FirstBastion posted at 6:41 PM Wed, 7 May 2025 - #4495826

When I used to make a lot of stuff,  people liked it,  people bought it,  and there was an incentive to make more stuff.

Lately,  whether I  make stuff or not,  there are less customers buying,   and there is only a tiny fraction of sales compared to years past.  Again, Less incentive to make stuff.

There was a time,  when having a healthy deep catalogue of older products was going to keep a healthy trickle to balance everything out. That's gone too.  we get half of that 90-95% off,  its literally pennies per sale. Customers win,  by getting quality products.  Daz usually gets a new release sale as an incentive to trigger the extreme discount,  so they dont lose.   PAs though,  they absolutely lose.

There is no incentive to make stuff anymore.  So who looses?  If you do the math,  it is fairly obvious.

As GeorgeWeber says,  most of us already have a lifetimes worth of content in our libraries that we can put to good use for a long while.  So we might as well start rendering something.  There is still some joy in that. 

As for  those unethical criminal pirates that blatter nonsensical justification for their bad behaviour,  there are no words,  it would fall on deaf ears anyway.

This is sad to hear, but thank you for your input FirstBastion and confirmation of what I have heard from others. I have loved your stuff at Daz and bought so many of your products there over the years, they are so great for kit-bashing and fast to render, yet high quality environments.  the fact that this downturn in 3D is effecting you as well, says a lot about the state of things.

And also thanks to those Freebie creators like pjz99 who just keep plugging away and giving to us freely, its truly appreciated.  Thank you!

And DeeceyArt, Daz really screwed things up with the new token thing, I think they really underestimated how everything would work together and stack and now they seem to be caught in a bind of how do they dial it back. There was a time when 75-85 percent off was considered great, an instant buy.  but now the token thing has made it so 95% off is almost the new norm. In fact the 70% off Fast Grabs, which were once a daily staple that I would check everyday, I doubt anyone even looks at them anymore, they have been made obsolete. Once a new norm is created, that is what the buyers hold out on. Its an ugly mess.  When I did one month of Prime during this past March Madness sale, I remember my overall avg discount for everything was 94-95% off due to the tokens. It almost felt like stealing. I have no idea if changes have been made since then, I haven't bought anything since then. But it was obvious to me this is not sustainable for creators. It felt like a going out of business sale where they are just discounting things so much just to get the last bit of juice out of buyers and not caring about the PAs. I hope that is not the case.