Yay, sounds good. Anyway, thought I might start a general thread.

Regarding my questions:

Can it wait until October/November? I'm a little busy now.
Will it overwrite my preferred start scene? (will it overwrite anything of my preferred state?)
I have an air-gapped setup (offline). Can I do it offline? (or after going online, can I go back offline without any drama?)
extra: can we skip the extra content? I have most of it already.

"The fool is not the one that does something foolish, but the one that does nothing at all."

In addition to the above questions, I have one:

About this new Download Manager... I already have the Smith Micro Download Manager installed. Do I need to uninstall the old one, or can I use it to patch, or will the new one update the old one, or...?

The email that was sent out is extremely vague about all of this.

Second question I can answer. The new install should uninstall your older version, however, your preferences will remain intact. So make sure when you install the version build, select keep your preferences or else you will be back to the familiar factory default.
Don't skimp on the extra content. There is quite a number of new additions and Superfly shaders which may become useful in the future.

It sounds like it will override your preferred setup scene.

The new La Femme figure will be the first thing Poser users see when they open Poser 11.2. The "safe for work" version will come free with Poser while La Femme Pro, which is anatomically correct and compatible with HD morphs, can be purchased in the Renderosity Marketplace.

So save your setup scene before you upgrade.

Doc000 posted at 1:14PM Mon, 16 September 2019 - #4362127

In addition to the above questions, I have one:

About this new Download Manager... I already have the Smith Micro Download Manager installed. Do I need to uninstall the old one, or can I use it to patch, or will the new one update the old one, or...?

The email that was sent out is extremely vague about all of this.

The new Download Manager will override the older version, however, the SMDM is only showing my last update before installing the Renderosity build. As to whether this will change in the future, I don't know. I know this was offered as a way to restore Poser 11 to the version before 11.2.

randym77 posted at 1:19PM Mon, 16 September 2019 - #4362130

It sounds like it will override your preferred setup scene.

The new La Femme figure will be the first thing Poser users see when they open Poser 11.2. The "safe for work" version will come free with Poser while La Femme Pro, which is anatomically correct and compatible with HD morphs, can be purchased in the Renderosity Marketplace.

Nope. I've already installed several builds and as long as you select retain your settings, you should be back to the way you set Poser up.

I don't know what 11.2 will do, but when I recently upgraded my 11.0.7.x to 11.1.1.x, I found the option to save my preferred settings already checked, so there shouldn't be a problem retaining them.

That said, I'm also planning on saving the following files before updating:

LibraryPrefs.xml

LibraryState.xml

Poser UI PrefMap.xml

Poser UI Prefs_1600x900.xml (my monitor size, yours may vary)

Poser.ini

preferredState.pz3

On a Windows computer, these can be found at C: Users YourName AppData Roaming Poser Pro 11

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Thanks for the answers everyone.

I just hope it doesn't demand that I go online every three weeks. I set up my permanent licenses with the SM server a while back and I hope to keep it that way. I prefer keeping my system offline.

On the other hand, I do have another question. I skipped 11.1 because:

it stopped me from being able to copy keyframes over from a second instance of Poser (PP2014) due to the added data of the categories (I tend to copy over keyframes a lot between two running Posers due to upgrading of my base figures)
retrograding to SR8 seemed to fail and I had to re-install Poser 11 entirely because of it.

Now I will have to upgrade at some point I think, but can it wait? and how long? Can I upgrade from sr8 next year when I have time?

"The fool is not the one that does something foolish, but the one that does nothing at all."

I too would like to know what the deal is for those of us who keep our working computers offline

What are the eligibility requirements for the Poser 11.2 update. I have Poser 10. Am I able to get the Poser 11.2 update? What is the cost?!

ronaldknights posted at 4:27PM Mon, 16 September 2019 - #4362170

What are the eligibility requirements for the Poser 11.2 update. I have Poser 10. Am I able to get the Poser 11.2 update? What is the cost?!

You need to be a registered user of Poser Pro 11. You need to update Poser 10 here: https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/poser-pro-11-upgrade-from-poser-10-9-8-7-6-or-poser-debut/112661/

dreamweever posted at 4:55PM Mon, 16 September 2019 - #4362166

I too would like to know what the deal is for those of us who keep our working computers offline

If you use Poser 11, or Poser Pro 11 and have a permanent activation, I would update anyway. You get any benefits and you'll no longer need the permanent activation, so nothing will change for you there.

I don't have all the answers, but I have some:

-I've uninstalled Poser completely (from my Windows Programs and Features tab, AND from allowing it to uninstall before I install the new version) several times between the many updates they have for us early adopters, including a couple of times that after uninstalling I went in and manually deleted the leftover Poser 11 folder and Poser 11 Content folder, and my preferences and preferred state are intact. As long as you don't go into where those preferences live in your User folder (or whatever it lives on a Mac), and when you install you ask it to keep using your existing preferences when it prompts you for that (like before, your options are to delete the preferences, to back up the preferences - which is the default if you just skip it - or to use the preferences), you're fine.

-On extra content: for now they're separate installers and I imagine they'll keep it that way, so you can simply not install those.

On what I'd imagine but can't say for sure:

-For your offline rig, I imagine you can simply download the installer on an online device, and take that to your offline device. I'm not sure how it validates your one-time Product Registration window though. You get a 21 day trial time, might be enough to set up some temporary web connection maybe.

-On waiting until november: well, it's an update. Pretty sure it'll be there waiting for you like usual updates.

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Afrodite-Ohki posted at 4:21PM Mon, 16 September 2019 - #4362180

-On waiting until november: well, it's an update. Pretty sure it'll be there waiting for you like usual updates.

The thing is...the Rosity email that went out today says:

If you do not update, your Poser may not work if you have a version above Poser 10 because the licensing system will not be able to complete the over-the-internet check needed to confirm your license key.

If you want your Poser to continue to work properly, you must update.

Though I guess that wouldn't apply if to a version that's not connected to the Internet at all.

My question is probably pretty basic, so apologies, but...

We're updating to 11.2, but when I open the download manager, it takes me to a list that's all marked 11.1.________. Am I missing something here? On a Mac, so have those files not been updated yet?

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I'll add that there are a number of somewhat confusing things in this version, but I"m sure I'll get used to them eventually. :-)

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SeanMartin posted at 4:49PM Mon, 16 September 2019 - #4362185

I'll add that there are a number of somewhat confusing things in this version, but I"m sure I'll get used to them eventually. :-)

I updated from Poser Pro 2014 to Poser Pro 11 some weeks ago. There are definitely some differences between the two, but it took no time to get adjusted to PP 11. I am still learning and experimenting with the new features. And having fun doing so! I love SuperFly, but still tend to use FireFly with the new area lights. I hope you love PP 11 as much as I am, Sean!

Also, I believe the update to 11.2 has been moved to the 19th. More testing time or inclusion of the HiveWire assets? I'm using 3 Macs here and am eagerly awaiting the new release and all the goodies that come with it.

