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Unidentified tank #2

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This is an old film shot, taken way back in April of 2001. on the beautiful(?) grounds of the March Air Force Base Museum in Riverside, California. Actually, I'm not sure if it would even qualify as a tank, maybe a personnel carrier or some vague military title. In any event, if someone could identify this puppy, it would be most appreciated. They charged ten bucks for a ride on it.

Comments (7)


PhthaloBlue

5:28PM | Thu, 25 January 2018

Looks like an M113 armoured personnel carrier. Went into production in 1960, and apparently over 80,000 were produced. Interestingly, it used aluminum armour.

goodoleboy

8:17PM | Thu, 25 January 2018

Okay, thanks loads for the ID. Saved me a lot of time researching this guy. There are so many similar vehicles like this.

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ironsoul

12:36AM | Fri, 26 January 2018

Could also be a M114 which was a recon version of the 113

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starship64

1:25AM | Fri, 26 January 2018

That's actually an M114. It has a lower silhouette than the M113. It was a Vietnam-era recon vehicle.

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anahata.c

7:13AM | Fri, 26 January 2018

I'm impressed the people above knew this vehicle right away. Whether an M113 or M114, both seem similar (given the name), and I'm impressed. It's a boxy thing; and if it's for reconnaissance, then I assume it's built that way for protection for the info-gatherers. Your pic shows off the sloped front and that monolithic 'brick' feeling. Quite formidable for a vehicle, and I'm glad you showed it to us.

(Harry: I accidentally hit the "Report this Image" button, when going for the "Open full Image" button: Never made that mistake before. It throws up a window asking you for your reason for reporting it; and, if you don't give a reason, the report doesn't go anywhere. ((I hit "cancel".)) But if---by mistake---you SHOULD get a report, it was a total mistake! Tell the to contact me, and I'll assure them it was a mistake. But I doubt you'll get anything, as I hit 'cancel'.)

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T.Rex

9:44AM | Fri, 26 January 2018

Yes, M114. Much in the news during the Viet Nam war. Aluminum armor proved to be insufficient, except against small arms fire. And, aluminum burns and has a low melting point (as discovered by the Royal Navy at the Falklands war, and the US navy later on). The 10.- bucks for the ride was probably to pay for the fuel. Armored vehicles are notoriously thirsty (gallons per mile instead of miles per gallon). I've been in the Soviet equivalent - got stuck with my shoulders between the wall and turret wall. NO FUN AT ALL getting out. So, these are cramped. Keep up the good work. :-)

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RodS

3:22PM | Fri, 26 January 2018

I remember seeing a few of these when I was stationed at Udorn Air Base in Thailand.. The security patrols used these when patrolling the base perimeter. Cool photo!

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Wolfenshire Online Now!

1:35PM | Sat, 27 January 2018

That's an M114, you can tell by the more angled/sloped front end. I don't recall ever seeing one on active service. Our recon just used the M113. I was on the M113 until Bradley transition. There was a lot of good points to the M113. There was a ton of interior room for everyone to stretch out. It was much easier to hook a civilian radio up to and pipe music to the crew. The heater exhaust was on top about mid-section on the right side. The train tie-down chains were stored from front lift hook to rear lift hook. If you loosened the chain slightly, it gave a gap that you could put your canteen cup in and heat up water for some Ramen noodles. By placing two five gallon cans on the ground behind the ramp, you could lower the ramp on top of them and make a nice sitting spot for everyone to play Spades. There were some bad points to it also; it threw track way too easy, but repairing track on a 113 was a lot easier than the Bradley. It got stuck in the mud too much, but it was actually harder to roll than a Bradley. And the darn thing leaked terribly in the rain. When I was a naive Private and first assigned to Mech, the first day they had me on top of the darn thing jumping up and down to test the shocks. (it doesn't have shocks). But, still less embarrassing than running around division looking for a box of grid squares. Oh, those were the best days of my life. I've often wondered what happened to the guys, but life marches on and eventually you start seeing your youth in museums.


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