Torquinox posted at 5:57 AM Fri, 25 July 2025 - #4498080

@ShelLuser So, you test for Renderotica? Sounds amusing. I shop there, too. And you say the 'rotica rejects land on renderhub? I believe that. I would add, despite all that, there are some reputable vendors and freebie donors who also distribute on renderhub. But it's definitely buyer beware! 

Guilty as charged ;)   As soon as I discovered that there was more available than just Daz packages and also discovered the ease of the contents library pane I started looking into other websites, and now most of my stuff is bought from 3rd parties these days. And what I always found ironic was even though the emphasis is heavy on the "naughty stuff" there's also plenty more available.

Torquinox posted at 5:58 PM Fri, 25 July 2025 - #4498125

Putitadelamierda2 posted at 4:56 PM Fri, 25 July 2025 - #4498123

It's a toxic relationship, PA's desperately seek greener fields other than the main site, some straight up quit, and those who don’t sell their products exclusively with them are targeted and pressured to stop any activity outside their platform (Secondary shops, Patreon, Artstation...), or face consequences.

And you have heard these things from one or more top vendors? 'Cause I don't really think anybody is giving Powerage, Zeddicuss, Midnight_Stories or their like any grief. And I don't think Stonemason, Rawart, Luthbel, Linday, Oso, Josh Crockett, etc are planning to leave any time soon. Mada has come right out on the forum to say Daz gives her extra opportunities to make money. So, sure, you could be right, but prove it!

Now, an important disclaimer is in effect: I don't really bother myself with "politics" and also don't keep up with every shift in power. However... @Putitadelamierda2 is fully on the mark here, I've also heard stories told by vendors and mentioned by "my" staff; vendors who moved away from Daz (to "us" amongst other markets (probably Renderosity too!)) and they definitely mentioned that one of the most compelling reasons to move was not being allowed to sell elsewhere other than Daz.

I don't know how far and deep this actually goes (whether this is also set up in contracts and what not) but if you hear this mentioned from multiple vendors... then something stinks (IMO).

Do note that I don't want to make it sound as if vendors constantly walk away or stuff like that, I don't know. But I do share Putita's opinion, based on what I've heard.