Torquinox posted at 5:58 PM Fri, 25 July 2025 - #4498125

Putitadelamierda2 posted at 4:56 PM Fri, 25 July 2025 - #4498123

It's a toxic relationship, PA's desperately seek greener fields other than the main site, some straight up quit, and those who don’t sell their products exclusively with them are targeted and pressured to stop any activity outside their platform (Secondary shops, Patreon, Artstation...), or face consequences.

And you have heard these things from one or more top vendors? 'Cause I don't really think anybody is giving Powerage, Zeddicuss, Midnight_Stories or their like any grief. And I don't think Stonemason, Rawart, Luthbel, Linday, Oso, Josh Crockett, etc are planning to leave any time soon. Mada has come right out on the forum to say Daz gives her extra opportunities to make money. So, sure, you could be right, but prove it!

A couple of months back on DA, I contacted directly, an artist that was working on a BEAUTIFUL project for g8-9. In that convo, it was said directly to me (still have the inbox) that if they do sell it at daz it can only be at daz. 
This was not the first vendor that has told me the exact same thing. There have been vendors that have made this information very public numerous times. Its to corner the market, its to make it so people -have- to go to DAZ if they wish to purchase certain artists items. It is literally how DAZ Is keeping afloat. 
Not from great customer service, that is for sure! 
Anyone that has remotely spoken to a "Daz asset" artist knows this. 
The other common knowledge, is that they may make the bulk of their profit in the first couple of weeks to month of release. 
Other artists actually lose money due to “sales” that DAZ runs. 
This again, is common knowledge. You can go find it yourself. Don't just take our words on it!
The “Top artists”, yes, they are getting a better deal. DAZ gives them “spotlight” attention...because they know if those artists go...that is it for them.
If those artists you named ever left daz or offered their products as a direct buy...I would never go back to daz. And many of us would leave to give our money directly to those artists. 


As to "Heavy handed by mods"...you must be an artist of understatement. 
Breathe a word that looks negative or they THINK is negative and your post is gone. It is why I literally screen cap every post and thread I post in now. 
This is not just my view. This has been repeated ad naseum by people. People that are not just randomly bringing up small things!
Big issues like say....support tickets from 2023 that are just now getting answered?
Like products, they admit, do not work "as they should" but refuse to fix. 
Like dubious IP licensing or lack there of...
Valid, solid issues. That should be addressed to the customer base of any site.

As to "its their site..." yes. You are right. It is. But it is also a BUSINESS that they are running internationally.
There is a base code of practice for most businesses. 
They also dance around their own TOS and yes, I can say that with assurance and proof. 

No other business would get the leeway DAZ is being given for 2-year-old support tickets! Or products that constantly do not meet what is advertised! 
That is a flat out fact. 
Tell me, if you bought a TV and you got it home. It didn't work. You contacted the store, and they were like…we will respond in 2-5 business days and…nothing.
You then contacted the manufacturer, and they just told you "our products are GREAT! NOTHING WRONG" and ignored you. Didn't respond etc...
That you would be ok?

You would just "Oh well hooodee hooo" and toss the TV and go get a new one?

I do not think so.
Or if you had that issue with the hypothetical TV and it took 2 years to get a reply?
You would be ok?
Would ANYONE be ok with that?

Yet, complain about DAZ doing -exactly- that and suddenly its acceptable for a company to do?
Logic fail.

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