Lee

@ Lee: Ah! I was under the impression that the update included all the new merch. I didnt realize it was coming on the 19th. Thanks for the heads up.

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How long will the $99 upgrade price for Poser (v10) last? I'm on a limited income. I can't put together that kind of money quickly.

The update itself also doesn't roll out until the 19th. Those of us speaking from experience are the ones in the Early Adopter program - we have 11.2.(something) for us to test. What everyone else will get on the 19th will be the final, stable build.

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SeanMartin posted at 5:53PM Mon, 16 September 2019 - #4362193

@ Lee: Ah! I was under the impression that the update included all the new merch. I didnt realize it was coming on the 19th. Thanks for the heads up.

@ Sean: The original target date for the 11.2 update was today, but they needed to push back the release by a few days. It will include the update from 11.1.x to 11.2 (with all the changes that entails) AND all the new content. It's very exciting news and I can't wait to get it all installed and start playing with everything! I can't wait to see what you do with PP 11. Always a fan!

Lee

Asked this in another area but this one seems pretty active. I got the new Download manager & running it now. I've 11.1.1.35510 currently. There's both an Installer and Updater for 11.1.1.35540.

Should I just run the updater or the full Installer?

DocPhoton posted at 6:30PM Mon, 16 September 2019 - #4362207

Asked this in another area but this one seems pretty active. I got the new Download manager & running it now. I've 11.1.1.35510 currently. There's both an Installer and Updater for 11.1.1.35540.

Should I just run the updater or the full Installer?

No. 11.2 isn't out yet. It was delayed. The new expected date is the 19th.

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How much for 11.1 users?

KingNot posted at 8:55PM Mon, 16 September 2019 - #4362216

How much for 11.1 users?

The update will be free for all Poser PRO 11 users. Poser 11 standard edition has been phased out and only the Pro version will be available going forward. IF you are using Poser 11 Standard, you need to upgrade to Poser PRO 11 on the Renderosity marketplace.

If you are a current Poser 11 PRO user, the update will cost you nothing.

And what about users of Poser Pro 2014?

Glitterati3D posted at 12:18AM Tue, 17 September 2019 - #4362222

KingNot posted at 8:55PM Mon, 16 September 2019 - #4362216

How much for 11.1 users?

The update will be free for all Poser PRO 11 users. Poser 11 standard edition has been phased out and only the Pro version will be available going forward. IF you are using Poser 11 Standard, you need to upgrade to Poser PRO 11 on the Renderosity marketplace.

If you are a current Poser 11 PRO user, the update will cost you nothing.

Does that mean Poser 11 Regular will stop working after sept 19th? Can't remember that was the deal when I bought it. And I do not have the money to update to Poser 11 Pro anytime soon...I can live without the extra content, but would be rather annoyed when a program that I officially bought stopped working altogether.

And forcing people to update is not a nice business strategy.....

According to an email I have just received, users of Poser Pro 2014, Poser 11, and Poser Pro 11 will receive the update free of charge. I have not received any information on how and when this free update will proceed, but apparently Bondware-Renderosity is not going to hold Poser loyalists to ransom (which is not to say that they aren't clumsy communicators).

contedesfees posted at 2:39AM Tue, 17 September 2019 - #4362245

According to an email I have just received, users of Poser Pro 2014, Poser 11, and Poser Pro 11 will receive the update free of charge. I have not received any information on how and when this free update will proceed, but apparently Bondware-Renderosity is not going to hold Poser loyalists to ransom (which is not to say that they aren't clumsy communicators).

They seem to somehow have an Issue with Poser 11 Standard. As it is not possible to upgrade directly from Standard 11 to Pro 11 via the Renderosity site, they have you jump through hoops for the upgrade. I guess some emergency solution after days of utter silence about the subject. And then there is this vagueness about who will and who will not have a working version of Poser as of Sept 19th. I can fully understand if P11 Standard users will not receive the extra content - but I do wish a functional program. And, as I mentioned: you will only have a working version of Poser if you buy the upgrade would not be a very sympathetic business strategy. (It can't be even that difficult; Poser 11 Standard and Pro always had the same installers; the difference was only in the license keys, that unlocked some extra functionality for Pro-buyers.)

thanks again for the answers!

I hope I didn't come across like a wet blanket. Its fantastic that there's movement with Poser, and the extra content is a great idea!

But I really hope it can wait. I'm sure I can but the email seemed a little resolute/insistent about upgrading. I'm in the middle of a very intense production that will hopefully be done by the end of this month, and then I'll immediately continue with another project until December (probably even more intense). I've always had bad experiences upgrading / changing up my system, especially because I have completely customized it. So I avoid tinkering with my system during projects as it can really delay me and screw up my muse (and I heavily depend on it for the style of comic I do). So if I can upgrade like next year January, that would work out better. I'd love to know what the official word on this is.

Also the offline thing is very important. I suspect it would just be a downloadable installer like the other SRs. That would be great.

"The fool is not the one that does something foolish, but the one that does nothing at all."

erogenesis posted at 5:35AM Tue, 17 September 2019 - #4362251

thanks again for the answers!

I hope I didn't come across like a wet blanket. Its fantastic that there's movement with Poser, and the extra content is a great idea!

But I really hope it can wait. I'm sure I can but the email seemed a little resolute/insistent about upgrading. I'm in the middle of a very intense production that will hopefully be done by the end of this month, and then I'll immediately continue with another project until December (probably even more intense). I've always had bad experiences upgrading / changing up my system, especially because I have completely customized it. So I avoid tinkering with my system during projects as it can really delay me and screw up my muse (and I heavily depend on it for the style of comic I do). So if I can upgrade like next year January, that would work out better. I'd love to know what the official word on this is.

Also the offline thing is very important. I suspect it would just be a downloadable installer like the other SRs. That would be great.

The problem you face is that your license is governed by Smith Micro's licensing agreement. Bondware wants to change that agreement to their new one. If you do NOT upgrade, yes your Poser may stop working if it can't phone home over the internet. If you continue to use Poser without upgrading, especially 'til January, you have no one to blame but yourself if it stops. Even if you do download the installer, if you don't install it, it will still stop. I suggest you take a hint from your sig line.

EClark1894 posted at 11:53AM Tue, 17 September 2019 - #4362252

erogenesis posted at 5:35AM Tue, 17 September 2019 - #4362251

The problem you face is that your license is governed by Smith Micro's licensing agreement. Bondware wants to change that agreement to their new one. If you do NOT upgrade, yes your Poser may stop working if it can't phone home over the internet. If you continue to use Poser without upgrading, especially 'til January, you have no one to blame but yourself if it stops. Even if you do download the installer, if you don't install it, it will still stop. I suggest you take a hint from your sig line.

I'm definitely not touching my systems until I am ready to do so. This is not a hobby for me.

