I have dabbled in poser since vers 3 but am not well versed. Just purchased clothing and hair for la femme. Got the hair on ok and the katsuit, Tried to add new mat to the katsuit but all I get is as popup telling me the mat does not exist and do I want it to be created. I click yes and nothing happens. Also I cannot find a category for clothing? Help please.

There isn't a category for clothing. You'll find it in either the Figures library, or Props.

What is the material you're trying to add and how are you trying to add it?

you normally get such a message when trying to add a material that was made for a specific Outfit. You have Mt5 materials that can be added to any surface if you use a Mc6 material then you need to use that one for the model it was made for. Mt5 does also only assign to the selected region it will not assign the material to all the regions on the model unless it has only one.

Trying to add alternative textures to a clothing prop. Have been using Bryce forever so tend to call everything a material!

Know what? I am going on 73 and all I want to do is make my art. I do not want to invest my time and money in stuff that doesn't work upon installation or requires an electrical engineering degree to use or certification in some obscure code. I am going back to V4 and M4 and Dawn, Musk, la homme and la femme can get on their respective kites. At least when I buy from Summoner and Xurge the stuff works first time every time!

A word of advice, if you buy something and it does not work straight out of the box for you, unless there is a thread or something complaining of the same problem multiple times, chances are you're doing something wrong. Nobody, but you is having problems, and it got by Renderosity Quality Assurance. But it's the product's fault. Yeah,... no.

A word of advice: any program requires a certain learning curve. There's no program that upon loading will read your mind and do what you're thinking. You need to learn how it works.

SamTherapy posted at 7:18PM Sat, 11 January 2020 - #4376269

Well, I wasn't trying to escalate anything, and I apologize to Navim if he took it that way. But generally speaking, people usually blame the product rather than themselves, despite the evidence to the contrary.

EClark1894 posted at 1:28AM Sun, 12 January 2020 - #4376280

SamTherapy posted at 7:18PM Sat, 11 January 2020 - #4376269

Well, I wasn't trying to escalate anything, and I apologize to Navim if he took it that way. But generally speaking, people usually blame the product rather than themselves, despite the evidence to the contrary.

Not you, fella. OP suddenly threw a strop for no good reason.

Well fellas it is very strange that products from xurge and summoner installed via the install from zip function work fine whereas products from 'osity do not. Operator error right? Bull!

Maybe you forgot to select the cloth-object before you loaded the material.

Navim posted at 3:42AM Sun, 12 January 2020 - #4376297

Well fellas it is very strange that products from xurge and summoner installed via the install from zip function work fine whereas products from 'osity do not. Operator error right? Bull!

So products from Rosity just don't like you, and they know when they're installed specifically on your computer. Come on, Navim. I'm not saying you're not having issues, but apparently no one but you is having those issues. The problem may not be user error. It might be a system thing. The point is, you gave up and just placed the blame on the product instead of finding out what the problem is. What are you going to do if it happens again, with another product?

Without treading on toes, or jumping down throats, a better way of getting to the cause of any problem is to ask for and provide more detail. Since safely navigating these forums can be at least as difficult as learning Poser intricacies, casting aspersions may be good for fertilising the flowers, but rarely moves an investigation forward.

@Navim, can you show us a screen capture of the library with the material you were trying to apply to the LF catsuit figure? Is it originally intended for that catsuit or some other figure's catsuit? As has been explained, figures created by different vendors will most likely use different material names for their clothing parts. Applying an MT5 material, which only applies to the currently selected material in the Material Room, can be an easy way to get around such naming convention problems. The message you saw "Material blah does not exist. Create" is both helpful and unhelpful at the same time. Helpful, in that it provides a clue that the material file being applied probably doesn't apply to the currently selected figure or prop, and unhelpful, in that just creating that material on the figure still doesn't associate any of the mesh facets to use that material, so another step would be required to make that new material visible. The material room can't directly make that happen. That's what the grouping tool is for.

However, rather than heading down the rabbit hole of endless head scratching that would accompany changing the figure's material assignments, with a bit of effort in the material room, you could, perhaps, make use of the texture you've just applied to a newly created material name. What's required is to copy the material nodes from the new material name, to one or all of the pre-existing materials on that figure, which can be done with one of the material room wacro buttons. But, again, a bit of cleanup will be required, such as removing all of the detached nodes on the other materials, as the wacro leaves them all floating and disconnected (Not completely helpful).

If that gets you where you need to go, great, But if the texture you're applying is actually designed for a different figure, with different UV mappings, and incompatible image files, you may still not get what you want. The concepts are all easy, like going into a shop and saying "I like this suit, but do you have it in blue?", but the mechanisms required within Poser to make that happen may range from trivially simple to "You can't get there from here". Further help will probably need more details on exactly what you're trying to do.

I'd normally post some screen captures of what I'm referring to, but I have a foreground render running and can't get to the material room at the moment.

