I'm totally confused with the render setting for Bryce 5, there are a lot of variables that can have a big effect on render times.How many rays per pixel will give good results without lilling the render times?And what about the Optimization options?I'm rendering a pure liquid wave scen right now and it's only 5000 pixels wide and it's been going for 15 hours, with no sign of being done anytime soon. Does antone out there have the answers? What settings will give the best middle groud renders? Any info will be appreciated. kaom