My systems are offline anyway, so it never checks for upgrades (and the license is permanent). So my installations will continue indefinitely, unless I upgrade.

Can I not just download the executable and leave it on my drive until I have time to upgrade? And also, 11.1 does things differently with keyframing which is a problem for me. I'm pretty sure that's not been changed with 11.2. I've since adjusted my workflow but haven't tested it with 11.1 yet. That all takes time that I don't have. So I'm definitely going to be holding out until I have time to update all my scripts and workflow.

I'm also fine with re-installing if needed. I'm just not going to touch my systems any time soon. I'm pretty sure there is a 'window' that Bondware are giving to let you upgrade. I doubt we need to do it on exactly the 19th. I'd like to know about that window, if there's any.

It would be great to have the official word on this.

"The fool is not the one that does something foolish, but the one that does nothing at all."

Just curious, when someone buys poser 11 now, will they immediately get 11.2 or will they get the original install with 11.2 as an upgrade?

"The fool is not the one that does something foolish, but the one that does nothing at all."

Ero; I understand the the “permanent” license isn’t really. At some point it has to be renewed.

RobZhena posted at 2:34PM Tue, 17 September 2019 - #4362262

Ero; I understand the the “permanent” license isn’t really. At some point it has to be renewed.

Are you sure? I've been running Poser 11 across 6 computers (several licenses) for well over three years now without ever having to renew it (after making them permanent that is). Never had an issue, in fact when I re-installed SR8 from 11.1, think I didn't even have to activate it.

"The fool is not the one that does something foolish, but the one that does nothing at all."

There must be some misunderstanding. I emailed Bondware to be sure, I'll await their answer.

I think its only if you want to upgrade or if you're online, that you need this upgrade for your Poser version to carry on working, but I'm pretty sure that you can upgrade at any time in future. If not, then that's guaranteed to cause a LOT of drama. My reasons aside, what if people don't receive this email on time? What if they're on holiday? What if their PC is broken now? What if they're too busy with a baby? or other family issues at the moment? What about people that want to return to Poser next year? Just recently one of my fans on Deviant Art re-installed Poser after years of using DS. If he would have waited a few more months, would he have been screwed? I doubt that Bondware want that to happen.

In a professional setting, changing or upgrading your tools is something you plan for. Unreal developers of all people know this, as they can access all versions of Unreal engine at all times. Any power user of any software know that upgrades can severely disrupt things. Poser is not a novelty item like an iPhone, its a tool. I frequently still use Poser Pro 2014 because of some issues with PP11's firefly. I'll wait until October and then test 11.1. If it works for me, then I'll upgrade 11.2. If not, I'll take my chances until January.

I'll let you all know what Bondware replies, but I think it should be fine.

"The fool is not the one that does something foolish, but the one that does nothing at all."

Ero: I stand corrected. If you have only one installation of a permanent license, it is permanent. If you have additional installations, they have to renew.

I have two P11 licenses and PP2012, PP2014 + Game Dev. I run them all across 6 computers and I've firewalled them from the internal network so I can run them at the same time without licencing issues. (sorry, if I can run blender and DS 6 times without issues, I'm not going to feel guilty for running a $500 app more times than permitted. )

But yah, again, had no issues with activation in the last three years (and more)

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Before I download unnecessarily: Does 11.2 come with a compatible version of the Queue Manager for rendering nodes?

hudengnorf posted at 2:12PM Tue, 17 September 2019 - #4362301

Before I download unnecessarily: Does 11.2 come with a compatible version of the Queue Manager for rendering nodes?

Yes.

I tested network rendering almost every day the last month.

As did a couple of other testers with networks set up.

@hudengnorf, Yes, I've tested the 11.2 Queue Manager, though only on my limited network of two macs. None of the problems where Smith Micro failed to release a matching version of QM with a Poser update.

@erogenesis, I don't think you will be troubled with offline licensing issues, apart from my lack of understanding of how an initial registration will work with no net access. Please raise a ticket for the keyframe copying issues on Support (though I'm confident you'll have done that already) With sufficient details on the particular workflow that's an issue, it's possible beta testers can confirm and address/report that.

For others asking about the SM Download Manager, their licence servers will stop and that will, I expect, cease to function. New Poser 11.2 is being delivered as Installers at this time. Some content will likely be zip archives (and/or packages for mac folks), rather than installers.

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an0malaus posted at 10:44PM Tue, 17 September 2019 - #4362304

@erogenesis, I don't think you will be troubled with offline licensing issues, apart from my lack of understanding of how an initial registration will work with no net access.

Yes it looks like my thoughts on the matter are correct, in that I don't have anything to worry about. My offline installations (I made them permanent using the pgportal at SM, so they don't check in anymore) will obviously keep working until I wish to upgrade to 11.2. This will obviously require me to go online for a moment which is ok with me. I will pick up the downloadables on the 19th and keep them until I can risk the upgrade.

To be sure, I am just confirming with Bondware that their new version will operate independently from the SM servers and that I don't need to deactivate my license with SM first. I am assuming this should be fine too since its very likely they will have plenty of stragglers that would want to upgrade several months from now. In any case I would also assume that I'd have the right to just re-install the Rendo version of Poser with an SM license key.

However what I don't know is if the Bondware version will go back to the 'check-in' thing from before. I want to avoid that at all costs.

Please raise a ticket for the keyframe copying issues on Support (though I'm confident you'll have done that already) With sufficient details on the particular workflow that's an issue, it's possible beta testers can confirm and address/report that.

I doubt there'a any point in raising that ticket. The problem is that 11.1 has added a new data type in the keyframe string when you copy the keyframe, namely the category type. for some strange reason they chose to insert it between keytype and value, instead of appending it like with all database structures. this basically makes copy pasting between Poser versions completely useless since Poser gets confused with the order of the data. And I am pretty sure that I'm one of the few people that operates with two versions of Poser like this, so I doubt they will give a damn. I use it a lot because Poser doesn't work with instanced figures, and the replace figure feature doesn't work very well with custom figures, so I have to do the swap manually, and it works faster by opening the old scene in Poser 10 and then copying the keyframes over to Poser 11. I've since made a python script that extracts the keyframe data from an old scene without opening Poser, and it works pretty well. I can also just open a second instance of Poser on another machine and then just save the keyframe data in a notepad that I share across the LAN.

Its also a way for me to pose figures quickly in a lighter poser scene and then copying it over into a very big laggy scene. there are many advantages of being able to copy keyframes across. Hence me avoiding 11.1 all this time.

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contedesfees posted at 4:27PM Tue, 17 September 2019 - #4362245

According to an email I have just received, users of Poser Pro 2014, Poser 11, and Poser Pro 11 will receive the update free of charge. I have not received any information on how and when this free update will proceed, but apparently Bondware-Renderosity is not going to hold Poser loyalists to ransom (which is not to say that they aren't clumsy communicators).

I'll say. They're still selling the upgrade from Poser Pro 2014 in the RMP.

