ahhhh now I see, it gets the grouping if you reimport it? well thats good... not good that it doesn't truly hide the verts though. I'm not really sold on the usefulness of Carrara for morphing Poser meshes... the bit I've tried with it, it seems pretty slow and not enough tools. (V3 is huge anyway) I think its a huge problem that I can't save anything as .car ... think I'll stick to magnets in Poser and other modeling programs for morphing. :)