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 Subject: V4/M4 products now?

primorge opened this issue on Jul 19, 2021 · 89 posts

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  primorge    ( ) ( posted at 7:46PM Wed, 21 July 2021  · @4423700

I'm also surprised nobody has ever done a possessed Regan from The Exorcist... yikes.


  primorge    ( ) ( posted at 9:48PM Wed, 21 July 2021  · @4423705

Scratch that Regan comment, I think I vaguely remember something similar st RDNA. I just had a look at Kids 4. Surprised how expensive some of that older stuff still is. I didn't realize that K4 was a single figure with gender head morphs, I'm assuming it's the same mesh as M4/V4... maybe a different mapping though. I wouldn't mind having the k4 mesh in my runtimes for completionists sake. Might be useful for wee folk renders and such. I don't think I've ever seen Daz give away a K4 bundle like they have with V4/M4 though...


  randym77    ( ) ( posted at 7:03AM Thu, 22 July 2021  · @4423719

Never buy full price at DAZ. Their older stuff has a high normal price, but it's often put on sale at deep discount. I bought a lot of my K4 stuff from the FastGrab page.

It is the same mesh. The mapping is different, though apparently you can use DS to swap UVs and use V4 textures on the kids. I have used V4/M4 morphs on the kids.

I remember "It's Alive." I really wanted to see it, but my parents wouldn't let me. Kolchak was on of my favorite shows when I was a kid.

I like horror, but it's not something I render a lot. Maybe at Halloween...


  ssgbryan    ( ) ( posted at 10:32AM Thu, 22 July 2021  · @4423736

You don't need DS to use V4 or M4 textures on K4.

The K4/V4 mixer script also works with the Gen 3 figures (Luke/Laura/David/Stephanie/Victoria/Michael). Can't mix between Gen 3 & Gen 4, but there is software to move Gen 4 textures to other figures.

At the end of the day, Poser gives users the ability to decouple content from the figure it was designed for originally, which is why I stick with Poser (not to mention that it is a much, much better written piece of software).



  randym77    ( ) ( posted at 11:54AM Thu, 22 July 2021  · @4423746

ssgbryan posted at 11:53AM Thu, 22 July 2021 - #4423736

You don't need DS to use V4 or M4 textures on K4.

The K4/V4 mixer script also works with the Gen 3 figures (Luke/Laura/David/Stephanie/Victoria/Michael). Can't mix between Gen 3 & Gen 4, but there is software to move Gen 4 textures to other figures.

Where can I get that script?


  primorge    ( ) ( posted at 12:08PM Thu, 22 July 2021  · @4423748

randym77 posted at 12:04PM Thu, 22 July 2021 - #4423746

ssgbryan posted at 11:53AM Thu, 22 July 2021 - #4423736

You don't need DS to use V4 or M4 textures on K4.

The K4/V4 mixer script also works with the Gen 3 figures (Luke/Laura/David/Stephanie/Victoria/Michael). Can't mix between Gen 3 & Gen 4, but there is software to move Gen 4 textures to other figures.

Where can I get that script?

https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/cols-m4k4-mixer/98820

No longer available. I use Colorcurvature's PML scripts constantly, I emailed him and he was very cool and just sent me the script free in an email attachment. It's totally changed and improved my morph workflow. Dude is awesome.

I'll take a look through my old emails and find his address and PM it to you if you like. You could ask him about it.


  primorge    ( ) ( posted at 12:15PM Thu, 22 July 2021  · @4423752

Here's a thread about it...

https://www.renderosity.com/rr/mod/forumpro/?thread_id=2866959


  primorge    ( ) ( posted at 12:46PM Thu, 22 July 2021  · @4423753

Also. At the end of the posted thread is Colorcurvature's email. Nap time.


  primorge    ( ) ( posted at 7:27PM Fri, 23 July 2021 · edited on 7:31PM Fri, 23 July 2021 · @4423846

I popped over to Hivewire to take a look at what's going on with Dawn 2, and I must say having finally taken a look at the topology/edgeflow, base resolution, default shape, and the fact that the figure is UDIM (absolutely ideal for me) that my search for a commercial figure that fits my needs might be concluding with Dawn 2. Very excited about the release. Not sure why I didn't look sooner. From what I can see the figure seems like a nice middle ground between the things I like about V4 and the things I like about La Femme.


  JimTS    ( ) ( posted at 4:25PM Tue, 27 July 2021  · @4424026

Where is Karina's stuff/site?