@erogenesis, I'd think it's probably worth raising the ticket, though perhaps with the added suggestion that future releases have a preference setting allowing that category information to be suppressed from the clipboard. A python script is certainly a useful workaround, though. I've certainly made plenty of use of pose animations copied to a text editor and even imported them into Excel to subject them to calculation munging and pasted them back into Poser via the text editor again. It's worth asking for workflow flexibility features, and at least one won't have to spend years blue in the face withholding one's breath waiting for any kind of response from SM, due to their being bound hand and foot in red tape and funding limitations. ;-)

@randym77 & @contedesfees, the valiant few who are grinding their noses off to get this release out are bound to miss a few niceties outside the narrow sphere of their current focus, but when the pressure slackens off for a moment, I'm sure you will have more answers and visible action from them. [Cue video of swans serenely swimming, while the camera pans underwater to the outboard motor-like thrashing of their feet]

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this surely sucks overall. I have P11 Standard and had no intention of Pro ... But now its either upgrade to pro or quite using Poser altogether, as the version will no longer work? way to go rendo losing half your customer base.

Glitterati3D posted at 7:30PM Tue, 17 September 2019 - #4362222

KingNot posted at 8:55PM Mon, 16 September 2019 - #4362216

How much for 11.1 users?

The update will be free for all Poser PRO 11 users. Poser 11 standard edition has been phased out and only the Pro version will be available going forward. IF you are using Poser 11 Standard, you need to upgrade to Poser PRO 11 on the Renderosity marketplace.

If you are a current Poser 11 PRO user, the update will cost you nothing.

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I have mixed feelings about this news. I still recall, many years ago there was a great debate about authentication. People were concerned that legal owners might not retain their authorizations if Poser got a new owner. Renderosity addressed that problem right away! Congratulations! I am pleased to see how quickly so many recognized names have joined forces with Bondware (Renderosity) to work on Poser Pro 2011.

Dave-So posted at 9:08PM Tue, 17 September 2019 - #4362339

this surely sucks overall. I have P11 Standard and had no intention of Pro ... But now its either upgrade to pro or quite using Poser altogether, as the version will no longer work? way to go rendo losing half your customer base.

But the upgrade is free. They've taken the upgrade from P11 standard to Pro out of the store, because the upgrade will be free.

It does suck for people who just bought the upgrade, I guess, if they didn't give refunds. But it sounds like a lot of people will be getting free upgrades. Everyone using Poser Pro 2014 and Poser 11.

I am not quite understanding why a free upgrade to a program with more options would result in people quitting using Poser. What feature would be so negatively received or offensive? Honestly curious, myself.

Rhia474 posted at 9:59PM Tue, 17 September 2019 - #4362350

I am not quite understanding why a free upgrade to a program with more options would result in people quitting using Poser. What feature would be so negatively received or offensive? Honestly curious, myself.

i have not seen official word that it is free...what i was referring to is what i quoted, that we had to upgrade to pro or our older stuff would not work any longer. i used standsard as i didnt want to buy pro...still dont, but if thats the only product, what choice is there?

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Dave-So posted at 10:16PM Tue, 17 September 2019 - #4362353

Rhia474 posted at 9:59PM Tue, 17 September 2019 - #4362350

I am not quite understanding why a free upgrade to a program with more options would result in people quitting using Poser. What feature would be so negatively received or offensive? Honestly curious, myself.

i have not seen official word that it is free...what i was referring to is what i quoted, that we had to upgrade to pro or our older stuff would not work any longer. i used standsard as i didnt want to buy pro...still dont, but if thats the only product, what choice is there?

It's free, at least for you. Look at the store. There's upgrades for lower versions of Poser still for sale, but the upgrade from Poser 11 to Pro is gone.

There is the issue that as far as I know Poser 11 Standard is 32 bit whereas Pro is 64 bit - please correct me if I am wrong. Some people may still be using 32 bit machines.

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Glitterati3D posted at 7:43AM Wed, 18 September 2019 - #4362302

hudengnorf posted at 2:12PM Tue, 17 September 2019 - #4362301

Before I download unnecessarily: Does 11.2 come with a compatible version of the Queue Manager for rendering nodes?

Yes.

I tested network rendering almost every day the last month.

As did a couple of other testers with networks set up.

Fantastic to hear! ? Thank you.

Poser 11 Standard is the first non-Pro version to be 64 bit. You had the option to use 32 or 64 bit or both if you had the Pro versions.

I would really like to know where it has been said by Smith Micro they are turning off their activation server? Since that server is also used by MoHo which is a program SM is still selling and supporting it will really come as a big surprise to a lot of MoHo users as there is no mention of this at Lost Marble the MoHo web site. Also since when has Poser Pro 2014 needed the activation server? Since I run a site license of 14 copies at the College I work at it would be really nice to have been sent an e-mail saying that it is going to stop working. And has been said by Jenn in another thread they (Bondware) only has Poser 11 and none of the other versions or their updates.

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Richard60 posted at 12:33AM Wed, 18 September 2019 - #4362364

Poser 11 Standard is the first non-Pro version to be 64 bit. You had the option to use 32 or 64 bit or both if you had the Pro versions.

I would really like to know where it has been said by Smith Micro they are turning off their activation server? Since that server is also used by MoHo which is a program SM is still selling and supporting it will really come as a big surprise to a lot of MoHo users as there is no mention of this at Lost Marble the MoHo web site. Also since when has Poser Pro 2014 needed the activation server? Since I run a site license of 14 copies at the College I work at it would be really nice to have been sent an e-mail saying that it is going to stop working. And has been said by Jenn in another thread they (Bondware) only has Poser 11 and none of the other versions or their updates.

A long time ago I was an Engineering Technician. With the other Techs, we were a tight group and traded information as needed to finish our tasks. One of the members of our group got another job within the company. I went to him with an issue about an integrated circuit that he had worked on the previous week. He gave me a blank look and said, "Rob, I don't know anything about that chip."

He knew everything about that chip.

The point was, he was in a different job and no longer was ALLOWED to give help on his previous posting. My point is now that Poser is Renderosity property, anything done by SM regarding Poser is purely a transitional courtesy. The day they sold it, unless there is a written agreement, they can give you a blank look and say, "I don't know anything about this Poser you speak of." Right now, the old forum is gone, and soon everything will be gone. It would be nice if SM had sent out an email regarding everything and to thank us for the fish but as far I know (AFAIK) SM has sent out nothing.

As far I know, Only Poser Pro 14 Game Developer needed an activation server. Correction needed if possible.

quietrob posted at 5:10AM Wed, 18 September 2019 - #4362367 Right now, the old forum is gone, and soon everything will be gone. It would be nice if SM had sent out an email regarding everything and to thank us for the fish but as far I know (AFAIK) SM has sent out nothing.

As far I know, Only Poser Pro 14 Game Developer needed an activation server. Correction needed if possible.

