Thanks guys, I still have a good amount of work left to do. I'll be adjusting the texture of the paint to get it just right, I know it's reflectivity is pretty intense. And I need to really play with the lighting too. A few more days of work and I think I'll have it where I want it, at least for now. The poly count on this getting out of hand, Carrara was chugging when I was texturing and assembling this baby,there was like a 5 second delay for everything, I hope it hangs in there. Some mirrors and a steering wheel, an exhaust pipe, and some emblems and logos and I'll call it done. Oh yeah and a different material for the floor and background. Probobly one of those nice new materials I got in MBGrooves, minus havign Anyhting Grooves applied, I think that would sink the ship,Ram wise. I'll post the final image when I get it done. Thanks for the encouragement, this has been a real learning project that has lasted too long but it's worth the effort. Thanks, kaom