gohanf22 posted at 8:35 AM Thu, 24 July 2025 - #4498050

DarkElegance posted at 11:23 AM Thu, 10 July 2025 - #4497715

gohanf22 posted at 7:51 AM Tue, 6 May 2025 - #4495748

RHaseltine posted at 2:04 PM Mon, 5 May 2025 - #4495721

gohanf22 posted at 9:35 AM Mon, 5 May 2025 - #4495710

EDIT: And reason why Pirating exists, it isn't cause people do it cause they wish to, it is cause they want to stick it to companies that are GREEDY.  DAZ being one of them.  DAZ is a greedy company and that is why DAZ assets are on Pirating sites.  I do support PAs on Renderhub cause Renderhub gives them 100% of the revenue, unlike DAZ does.  If people want to sell somewhere and get all of the revenue, you should start selling on Renderhub.

According to Renderhub's own

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pages:

Tier 1 : Earn 55%
1-50 items in your store

Tier 2 : Earn 60%
51-100 items in your store

Tier 3 : Earn 65%
101-200 items in your store

Tier 4 : Earn 70%
201 or more items in your store

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How exactly would you expect a site that didn't take a percentage to pay its operating costs, not to mention the costs of developing the applicastion in the case of daz and daz Studio 9and the license fees for things like Iray)? People pirate from greed, including the uploaders (who gt income from advertising on the file hosts, or from pushing premium subscriptions to the hosts with an affiliate scheme) - trying to dress it up as some kind of principled stance is absurd.

I'm not going to argue richard.  You know why people do it.  They do it to people that DON'T DESERVE the money.  Why do you think people pirate software and games? Cause they are tired of greedy companies and companies pushing woke, etc.

Pirating has become the modern day version of Robin Hood.  And companies saying it is ruining revenue is just upset they are not getting what they want cause they are the ones pushing this crap.

You don't see anyone complaining about pirating when they aren't pushing degeneracy or greed do you? Nope.  Only the ones pushing greed and woke are the ones complaining about piracy.

I rest my case.

I am sorry. No. Piracy is NOT the answer. Why? 
Its not "Daz" taking the hit. They have their backsides covered. Its the artists. 
The artists that are just like you and me and everyone...trying to earn a penny for our hard work. 
Dont take that away from them, because companies like Daz are stealing from them already.

instead, urge artists to start selling on other sites or their own sites! Urge artists to sell directly to buyers!
Support artists...dont support companies already stealing from them.

Renderhub is a much better site to start selling on.  But many PAs won't do it.  It is not my fault they won't listen.  Maybe when they start losing money selling on DAZ alone, it will wake them up that DAZ is not benefiting them as a whole.

And these PAs need to know one good thing they have over DAZ:  DAZ NEEDS THEM to succeed.  Without them, they are toast.  Majority of revenue comes from them.  Not these base models.  PA created content is where much of their money comes from, and if they wish to keep their artists happy, then they better start giving them MORE of the money.

Renderhub doesn't take anything and that is why many are now selling on that site.

I am not trying to endorse it, Dark.  I am just trying to state the situation that this INDUSTRY or industries as a whole is in.  People are SICK of Degeneracy, Indoctrination, Propaganda, you name it being put into Movies, TV Shows, Video Games, you name it.  We are sick of the PANDERING of mental illness and yes it is a MENTAL ILLNESS!

I don't care what anyone on this forum says otherwise cause they are just talking through their brainwashing.   It is a PROVEN FACT!

I agree, Daz needs those artists...more than those artists need DAZ. It is a matter of getting them to realize that or rather, act on it.
If they were to move to direct sales, their sales would increase...not decrease. 
Their profits would increase. 
Never mind, the same stuff is now getting released...over and over. 
We all know “naked” sells. But when it starts to look all the same. Just a different colour...it gets stale. 
"Bathing suits", "Wet skin", "LIE makeup", "Underwear that looks like the last 6 sets released", rinse and repeat. 

The thing I have liked about renderhub is diversity of items(military, sci-fi, etc) and the fact their support team actually responds!
They will engage with someone! Which is so refreshing.
Unlike some places that flat out ignore anyone that remotely complains(validly) about their site. (Please see example in this very thread)
As to hinky items, I havent purchased anything as yet, that has been hinky(from renderhub). And the artists have been fast to reply to any questions that I have had. 
Some of the artists sell at Renderhub and here as a matter of fact. 
Now hinky stuff? Well as I now have several support tickets open in Daz and no replies. Or little feed back, no solutions and excuses why some products havent been working since people started to report the issue in 2018! I think Hinky covers it. They even admit the particular product didnt work "out of the box". Admitted that the files didnt work as they should. Did they remove the item and fix it? NOPE!
So, hinky…seems to be in more than one direction. 
(and still no fix to the subscription issue. But hey! daz is the golden child that no one can complain about!)

What is sad, really, is some amazing artists are there. Luthbel comes to mind, Aeon Soul another. Those are the artists that have made it difficult to just go "NOPE" to daz. Artists whose quality is amazing. And worth every penny they cost. 
If those artist ever walked away from daz and made their stuff direct sell...I have a feeling Daz would be in serious trouble.

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