A word is not the same with one writer as with another. One tears it from his guts. The other pulls it out of his overcoat pocket
Charles Péguy

 Heat and animosity, contest and conflict, may sharpen the wits, although they rarely do;they never strengthen the understanding, clear the perspicacity, guide the judgment, or improve the heart
Walter Savage Landor

So is that TTFN or TANSTAAFL?


  primorge    ( ) ( posted at 5:10PM Tue, 27 July 2021  · @4424031

JimTS posted at 5:09PM Tue, 27 July 2021 - #4424026

Where is Karina's stuff/site?

http://sasha-16.forumprofi.de/


  JimTS    ( ) ( posted at 6:09PM Tue, 27 July 2021  · @4424033

nicht sprecken http://dl.free.fr/getfile.pl?file=/xXqoT7Ll no file?

A word is not the same with one writer as with another. One tears it from his guts. The other pulls it out of his overcoat pocket
Charles Péguy

 Heat and animosity, contest and conflict, may sharpen the wits, although they rarely do;they never strengthen the understanding, clear the perspicacity, guide the judgment, or improve the heart
Walter Savage Landor

So is that TTFN or TANSTAAFL?


  JimTS    ( ) ( posted at 6:11PM Tue, 27 July 2021  · @4424034

Thanks

A word is not the same with one writer as with another. One tears it from his guts. The other pulls it out of his overcoat pocket
Charles Péguy

 Heat and animosity, contest and conflict, may sharpen the wits, although they rarely do;they never strengthen the understanding, clear the perspicacity, guide the judgment, or improve the heart
Walter Savage Landor

So is that TTFN or TANSTAAFL?


  primorge    ( ) ( posted at 6:28PM Tue, 27 July 2021 · edited on 6:29PM Tue, 27 July 2021 · @4424036

JimTS posted at 6:24PM Tue, 27 July 2021 - #4424033

nicht sprecken http://dl.free.fr/getfile.pl?file=/xXqoT7Ll no file?

Humph. Guess Karina doesn't want people to have Sasha anymore. Happens alot with obsessive free creations, people who make such things tend to be passionate dispositions. News to me. Doesn't bode well for a weight mapped M4, but people have been pining for that forever.


  Rhia474    ( ) ( posted at 7:03PM Tue, 27 July 2021  · @4424038

http://sasha-16.forumprofi.de/t151f23-SASHA-Edition-is-here.html

Try that.


  primorge    ( ) ( posted at 7:41PM Tue, 27 July 2021  · @4424040

Rhia474 posted at 7:40PM Tue, 27 July 2021 - #4424038

http://sasha-16.forumprofi.de/t151f23-SASHA-Edition-is-here.html

Try that.

I have sasha but for OP... getting the same result from your link. Are you getting a working link somewhere on that page? 20210727_203854.jpg


  primorge    ( ) ( posted at 7:48PM Tue, 27 July 2021  · @4424041

This leads to a file not found...

20210727_204746.jpg


  primorge    ( ) ( posted at 8:08PM Tue, 27 July 2021  · @4424042

This is merely speculation but Karina hasn't been around for a while. Maybe doing an Anton Kiesel... but AFAIK you can still find Apollo. Seems weird that the site is still up so maybe an exit stage left in preparation for an update.


  Rhia474    ( ) ( posted at 8:35PM Tue, 27 July 2021  · @4424043

Well drat, it still worked in January. I had both Sashas for a few years now but that's when the last big discussion was about her on these forums.

I would not ascribe motives/reasons/enter into speculations that we know nothing about, instead, hoping everything is well with Karina and they may come back one day.


  primorge    ( ) ( posted at 9:04PM Tue, 27 July 2021  · @4424045

You wouldn't.

But yeah. Well said. And ditto on those sentiments. It is peculiar though.


  JimTS    ( ) ( posted at 9:09PM Tue, 27 July 2021 · edited on 9:10PM Tue, 27 July 2021 · @4424047

as a hoarder of such 3d stuff I'm alarmed I can't find sasha in zips or a runtime

A word is not the same with one writer as with another. One tears it from his guts. The other pulls it out of his overcoat pocket
Charles Péguy

 Heat and animosity, contest and conflict, may sharpen the wits, although they rarely do;they never strengthen the understanding, clear the perspicacity, guide the judgment, or improve the heart
Walter Savage Landor

So is that TTFN or TANSTAAFL?


  primorge    ( ) ( posted at 9:22PM Tue, 27 July 2021 · edited on 9:26PM Tue, 27 July 2021 · @4424048

Only Karina can decide whether Sasha is available or not. Pulling the download is pretty clear intent, for whatever reason. I'm surprised this is the first mention of it though. I'd check again at a later date I guess.


  randym77    ( ) ( posted at 6:56AM Wed, 28 July 2021 · edited on 6:56AM Wed, 28 July 2021 · @4424066

Interesting. Karina hasn't posted here since May 2020. I hope he's all right.