Actually, the Poser forum is still there, and you can read through it... for now. As far as I know, you just can't post. At least I can't because Content Paradise was part of my login info, and THAT's gone.

Verified. Thanks Earl. You can access the forum. For now. Indeed, no posting so like my old workmate said, "I don't know nothing about this Poser." (paraphrase)

Richard60 posted at 5:44AM Wed, 18 September 2019 - #4362364

I would really like to know where it has been said by Smith Micro they are turning off their activation server? Since that server is also used by MoHo which is a program SM is still selling and supporting it will really come as a big surprise to a lot of MoHo users as there is no mention of this at Lost Marble the MoHo web site. Also since when has Poser Pro 2014 needed the activation server? Since I run a site license of 14 copies at the College I work at it would be really nice to have been sent an e-mail saying that it is going to stop working. And has been said by Jenn in another thread they (Bondware) only has Poser 11 and none of the other versions or their updates.

I think when people say they're turning off the server, they just mean Poser will no longer be on it. SM has other software which will still use the old activation server, I presume.

someone said they got an email about all this upgrading and stuff. I've been here since day 1... have no email. There is nothing official that I can see about buying or getting free upgrade for P11 standard users to Pro 11.2. there is the early adapter program, which i signed up for, but it would not install and I have no time for messing with it. What i see in the store is the upgrade to Pro 11 for $99. That's at https://www.posersoftware.com/. The Poser 11 Pro product here at Renderosity has never had Poser 11 standard listed as one of the products you could upgrade from. It will upgrade though. I tried it a couple of times..just need to input your serial number.

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Dave-So posted at 8:44AM Wed, 18 September 2019 - #4362387

someone said they got an email about all this upgrading and stuff. I've been here since day 1... have no email. There is nothing official that I can see about buying or getting free upgrade for P11 standard users to Pro 11.2. there is the early adapter program, which i signed up for, but it would not install and I have no time for messing with it. What i see in the store is the upgrade to Pro 11 for $99. That's at https://www.posersoftware.com/. The Poser 11 Pro product here at Renderosity has never had Poser 11 standard listed as one of the products you could upgrade from. It will upgrade though. I tried it a couple of times..just need to input your serial number.

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samsiahaija posted at 9:20AM Wed, 18 September 2019 - #4362237

And forcing people to update is not a nice business strategy.....

Well...

Let's look at this from another angle: Microsoft no longer supports a lot of the stuff they used to which required remote DRM (for example, if you still have a Zune full of MSFT Store-purchased tunes, or a Sidekick that still worked and had your text history on it, I'd be genuinely surprised.) They stopped supporting Windows 8 awhile back (though if you shelled out a zillion ducats for an Enterprise License Agreement with them, you get some support for it until July 2020)... and don't even ask about Windows 7, Vista, or XP.

I'm not known for Poser apologia, but let's be fair: Rendo/Bondware didn't make or sell anything older than Poser 11, nor (IMHO) should it be responsible (evne on an ethical level) for anything beyond providing perma-licensing patches where reasonable (or a patch to just remove the stupid DRM on the older stuff), and maybe provide any urgent/critical security patches for perhaps one version back or so.

If the software is more than 2-3 years old, nobody owes you anything, unfortunately.

Penguinisto posted at 12:17PM Wed, 18 September 2019 - #4362420

samsiahaija posted at 9:20AM Wed, 18 September 2019 - #4362237

And forcing people to update is not a nice business strategy.....

Well...

Let's look at this from another angle: Microsoft no longer supports a lot of the stuff they used to which required remote DRM (for example, if you still have a Zune full of MSFT Store-purchased tunes, or a Sidekick that still worked and had your text history on it, I'd be genuinely surprised.) They stopped supporting Windows 8 awhile back (though if you shelled out a zillion ducats for an Enterprise License Agreement with them, you get some support for it until July 2020)... and don't even ask about Windows 7, Vista, or XP.

I'm not known for Poser apologia, but let's be fair: Rendo/Bondware didn't make or sell anything older than Poser 11, nor (IMHO) should it be responsible (evne on an ethical level) for anything beyond providing perma-licensing patches where reasonable (or a patch to just remove the stupid DRM on the older stuff), and maybe provide any urgent/critical security patches for perhaps one version back or so.

If the software is more than 2-3 years old, nobody owes you anything, unfortunately.

I have Poser 11 Standard. Quite current. No less current than 11 Pro. The same installers as Poser 11 Pro, only with some functionality switched off. I'd consider it odd when they pull the plug. Even my Poser 7, 6, 5 and 4 are still running. Anyway, I'm low on money. I'd have to save until Christmas to afford the upgrade to Pro and spend nothing on content for that period. I'd have to reconsider if that's the way to go.

I'm a Poser 11.2 Early Adopter (from SM's P11 Pro upgrade from PP2012), once I download the update tomorrow, do I need to uninstall SM's version including the beta (Early Adopter) and install the update or do I just install over the old one? I hope this can be understood.

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Well, well, well, suddenly we have 3 avowed DS users, one who just upgraded his entire system to use DS, concern trolling this forum.

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jartz posted at 3:33PM Wed, 18 September 2019 - #4362432

I'm a Poser 11.2 Early Adopter (from SM's P11 Pro upgrade from PP2012), once I download the update tomorrow, do I need to uninstall SM's version including the beta (Early Adopter) and install the update or do I just install over the old one? I hope this can be understood.

Jartz, the only thing you need to do is install tomorrow's update to your system. Once that is done, you will be disconnected from SM forever.

Your Poser Pro 11 will be updated, and your PP2012 will work the same as it always has.

I'm on Poser 2014. Is today more or less going to be my last day with that?

MKDAWUSS posted at 3:48PM Wed, 18 September 2019 - #4362438

I'm on Poser 2014. Is today more or less going to be my last day with that?

Did you upgrade to Poser Pro 2014 Game Developer?

If not, then, none of this affects you at all. POSER PRO 2014 (NOT GAME DEV) WILL WORK AS IT ALWAYS HAS.

Glitterati3D posted at 3:02PM Wed, 18 September 2019 - #4362437

jartz posted at 3:33PM Wed, 18 September 2019 - #4362432

I'm a Poser 11.2 Early Adopter (from SM's P11 Pro upgrade from PP2012), once I download the update tomorrow, do I need to uninstall SM's version including the beta (Early Adopter) and install the update or do I just install over the old one? I hope this can be understood.

Jartz, the only thing you need to do is install tomorrow's update to your system. Once that is done, you will be disconnected from SM forever.

Your Poser Pro 11 will be updated, and your PP2012 will work the same as it always has.

Thanks, Glitterati for the info. I'm not running PP2012, as I just run only PP11 Pro on one machine.

