click here is the link to the bottom photo that could have won first place. This photo have the most favorities in my gallery. I was told that by the the person that had the art contest. The judge told her to tell me I was a very good photograhyer. It just my pessention of the work was bad. I had a cream color mat and the fram was cream color too. The judge would have liked a pure white mat and a color fram of some typy not what you see here. Another artist over head her and told me I sure have won first with the photo. say the mat and fram look fine to him. I did not knot this artist but he won in his area he had. The top one you saw too click I have to do my own mats and get my frams on sell. i bought some off the web and they was fine but no glass, just plaisit lol misswpelled] so I had to go and buy glass and cost me $15 more to put the glass in. I bought the mats to cut myself and i order them off the net. I destory the first six just learning to cut and still sometimes I cut it backwards. I can still use the mat but I have to paint it to cover the pen marks I use as a guide to cut the hole. Plus I do it because at the story they will cut it to cover a halve inch around the photo. To me that a lot . I can cut it to cover 1/8 inch around the photo. Hope you learn some here and hope you get the mats and frams better so you can win. thanks for looking and reading and learning