Sorry if my response came over that way! Kix's use of soft shadows is impecable! (sorry for the spelling!) I don't doubt that if I zoomed in at a higher resolution, that he made ALL of the links of the chains! As well as the nicely swagged power/control cables. The level of detail on the floor... dirt here... debris there... excellant as usual! I just was chiming in about the style of motor that I have used that is similar, and in my opinion correct for this usage. Nice work Kix, and I hope that you were paid hansomely for it! :>