And if you WEREN'T aware... betamax became (in an updated case) the basis for BetaCam, the industry standard for the last 10 years in broadcast and industrial video use. So, since it's still used, yet considered a BROADCAST standard, while VHS is falling by the wayside, and was NEVER a broadcast standard... who's to say what is still a usable software. I don't mind people talking about RayDream here. I just don't use it myself. MEANWHILE.. the discussions of wether Shade or DAZ is better then Poser... why are they here? ;)