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an0malaus posted at 10:21PM Wed, 18 September 2019 - #4362332

@erogenesis, I'd think it's probably worth raising the ticket, though perhaps with the added suggestion that future releases have a preference setting allowing that category information to be suppressed from the clipboard. A python script is certainly a useful workaround, though. I've certainly made plenty of use of pose animations copied to a text editor and even imported them into Excel to subject them to calculation munging and pasted them back into Poser via the text editor again. It's worth asking for workflow flexibility features, and at least one won't have to spend years blue in the face withholding one's breath waiting for any kind of response from SM, due to their being bound hand and foot in red tape and funding limitations. ;-)

I'll think about it. I first wanna see how Bondware tackle Poser before I wear myself out again with all this stuff. As you know, there's a LOT I can suggest (and have suggested over the years) but I have the feeling pissed off too many people here with my big mouth for me to think that I'd be taken seriously ever again Which is just as well because I need to work VERY hard on my comics for the next few years anyway. Never-the-less I look forward to what Bondware might be able to do for Poser. Their recent email gives me the feeling they're a little more proactive than Smith Micro, but that might be too early to really tell. I am very curious, in any case.

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samsiahaija posted at 9:33PM Wed, 18 September 2019 - #4362422

I have Poser 11 Standard ... Anyway, I'm low on money. I'd have to save until Christmas to afford the upgrade to Pro and spend nothing on content for that period. I'd have to reconsider if that's the way to go.

Anyone who has Poser 11 gets the 11.2 update for free. That means you get the Pro features and new content for free. Happy Christmas ;)

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caisson posted at 3:54PM Wed, 18 September 2019 - #4362450

samsiahaija posted at 9:33PM Wed, 18 September 2019 - #4362422

I have Poser 11 Standard ... Anyway, I'm low on money. I'd have to save until Christmas to afford the upgrade to Pro and spend nothing on content for that period. I'd have to reconsider if that's the way to go.

Anyone who has Poser 11 gets the 11.2 update for free. That means you get the Pro features and new content for free. Happy Christmas ;)

Just received an official email confirming this. Even P14 Game Dev owners are being given this courtesy- What remains to be said is a big thank you to Renderosity.!!! And a Happy New Year! :)

samsiahaija posted at 11:40PM Wed, 18 September 2019 - #4362452

Just received an official email confirming this. Even P14 Game Dev owners are being given this courtesy- What remains to be said is a big thank you to Renderosity.!!! And a Happy New Year! :)

WHAT???? Even Game Dev upgrades to P11.2?????

Does that mean I'll basically get an extra p11 license free??

"The fool is not the one that does something foolish, but the one that does nothing at all."

erogenesis posted at 4:58PM Wed, 18 September 2019 - #4362465

samsiahaija posted at 11:40PM Wed, 18 September 2019 - #4362452

Just received an official email confirming this. Even P14 Game Dev owners are being given this courtesy- What remains to be said is a big thank you to Renderosity.!!! And a Happy New Year! :)

WHAT???? Even Game Dev upgrades to P11.2?????

Does that mean I'll basically get an extra p11 license free??

Yes. But your P14 Game Dev will no longer be able to call and reach Smith Micro and will stop working shortly.

samsiahaija posted at 12:06AM Thu, 19 September 2019 - #4362466

Yes.

But your P14 Game Dev will no longer be able to call and reach Smith Micro and will stop working shortly.

Not entirely, from what I understood from Bondware. If your copy 'checks in', yes it will stop working at some point (like after the grace period). If you however set it to permanent (and doesn't check in anymore), it will carry on working regardless. Now I'm not sure if your system is online if it checks anyway, but my systems are offline, so I'll be fine. (When the time comes, I will temporarily have to go online to upgrade to 11.2 of course)

Beyond that, from what I understood, I can download the upgrade and as long as my serial checks out, the upgrade will work. I'm assuming that rendo/Bondware have all my license info independent from SM.

"The fool is not the one that does something foolish, but the one that does nothing at all."

erogenesis posted at 5:14PM Wed, 18 September 2019 - #4362468

samsiahaija posted at 12:06AM Thu, 19 September 2019 - #4362466

Yes.

But your P14 Game Dev will no longer be able to call and reach Smith Micro and will stop working shortly.

Not entirely, from what I understood from Bondware. If your copy 'checks in', yes it will stop working at some point (like after the grace period). If you however set it to permanent (and doesn't check in anymore), it will carry on working regardless. Now I'm not sure if your system is online if it checks anyway, but my systems are offline, so I'll be fine. (When the time comes, I will temporarily have to go online to upgrade to 11.2 of course)

Beyond that, from what I understood, I can download the upgrade and as long as my serial checks out, the upgrade will work. I'm assuming that rendo/Bondware have all my license info independent from SM.

I'm just a hobbyist and mostly online: And quite oblivious to what Poser 11 does in the background. I'm just happy I'll keep a running Poser 11. Recently bought a copy of your ProjectE, still need to play with it, and she won't work in Poser 7..... (Thanks for the nice clothing freebies)

Can someone please tell me if Poser 11.2 comes with a permanent license or not?

BTW i found this in the PoserSupport.pkg i just downloaded from www.posersoftware.com/downloads :

INSTALLER_TEMP_DATA="/tmp/com.smithmicro.poserInstallerData";

Thought this is a version from Rendo/Boundware why is there still “com.smithmicro” in the installer?

samsiahaija posted at 12:30AM Thu, 19 September 2019 - #4362469

I'm just a hobbyist and mostly online: And quite oblivious to what Poser 11 does in the background. I'm just happy I'll keep a running Poser 11. Recently bought a copy of your ProjectE, still need to play with it, and she won't work in Poser 7..... (Thanks for the nice clothing freebies)

You're more than welcome. Cheers for getting PE! I hope I can continue doing something fun for her some time soon. I do have plans but I'm keeping my mouth shut until I have something!

PS: I know a LOT about Poser, but I'm also still oblivious to what Poser 11 does in the background sometimes lol

Nagra_00_ posted at 12:34AM Thu, 19 September 2019 - #4362470

Can someone please tell me if Poser 11.2 comes with a permanent license or not?

If you're talking about a permanent license as in that Poser doesn't need to be online (or doesn't 'check in'), I just heard from someone that this is possible, but I don't have the official source.

"The fool is not the one that does something foolish, but the one that does nothing at all."

erogenesis posted at 12:47AM Thu, 19 September 2019 - #4362474

If you're talking about a permanent license as in that Poser doesn't need to be online (or doesn't 'check in'), I just heard from someone that this is possible, but I don't have the official source.

I see, default behaviour is periodical license re-validation. So i have to postpone my installation until an official statement on how to make my license permanent.

Nagra_00_ posted at 1:34AM Thu, 19 September 2019 - #4362481

erogenesis posted at 12:47AM Thu, 19 September 2019 - #4362474

If you're talking about a permanent license as in that Poser doesn't need to be online (or doesn't 'check in'), I just heard from someone that this is possible, but I don't have the official source.

I see, default behaviour is periodical license re-validation. So i have to postpone my installation until an official statement on how to make my license permanent.

