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Subject: Weird V4 contortions in Carrar


DocMatter ( ) posted Fri, 13 June 2008 at 11:25 PM · edited Fri, 10 July 2026 at 2:51 AM

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I've noticed that when I use V4 in Carrara, some of the poses cause her shoulders to do bizarre things that they don't do in Poser.  The image on the left is V4 in Poser 6 and the image on the right is the exact same figure in the exact same pose in Carrara.  Note the shoulders. Does this happen to anyone else?


jt411 ( ) posted Sat, 14 June 2008 at 12:29 AM

Yeah, something is definitely wrong here...
If you're using the Native Import make sure you have "convert skinning" unchecked.


DocMatter ( ) posted Sat, 14 June 2008 at 12:49 AM

It was unchecked.  I checked.  ;)


dorelia ( ) posted Sat, 14 June 2008 at 5:30 AM · edited Sat, 14 June 2008 at 5:44 AM

I have the same problem. It is caused by constraints. As soon as I disable "use constraints" V4's shoulder distorts when bend.

Edit: same happens with her rThigh and lThigh


GKDantas ( ) posted Sat, 14 June 2008 at 6:37 AM

You have the latest Carrara version? 6.2.1?

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Sueposer ( ) posted Sat, 14 June 2008 at 10:18 AM

When I bring in a character, I change the joint constraints from "Full" to "ball joint".  The settings then are reasonable, but if further tweaking is needed, limits can be set on how far the joint will rotate. It has to be done for each joint individually.
Ball joint is not just for hips! It tells Carrara that the bones rotate, not stretch out of joint.
You can save a figure in the browser with the constraints modified, to save time in future when importing characters.


dorelia ( ) posted Sun, 15 June 2008 at 8:22 AM

I have the latest Version of Carrara, but it did happen with 6.2. too. I'm not sure if it is meant this way because I'm still learning how to use Carrara and I found and used the constraints button first with version 6.2 when I noticed, that the universal manipulator on different body parts did not work like I expected.

Thank you Sueposer. Stupid me, I did not think of changing the limits or the type of constraints :blushing:


DocMatter ( ) posted Mon, 16 June 2008 at 1:15 PM

Thanks from me too, Sueposer.  I'm next to clueless when it comes to working with the types of constraints, but I'll monkey around with the settings and see what I can do.
Thanks again.

BTW... I also have the latest version  6.2.1.


ninhalo5 ( ) posted Sun, 31 January 2010 at 8:02 PM

Hi, I'm using version 7 and am having the same sort of problems.
I've changed the constraints and when I move the figure by hand the shoulders look great.
but If I apply one of the stock general poses the badly liposuctioned arm comes back.

This almost sounds like a limits issue, how would I go about correcting this?
I don't seem to have a limits dialog box when applying the pose only when importing the figure.


Connatic ( ) posted Mon, 01 February 2010 at 8:27 AM

 Set the "Deformers/Base" setting strength to "-1" and the shoulders will behave like they do in Poser.  It's a slider in the "Attributes Set/General."


ninhalo5 ( ) posted Mon, 01 February 2010 at 11:57 AM

Worked great, thanks!!


ninhalo5 ( ) posted Mon, 01 February 2010 at 1:42 PM

Quote -
You can save a figure in the browser with the constraints modified, to save time in future when importing characters.

Is this re-saving the pz3 file or saving it as a .car file?
I can't seem to figure out how to save anything in the browser, it seems locked.
No drag /drop no right clicking or middle mouse button clicking.
If I try using the save function pz3 is not among the extentions of course.

thanks again


jt411 ( ) posted Mon, 01 February 2010 at 3:04 PM

2 options here:

  1. You can save the figure to your browser by dragging the collapsed figure name from your properties tray to the Carrara browser in the Objects>My Objects section. This way you'll be able to drag and drop the figure into any Carrara scene you're working on.
  2. Just save the file. You can then import the .CAR file into any new scene.

Both methods actually save the file in Carrara's format; dragging the figure into your browser makes life a little easier :)
You may need to make sure that your Poser Runtimes are attached to Carrara's content browser; just to avoid any missing files if your figure is using texture maps from other vendors; that kinda thing.


ninhalo5 ( ) posted Mon, 01 February 2010 at 7:09 PM

Ok I got it.
I was trying to save under the content tab which was locked.
V4 saved to "my objects" without a problem
Thanks


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