In Their Way... by RodS ()
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I saw a poster for a certain political figure a day or two ago, and I just had to do my own version just for fun. The Girls stand ready to take on all those who would impose a tyrannical Galactic Empire on all of us. Or try to close down the nearest Boutique…. Or Deli…
OK – question for you… Would any of you consider the Girls to be nude in this image? Make no mistake, these ladies have no problem with hijinks in the altogether, but not when they’re in spec-ops mode.
The Girls are all wearing Darkworld’s Skinsuits. These use textures and displacement maps to simulate skin-tight clothing which is mapped to the figure’s skin materials via a pose file. Much the same result may be obtained by simply placing a flat color on a figure’s skin in the material room. This is possible with either Poser or DAZ Studio. This is simulated clothing.
I know a few mods look at my stuff, and I’d like a bit of feedback on this issue. What DOES constitute “nudity” here? Inquiring minds want to know…
I’m asking this not because I’ve had any problems with it here, but others have recently – including a long-time member who has a wonderful story going.
I realize certain laws and standards have to be adhered to. I support that. At the same time, we must keep in mind that to have an ‘art’ site that truly reflects the variety and enjoyment of ‘art’ it’s important to have a clear understanding of what actually constitutes 'nudity.' On the flip side of that coin, it's important to remember we're all human, and a civil sitemail to the right person(s) can work wonders.
End of rant. (steps down from soap-box)
As always, thanks so much for stopping by, and for all your awesome comments and support! You all rock!!
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Image Comments (37)
LyleAryn () Online Now! 6:13PM | Fri, 23 October 2020
I feel the world is safe in their capable hands.
As for the nudity... I'd like to know, too. As I've seen some artists that show stylized (huge) breasts and impossible yoga poses with no problem but had art removed because I put a dimple beneath a thumb where a lady was cupping her breast.
Sometimes the line between "art" and "porn" is thin, and I understand wanting to avoid becoming like DA or Renderotica, but I'm a bit confused as to what the rules apply to. Where is it that the line is defined, as far as Renderosity goes?
Anywho, great poster!
versluis () 6:17PM | Fri, 23 October 2020
That's a GREAT poster, Rod! Loving the black and white and the mood. Nicely done!
About the nudity issue: I guess it really depends on the type of skinsuit you're talking about. Often game engines prefer a single 3D object and a single set of textures, which is technically a skinsuit. So it's not the actual technique as such. However if you can still make out the exact shape of the nude figure, no matter what colour it is, mods can be a bit etchy. I had YouTube thumbnails removed showing grey clad characters, and while annoying, I do get their point. I guess as a rule of thumb, if a skinsuit looks like a simple body painting, it's an issue. If it looks like actual clothing, with displacement or clever moprhs, and not like a body painting, you should be OK.
calico_jester () 6:45PM | Fri, 23 October 2020
My 2 cents worth is ... not even close to nude (drat), but I can understand the sensitivity of some about animated characters being nudally suggestive, which seems to me far less objectionable that pubescent teenagers twerking on G rated televised broadcasts.
npauling () 7:09PM | Fri, 23 October 2020
To my way of thinking they have clothes on because of all the texture. They really do look cool Rod and what super work with the material. :) :) :)
goldie () Online Now! 7:29PM | Fri, 23 October 2020
Great looking "poster," Rod...I have no problem with nudity as long as it actually adds some artistic value to a scene. Nudity for the sake of nudity (actually nakedness) comes from the mind of a juvenile, underdeveloped sense of "art." I can't see that nudity would add anything to your poster.
Totally agree, Barb, and no it wouldn't. Especially now that it's getting cold, and the Girls would give me "that" look! 😉
I used to be one of those guys that just liked a naked chick just for the sake of it, but now I try to make it at least somewhat artistic - i.e. lighting, form, gracefulness - not just 'hey, here's a girl with no clothes on.'
Someone apparently got their Hanes in a wad over what they THOUGHT was a naked alien in radar_rad_dude's story. It was just a figure in a painted skinsuit. I'm just trying to determine where Rendo draws the line.
Trust me - if the TNA Girls get nekkid, there will be no doubt! (AND I'll tick the 'nudity' button!) 🤣
Richardphotos () 9:13PM | Fri, 23 October 2020
they are bodacious in their beauty and sexy figures
looking at the TOS would be closer to being correct. I have been told that indentation in the cloth of nipples or pubic area is not nudity by a mod.
