AKA: "Debbie's second Greatest Nightmare." Asked what her first greatest nightmare, "A room full of spiders!" Doing a tutorial on "Making a Grass Plane" I came up with the idea in response to Debbie's reaction to my 1966 Ford Ranchero I found under some trees a couple of years back. It's in the garage now and (cough) some work has been done on it, but life has kept it under the covers this last year or so. Though it didn't have any snakes in it, there were a couple of rodent carcasses I had to take care of (one squirrel and one rat). But hey! It was a warm and cozy space for them until the end. Not to mention it being full of nuts (not counting the one behind the wheel). It's coming along (and so is Debbie). :o) Used a lot of stuff no longer in the drop downs (if you see your stuff here...Thank You!). They are worth what I paid for them. No complaints from the peanut farm. Post work included my own motion blur on the snake and arm. Everything else was pure-T Poser 9 Firefly renderer. Now back to the tutorials; Misplaced the "wind force" fan on Alyson the other day, made her look like a bald Marilyn Monroe in a yellow dress. These tutorials by ironman13 and Fugazi1968 are GREAT, nay OUTSTANDING. If you want some fun (like this), they're called, "Poser from Beginner to Advanced." Just a tad higher in price than the Poser books I've purchased, and a LOT more clearrer on learning something new (or remembering what you forgot, or couldn't understand from the books).