I'll follow it up for you, as its also quite a big deal for me, but it is possible, thank goodness.

"The fool is not the one that does something foolish, but the one that does nothing at all."

erogenesis posted at 1:46AM Thu, 19 September 2019 - #4362493

I'll follow it up for you, as its also quite a big deal for me, but it is possible, thank goodness.

Thank you but no need from my side ATM. I gave 11.2 a try and after 10-15 minutes of playing with it i reverted back to an older 11.1 version. On my Mac this version performs even worse than the lasted 11.1, sorry but thats how it is.

Okay, I'm sick and obviously delirious, so excuse me if this is a bit of ramble. I downloaded the update without reading all this stuff, so clearly I'm feverish, but it seeeeeeeems to have worked out okay. Correct me if I'm wrong, but even though I had Poser 11.1 Standard, I now have Poser Pro 11.2. So far, so good. It seems to have automatically recognized my license and everything. A quick look around suggests that this update/upgrade has addressed a pretty big fraction of the issues I had with Poser. Don't know about limitations with the render engines yet, but I like the content and some of the Pro features I didn't have before. So, yay! I'm not clear on what has been done with the library- it seems to have kept stuff that I saved in Poser 11 Content before I knew better, and stuff I saved in the Downloads file, but ditched the library I made myself. I mean, it still exists, but Poser isn't seeing it anymore. It also made all the interface elements microscopically small. Other than that, it seems like a very smooth transition with a lot of benefits. So, good job, Bondware. I'm finding a lot of the back-and-forth about licenses confusing, so I hope I'm not missing something that's going to bite me in the @ss, but what I've messed with so far seems to work. And La Femme has hair! OMG.

Thanks for the report. I've downloaded the update but am waiting for other guinea pigs to go first before installing it. ;-)

You should be able to fix the microscopic text on the Interface tab in Edit -> General Preferences. I have a high res monitor and old eyes, so my UI Scale is set to 2.0.

You should be able to add your missing Runtime back, too, the way you would add any Runtime.

Do I need to install a new "Poser Download Manager" software, since Bondware is now the new owner of Poser and not Smith Micro anymore?

GhostWolf posted at 7:39AM Thu, 19 September 2019 - #4362570

Do I need to install a new "Poser Download Manager" software, since Bondware is now the new owner of Poser and not Smith Micro anymore?

No.

I installed this last night along with the new content, however, I don't see Dawn, Dusk, or the new horse. La Feme is there a bunch of other new stuff, but not Dawn, Dusk, or the Horse. ????

tkdrobert posted at 2:23PM Thu, 19 September 2019 - #4362593

I installed this last night along with the new content, however, I don't see Dawn, Dusk, or the new horse. La Feme is there a bunch of other new stuff, but not Dawn, Dusk, or the Horse. ???? Check again. Now it is.

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I know I am late to the party, but I only found out about all of this today.

I also do not want to install this update any time soon. For a long list of reasons that I do not wish to type here. Just please accept that I have very good reasons. I am in a similar position to Erogenesis, but I do not have a "permanent license". Whatever that is.

Do I have any other options besides upgrading? Or am I going to lose access to the software that is my only source of income as of today?

mr_phoenyxx posted at 5:25PM Thu, 19 September 2019 - #4362668

I know I am late to the party, but I only found out about all of this today.

I also do not want to install this update any time soon. For a long list of reasons that I do not wish to type here. Just please accept that I have very good reasons. I am in a similar position to Erogenesis, but I do not have a "permanent license". Whatever that is.

Do I have any other options besides upgrading? Or am I going to lose access to the software that is my only source of income as of today?

Put in a ticket and explain your situation and they may help you out. https://support.posersoftware.com/portal/newticket

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ghostman posted at 9:39AM Thu, 19 September 2019 - #4362674

mr_phoenyxx posted at 5:25PM Thu, 19 September 2019 - #4362668

I know I am late to the party, but I only found out about all of this today.

I also do not want to install this update any time soon. For a long list of reasons that I do not wish to type here. Just please accept that I have very good reasons. I am in a similar position to Erogenesis, but I do not have a "permanent license". Whatever that is.

Do I have any other options besides upgrading? Or am I going to lose access to the software that is my only source of income as of today?

Put in a ticket and explain your situation and they may help you out. https://support.posersoftware.com/portal/newticket

Done. Thank you! :)

mr_phoenyxx posted at 5:53PM Thu, 19 September 2019 - #4362668

I know I am late to the party, but I only found out about all of this today.

I also do not want to install this update any time soon. For a long list of reasons that I do not wish to type here. Just please accept that I have very good reasons. I am in a similar position to Erogenesis, but I do not have a "permanent license". Whatever that is.

Do I have any other options besides upgrading? Or am I going to lose access to the software that is my only source of income as of today?

For the record I really do support Bondware/Rendo's upgrade, and if you can, definitely upgrade , but yes some of us might not be ready to upgrade just yet. An upgrade can change up a lot of things unexpectedly and is not recommended smack in the middle of a very intense project.

So for now I recommend you make your licenses permanent at SM while they're still up: https://pgportal.smithmicro.com/authentication/signin

Just fill in your license info and if you see this: Poser Pro License type: permanent License state: enabled then you're in business.

Then block Poser from accessing the internet using Advanced Firewall just to be sure. That way you can keep using Poser the way you wish until you're ready to upgrade to 11.2. Obviously, unblock Poser when you do this.

PS: if you by chance have to move your installation to another PC in the next month (you never know), if the SM server is still active you can unblock Poser, deactivate the license in Poser, and then install and activate on the other PC. Then go back to the pgportal and make permanent again. But that will only work if SM is still active.

I expect this should work... hopefully. This is the road I am taking for now, until I'm done with my comic end of this month / beginning of October.

"The fool is not the one that does something foolish, but the one that does nothing at all."

Does the links for the additional content work for anyone? I am getting 404's (or am I too early)

3doutlaw posted at 12:45PM Thu, 19 September 2019 - #4362685

Does the links for the additional content work for anyone? I am getting 404's (or am I too early)

I'm getting them too.

@3doutlaw: I downloaded all the content earlier today. Did it in batches of about 4 to 6 files at a time. All downloaded fine. Not sure if there's an issue now. Perhaps someone can chime in. I know I can get to the additional content page, but didn't try to start another download session. I hope it gets sorted out for you quickly!

OK, its just started working again, thanks!

I installed the upgrade today from poser 11 and noticed that it's now Bondware Poser Pro. It use to be just poser 11 does this mean I now have the means to render using my GPU?

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3doutlaw posted at 7:15PM Thu, 19 September 2019 - #4362689

OK, its just started working again, thanks!

I'm also struggling, but I'm pretty sure it will go up and down for a while. The traffic must be insane.

"The fool is not the one that does something foolish, but the one that does nothing at all."

I think I'll just wait a couple of days and save the bandwidth for others - my version is already non-SM anyway so I'm safe

I'm curious about the content from HW3d, but it can wait a couple of days.

