building is one of the freebies from DAZ that was in the Grimes Free Bundle - Saba's AlKair