As another viewpoint- I ordered my copy of C3 @ SIGGRAPH on July 26th on the show floor. I just checked my email link to FedEx and it tells me that I have received my copy @ my front door today. :> I think it's safe to say I know what I'll be doing this evening! I also received a curious email from Eovia regarding the shipping of my copy. It stated the same line about my order having shipped and the tracking number I could use to follow-up on it. Here's the info from Fedewx I have received since that email: Sep 30, 2003 10:32 am Delivered Arlington, MA 6:46 am On FedEx vehicle for delivery BOSTON, MA Sep 29, 2003 10:09 pm Arrived at FedEx sort facility BOSTON, MA 8:34 pm Departed FedEx sort facility HARTFORD, CT 12:57 pm Scanned at FedEx sort facility HARTFORD, CT Sep 27, 2003 3:01 pm Arrived at FedEx sort facility HARTFORD, CT 7:25 am Departed FedEx sort facility HARRISBURG, PA Sep 26, 2003 2:07 pm Scanned at FedEx sort facility HARRISBURG, PA Sep 24, 2003 7:36 am Scanned at FedEx sort facility PHOENIX, AZ 6:34 am Arrived at FedEx sort facility PHOENIX, AZ Sep 23, 2003 11:13 pm Departed FedEx sort facility SAN DIEGO, CA 10:04 pm Loaded onto trailer at FedEx facility SAN DIEGO, CA 2:05 pm Picked up by FedEx SAN DIEGO, CA Sep 6, 2003 4:30 am Package information transmitted to FedEx SAN DIEGO, CA As you can see, there is this HUGE gap between 'Package info...' and 'loaded onto trailer...' But, since I've checked here @ R'osity regularly, I've been kept apprised of what's happening, without buggin' Eovia's CS staff. I appreciate what they've had to deal with, but my overall experience has still been good. By the by, since I was lucky enough to go to SIGGRAPH and meet the folks @ Eovia first hand, I thought they were knowledgable, friendly, down-to-Earth and very helpful with my questions about version 3. I had no problems dropping down my card, and walking away with a beta copy then and there. :> Just my (more then) 2 cents.