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So, here's a very minor issue- my new serial# has seven "O"s in it, with no way to tell if they are zeroes or the letter O or a mix of both. Not a problem at the moment because it was dealt with automatically, but god forbid I should ever have to type it in somewhere. Does anyone know if these are zeroes or Os?

I guess if you really want to make sure to keep your 11.1 version working you can do so with a few simple steps

make a backup of your activated Licence go to C:-ProgramData-Poser-11 and backup this folder in case it gets corrupted or deactivated
go to C:-Windows-System32-drivers-etc there you will find the "hosts" file open it with a text editor
add that line on the bottom 127.0.0.1 my.nalpeiron.com then save the hosts file this will make sure that Poser will not call home and prevent the conflict of activation check same result as if you were offline the old version is setup to call the smith micro host and this method should make sure that poser will not cause an error when trying to call home and cant reach the host.

Like I said I assume that it will work and this way you may be able to keep your version as loong as you wish having it or until your projects are done without risc

HKHan99 posted at 8:16PM Thu, 19 September 2019 - #4362746

So, here's a very minor issue- my new serial# has seven "O"s in it, with no way to tell if they are zeroes or the letter O or a mix of both. Not a problem at the moment because it was dealt with automatically, but god forbid I should ever have to type it in somewhere. Does anyone know if these are zeroes or Os?

0's.

Zeroes. Poser serial codes always use zeroes.

Also, if you check your Product registration under the help menu, you'll find your serial number there. Just copy and paste.

EClark1894 posted at 11:53PM Thu, 19 September 2019 - #4362801

HKHan99 posted at 8:16PM Thu, 19 September 2019 - #4362746

So, here's a very minor issue- my new serial# has seven "O"s in it, with no way to tell if they are zeroes or the letter O or a mix of both. Not a problem at the moment because it was dealt with automatically, but god forbid I should ever have to type it in somewhere. Does anyone know if these are zeroes or Os?

0's.

Zeroes. Poser serial codes always use zeroes.

Also, if you check your Product registration under the help menu, you'll find your serial number there. Just copy and paste.

Thanks. I had a really long modem key once that used both, and also was printed on the modem in a font where one and ell looked the same. What a nightmare that was- no copy and paste available.

erogenesis posted at 7:26AM Fri, 20 September 2019 - #4362683

mr_phoenyxx posted at 5:53PM Thu, 19 September 2019 - #4362668

For the record I really do support Bondware/Rendo's upgrade, and if you can, definitely upgrade , but yes some of us might not be ready to upgrade just yet. An upgrade can change up a lot of things unexpectedly and is not recommended smack in the middle of a very intense project.

So for now I recommend you make your licenses permanent at SM while they're still up: https://pgportal.smithmicro.com/authentication/signin

Just fill in your license info and if you see this: Poser Pro License type: permanent License state: enabled then you're in business.

Then block Poser from accessing the internet using Advanced Firewall just to be sure. That way you can keep using Poser the way you wish until you're ready to upgrade to 11.2. Obviously, unblock Poser when you do this.

PS: if you by chance have to move your installation to another PC in the next month (you never know), if the SM server is still active you can unblock Poser, deactivate the license in Poser, and then install and activate on the other PC. Then go back to the pgportal and make permanent again. But that will only work if SM is still active.

I expect this should work... hopefully. This is the road I am taking for now, until I'm done with my comic end of this month / beginning of October.

If the other option was for Poser to completely disappear forever, then I am happy that someone purchased it instead of letting it die. I am just very gun shy at this point because of the many, many problems that have occurred with Poser over the last 5 to 10 years or more. I truly hope that Bondware and Poser are successful, but I won't believe it until I see it.

And I don't feel this is a good start. Maybe I just missed it. Maybe this has all been talked about for months. But to me, this all seems like it's coming totally out of the blue at the last minute. That doesn't bode well. I feel like another option besides forcing everyone to upgrade should have been possible. Giving us options and choices would have been the customer friendly thing to do.

I would disagree a bit and let me state my reasons below for asking you to take this in its proper context.

An entire software changed hands. I'd say so far Bondware was about a hundred times more communicative in the past two months (remember, the purchase was in JUNE, it's now September) and they managed not only to pull of a free upgrade but an agreement with Hivewire to include content from them, and updated La Femme build separately and a safe for educators version and a ton of new content.

The entire process has been communicated here and in emails and newsletter. I kept with it because it is my hobby and I use the software daily. I checked here and was critical a few times of the lack of communication when the purchase news came out. Things got much better since then. Again, remember the purchase was on June 18, 2019.

The upgrade HAD to happen because due to the purchase the previous owner is shutting off the servers the authentication was run so they had to get everything over. It is a perfectly normal procedure when rights change hand to rebrand and ensure everything is with the new owner.

I don't pretend I can convince you to my side of seeing things, but perhaps I helped giving you a few points of view to consider?

I have a problem with poser 11. the document window size is 2552 by 126. and it tell me 'la palette de scène est contrainte par l'amrrage et ne peut être redimensionnée numériquement. Wow! That's a real problem! What can I do with That?!?

Poser 11.2, The upgrade from bondware, doesn't work well for me. I have poser from poser pro 2012. update to poser pro 2014 and upgrade to poser 11 and now upgrade with bondware. It doestn't work and I'm unable to open a ticket. They don't recognize my email. What can I do?

feedesneige posted at 7:05AM Wed, 02 October 2019 - #4365317

I have a problem with poser 11. the document window size is 2552 by 126. and it tell me 'la palette de scène est contrainte par l'amrrage et ne peut être redimensionnée numériquement. Wow! That's a real problem! What can I do with That?!?

It seems similar to a problem of another user that's being discussed in this thread: https://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/?thread_id=2938250

You might want to follow the discussion there, and try the possible solutions that people have suggested there.

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Poser Pro 11, Poser 12 and Poser 13, Windows 10, Superfly junkie. My units are milimeters.

Persephone (the computer): AMD Ryzen 9 5900x, RTX 3070 GPU, 96gb ram.

feedesneige posted at 7:07AM Wed, 02 October 2019 - #4365318

Poser 11.2, The upgrade from bondware, doesn't work well for me. I have poser from poser pro 2012. update to poser pro 2014 and upgrade to poser 11 and now upgrade with bondware. It doestn't work and I'm unable to open a ticket. They don't recognize my email. What can I do?

Before anybody tries to help you, we need to know how exactly it doesn't work. Did the update install? Does Poser simply not load? Does it show an error message?

If the update installer doesn't start at all, you might have a corrupt download, I've seen several people with that problem. Try redownloading the installer.

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Feel free to call me Ohki!

Poser Pro 11, Poser 12 and Poser 13, Windows 10, Superfly junkie. My units are milimeters.

Persephone (the computer): AMD Ryzen 9 5900x, RTX 3070 GPU, 96gb ram.

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