Okay...I like this one a whoooooooooole lot better. The lighting is a lot better, it doesn't look so half-assed and overall I think I painted her shoulders better in this one. And Carol - I also took into consideration what you said about the dress, does this look better? It's so hard to get the black to look right in that lighting *laughs* Generally speaking, I like this a whole lot more than the first one, so I'm happy. And considering the only reason I made it was to print it and put it up on my wall in replacement of the $45 painting that I wanted but couldn't get...it's not too bad. XD Tech specs: figure posed in Poser, new skin painted over it, all definition was painted, hair was painted, dress was painted. Shawl was from Touch Of Goth by Ilona and Bez, absolutely EXQUISITE pack (got it for 48 cents thanks to a leftover gift certificate and the sale LOL), I can't wait to make more with it. You make wonderful stuff, guys, keep up the good work. Now it's way later than it should be, I should be in bed because I have to call a manager back tomorrow morning...which is like...five hours away...*laughs*... So I'm gonna head off to bed now. I just HAD to finish this, it was really bugging me *blush* Thanks for the help, y'all, the advice really helped. =) Thanks for viewing, comments welcome as always.