I just got done rendering this. It tok 6 hours at Normal Anti-Aliasing, but it looks , so I'm happy. If anyone wants to learn how to make waves like this with symmetrical lattices, I'd be glad to teach you how. I do it using Illustrator, Photoshop, and Kai Power Tools-Gradient Designer. If anyone wnts to know how, let me know. I'm starting to like Bryce 5, and the interface doesn't bother me. kaom