"comes from the mind of a juvenile" I guess that fits me. 76 year old juvenile!! as long as sex is not shown and abides by tos rules, I consider nothing wrong with nudity.
bakapo () 10:09PM | Fri, 23 October 2020
These Girls are fabulous and absolutely fine... ooops, did we say Girls? Does that make them minors? I had a very cartoony figure in a bikini taken down because of too much "cheek" and she "looked too young" according to TPTB. In my opinion, bodysuits are clothing. Bikini bathing suits are clothing, too.
RedPhantom () Online Now! 10:12PM | Fri, 23 October 2020
Please keep in mind we mods are human. There are close to 200 hundred images uploaded everyday for us to check. Sometimes, we make mistakes. If you think one of us acted in error, please contact us and explain. I understand it can be upsetting to have an image moderated in error. I've been there on another site. But it's more likely to get resolved with a sitemail to the mod rather than posting an angry thread in the forums or an image in the gallery. And also please give us time to respond. We aren't on here all the time.
And to answer the question what is considered nudity, from the TOS "The nudity flag must be checked if the uploaded image shows more skin than the amount you would see when wearing a thong bikini. Nudity flag must be checked if any portion of the female nipple is exposed." This does include clothing that is sheer and often body paint. You can find the TOS here, and there is a link in the about menu at the bottom of every page.
misty7j3 () 10:12PM | Fri, 23 October 2020
Super cool image, Rod! The gals look awesome wearing their skinsuits......no nudity necessary here.....I think the gals look more interesting, in their skinsuits. That's just my opinion.....'lol'!!!
eekdog () Online Now! 10:20PM | Fri, 23 October 2020
they stand tall on their statement Rod, love that b&w touch on this render. G$ looks most amazing here. nudity is fine, but not a norm for the T.N.A. group. and mods use a magnifying glass on our works. I was mentioned in past to me if it is questionable on nudity mark it so. stay cool bro, keep safe you and dear Jo...
Diemamker () 12:38AM | Sat, 24 October 2020
awesome work on this! like how you made it in B&W... looks great!
mtdana () 12:44AM | Sat, 24 October 2020
A great crew and great looking poster!!! You got some good replies to your question well done !
starship64 () 1:44AM | Sat, 24 October 2020
Great work, and I sure don't want to be in their way!
I don't consider an opaque skinsuit to be nudity.
UteBigSmile () 3:08AM | Sat, 24 October 2020
Fantastic RANT brother, you speak to me from the heart and your girls look gorgeous as always! Furthermore I completely agree with our dear Lyle!
STEVIEUKWONDER () 3:43AM | Sat, 24 October 2020
This (Rad Dude who I've messaged privately with my utmost support) has left a very sour taste in my mouth Rod. Your work is always interesting to the point of looking again and again because you are so generous with your detail. A lovely scene. Well worth 5 Stars! Top Man!
Kordouane () 4:03AM | Sat, 24 October 2020
Wow !! It's a huge success, I can only bow and say, bravo the artist !!
Radar_rad-dude () 5:39AM | Sat, 24 October 2020
They all look fantastic, Rod! I see no problems with a need for a nudity tag from my perspective, but you really can't trust what I would say now can you? Wink! Wink! Thanks again for everything, my friend! I am truly humbled by your generous and kind soul!
wscottart () 7:57AM | Sat, 24 October 2020
Well if there is no nudity the mods will remove the tag, or least they did on mine.
lwperkins () Online Now! 9:54PM | Sat, 24 October 2020
The girls are always appropriate to the occasion. That is my story and I am sticking to it :D
daggerwilldo () Online Now! 10:11PM | Sat, 24 October 2020
A very fine job, You are a true talent. A total stunning work. Really well done.
radioham () 5:24AM | Sun, 25 October 2020
Great render love the image... Lets get down to the nity 1 we come in to this world with no clothes in so much as I say PORN is not for this site but a nude person is the way we are made should we hide the fact that we are human and made with bits and bobs 2 where dose PORN stop and art take over 3 Some ladies have large chest while others small... Elivs ..well every man would love to have him he could sing.. act... and at the end of the day who knows how many women he done more that a simple kiss on Erroll Flyn what part of him do we still talk about.... 4 life we live.... the human body is what we have... if a man walks in to a shop the ladies in the shop where dose their eyes go 5 A lady in front of married man she knows he is there... what part of her body dose she think he is looking at.. hopes he is lookin' at ....what dose she do A man and an woman have just bump in to each other in the street where dose there eyes go to
we are all human let us not forget that for one second we may hide behind our masks of being civil but at the end of the day we are all animals who use the name of love to hide what we do and not always in the dark