  DreaminGirl    ( ) ( posted at 9:34AM Wed, 28 July 2021  · @4424071

Last time Karina disappeared for a long time, he had almost been killed by a truck. I fear the worst now :/



  tomyee    ( ) ( posted at 3:13PM Wed, 28 July 2021  · @4424096

Yes, same here. Anytime someone online disappears for a long time period, I worry that COVID got them. I hope that isn't the case, Karina made a great contribution to the Poser community but has experienced some bad luck with his health.


  primorge    ( ) ( posted at 3:37PM Wed, 28 July 2021  · @4424097

Devil's Advocate here; Logic says, from the facts we know. The download for Sasha is no longer there. Yet the site still is, with a dead link.


  primorge    ( ) ( posted at 3:50PM Wed, 28 July 2021  · @4424098

Another thing to consider; I've only used Sasha a few times but by my recollection doesn't the installation and certain compatibility features of Sasha-16 rely on Python? What would be the elephant in the room with that?


  Rhia474    ( ) ( posted at 4:44PM Wed, 28 July 2021  · @4424103

My Sashas work just fine in Poser 12, but I installed them when it was still Poser 11 era, so good point . Once installed and initialized, they should work perfectly in P12.

Again, i hope all is well with Karina, and given that the figure was provided free of charge to anyone who downloaded it I dont think anyone is owed an explanation here, especially if health related issues happened. I loathe speculations without facts so i will withdraw from this thread.


  primorge    ( ) ( posted at 4:58PM Wed, 28 July 2021  · @4424105

Maybe he's updating the download for 12, seems to make sense considering the reliance on python. That's about the only speculation I'll make. And it's regarding a technical aspect of a 3d model for Poser. Not any personal or privacy guesses. Makes the most sense.

Back to jaw and mouth morphs/expressions for La Femme.


  primorge    ( ) ( posted at 9:02PM Wed, 28 July 2021  · @4424109

Just an aside. Finally got around to loading Pauline 2. Did I get a busted copy or is that figure just a flat out mess? What's up with the genital dial? Smh. Obviously QA wasn't a priority with that figure.


  adp001    ( ) ( posted at 4:48PM Thu, 29 July 2021  · @4424183

From sasha-16 manual:

12.3. Where can I get an update?

 A valid question, but difficult to answer.

Due to my personal financial situation and the exchange rate of the UAH vs. US$ I can't afford to rent web space for hosting.

Until then we must rely on the current publishing scheme (whatever it will be in the end).

If that's not an option for you then send me a mail to "karina.kiev@ymail.com" and we can discuss alternatives.

I am sorry for these inconveniences, but I didn't find alternative ways to publish SASHA yet. I hope that will change as soon as SASHA becomes more popular (if ever).




  adp001    ( ) ( posted at 5:03PM Thu, 29 July 2021 · edited on 5:03PM Thu, 29 July 2021 · @4424185

I may be wrong - but I seem to remember that sasha-16 has a "do what you want with it" license. Not really official (there is nothing in the manual except a copyright notice). But I think Karina wrote something like that in the forum.

If the problem is only the download space, then this can be solved quickly and easily. If not through a free service, then financed with a few dollars. The few remaining Poser users will not make so much traffic that such a thing would be unaffordable.




  primorge    ( ) ( posted at 5:07PM Thu, 29 July 2021 · edited on 5:10PM Thu, 29 July 2021 · @4424188

Oh. Interesting. I don't know why Karina just doesn't put Sasha on a Google drive or something. I recall, in a prior conversation with Karina, months ago, when I mentioned Adobe, he said something like "I refuse to support gangsters"... so perhaps Karina doesn't have a high opinion of Google either. I think Sasha was suitably popular enough to find some inexpensive, or free, means of sharing. But again, that's just from the perspective of an outsider. Thanks for that bit of info ADP...


  primorge    ( ) ( posted at 5:13PM Thu, 29 July 2021  · @4424189

I think any number of people would be happy to host the figure on their site... maybe CobraBlade for example, there's others too. I just say CobraBlade because I know he hosts Snarly's things. Not to be too presumptuous, just a community example that I know of.


  primorge    ( ) ( posted at 5:19PM Thu, 29 July 2021  · @4424190

Hell. ShareCG. Though I have my own personal reasons for no longer having my things there. I remember distinctly Karina hosting the KVG there, years ago. Shame Englishbob doesn't have Morphography anymore. Or Basicwiz's hosting site.


  primorge    ( ) ( posted at 5:24PM Thu, 29 July 2021  · @4424191

"The few remaining Poser users will not make so much traffic that such a thing would be unaffordable."

It's shocking how many people have left.


  primorge    ( ) ( posted at 5:42PM Thu, 29 July 2021  · @4424193

Karina still has some freebies hosted at ShareCG...

Screenshot_20210729-183904_Chrome.jpg


  hborre    ( ) ( posted at 5:44PM Thu, 29 July 2021  · @4424194

I wouldn't call it leaving for no reason. Keep in mind, many Poser users are in their golden years and are simpling giving up the hobby voluntarily or because of health issues. You don't notice their disappearance until long after their absence is felt.


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