I took Erics' advice, and rendered these huge for maximum quality. I want the absolute best quality, and did this test. Hopfully we can figure out the best way. I can't decide which one gives the best results. Which one do you guys think looks better? let me know, what you think. Thanks for the advice Eric(@Digital Carvers Guild).Hybrid or regular Raytracer? The search goes on. I lookforward to your responses. Thanks Kaom