Thirty-four years ago someone asked me when a carbon fiber commercial airliner would go into service for the first time. In some ways, this was a surprise question because the big expectation fifty years ago was for a boron fiber airplane fuselage. There are few tipoffs that his character is advanced technology in the airliner alone. There is no start cart for bleed air. There are no winglets. The wing tips are sweeping gracefully up, Liebeck related, off the MD-11. Liebeck became a friend of Russ Schleeh who was with the 8th Air force during WW-11 but I met him through A-4 aerodynamic performance when he was working on the blown flaps on the Advanced Medium STOL Transport (AMST). That might help to understand the British Airways livery. Looking at the nose where a DC-8 had turbo-compressor inlets there is no hint. Equally, above the engines on the pylons as Boeing did on the 707, no turbo-compressor inlets for environmental control. The windows are bigger, but at first that is not obvious. The nose and cockpit area are a bit more droopy that typical 767 in wide body, or 707/720/727,757 in narrow body. There is no hump or second deck as with the 747. When I set up this trip I was only going to fly out and back non-stop and relish the cabin and ride. Getting back to the question. I answered, thirty years, based on the sparse evidence of carbon fiber panel development outside the military and the questioner countered with I expected, ten. This was taken with my new smart phone with ability to connect in UK that replaced a simple clamshell phone I bought in 2009 to go to the Harley-Davidson museum on the Amtrak train. I wanted an Iridium satellite phone but my sister downgraded me to a Droid. I coulda been connected in Big Bend in the desert!!