I like playing with different materials and rarely use the materials provided with an item. I get that message all the time but it has always been due to my error of trying to apply a material set made for one outfit on a completely different outfit. More and more these days I buy general materials collections, such as satin, wool. leather and so on and then use the Material room to apply the new material to parts of the outfit. As with all products that is easier to do on some outfits than others and some have more limitations than others, it varies from vendor to vendor rather than the marketplace the outfit is purchased from.

One example of how I use materials to change an outfit's use, default is the woodland outfit in the inset on the left.

The usual problem that gives the mat zones do not exist pop up is that the figure or object you are trying to apply the texture to isn't selected. I quite often find that although the figure is selected I've accidently selected the ground prop. So I believe the op only needs to make sure they have selected the katsuit and under body parts selected body. Then the texture should apply properly.

The difference with v4 stuff is that it usually uses pz2 files rather than mc6. If you don't have the correct figure selected with these they just don't do anything, rather than show a pop up.

I think referring to the material room for someone who is having trouble with the basics will only confirm their belief that it is somehow difficult, whereas simply applying a texture from the choice supplied with the product (which is what I believe the op was trying to do) is in reality very simple.

Nails60 posted at 4:18PM Sun, 12 January 2020 - #4376323

The usual problem that gives the mat zones do not exist pop up is that the figure or object you are trying to apply the texture to isn't selected. I quite often find that although the figure is selected I've accidently selected the ground prop. So I believe the op only needs to make sure they have selected the katsuit and under body parts selected body. Then the texture should apply properly.

The difference with v4 stuff is that it usually uses pz2 files rather than mc6. If you don't have the correct figure selected with these they just don't do anything, rather than show a pop up.

I think referring to the material room for someone who is having trouble with the basics will only confirm their belief that it is somehow difficult, whereas simply applying a texture from the choice supplied with the product (which is what I believe the op was trying to do) is in reality very simple.

I take your point re the material room but I was not suggesting that the OP should use the material room and I mentioned it came after I had explained that I had seen the warning on a regular basis and the circumstances under which I received the error.

Without further input from the OP we are generally guessing at what the OPs problem is as there are a number of circumstances which can generate the message, many of which have been discussed, including your suggestion.

Here is what probably happened.

The "Material doesn't exist do you want to create it?" usually relates to a Material Collection (mc6) file, because single material files (MT5) usually ask which material zone you want to apply it to. So let's start with that differential.

I think what happened is this ....

The OP added La Femme to the scene, and then added the hair and the catsuit. But I suspect after adding those items, Poser changed focus to La Femme. And, thinking that the katsuit was still selected, the user tried to apply the material to the catsuit but it wasn't the currently selected item.

Sometimes that happens. It's not a content issue, it's a "current item" focus issue. If La Femme was the currently selected item at the time he tried to apply the catsuit material, Poser would expect to see material zones like Skin Head, Skin Torso, Skin Limbs, and so on. But the catsuit material file might only have a single material named Catsuit, which does not exist in La Femme. So, the dialog says "That material doesn't exist in this item. Do you want to create it?"

Answer no. Because sometimes it can be hard to select the catsuit itself and you accidentally click on La Femme, the easiest way to make sure that the catsuit is selected is to use the selection menu in the upper left corner of the document window as shown below. THEN apply the material collection to the catsuit.

After the katsuit is selected as the current item, the current item will look like this

I'm done with any character associated files from people I don't know period. Some of the older creators can be relied on such as Smay, Renapd,and Littlefox but other than that the only thing I will purchase are objects. But after 25 years of 3d I don't really need any more content. After all it is just the same old ---- on a new character and I am supposed to throe out all of my previously purchased content and buy new versions of it? I don't think so. BTW I have deleted all of the La Femme files from poser and will give any associated products to someone who has the time to fix them.

Navim posted at 1:45PM Sun, 12 January 2020 - #4376336

I'm done with any character associated files from people I don't know period. Some of the older creators can be relied on such as Smay, Renapd,and Littlefox but other than that the only thing I will purchase are objects. But after 25 years of 3d I don't really need any more content. After all it is just the same old ---- on a new character and I am supposed to throe out all of my previously purchased content and buy new versions of it? I don't think so. BTW I have deleted all of the La Femme files from poser and will give any associated products to someone who has the time to fix them.

Your license to 3D content is non-transferable. You cannot give away protected copyright files.

Sue me.

Your initial post asked for help. Several here tried to help you. But you appear to have given up within two hours of your initial post.

Oh well. They tried!

... People are strange.

Person comes with a vaguely explained problem, people try to help, person goes ballistic against the program, some people lose patience and say so while others keep trying to help, person goes against vendors and advocates for illegal activities.

I wonder what's up with people.

And people wonder why some of us just...stop helping.

hornet3d, sorry didn't mean to criticise, you guys know more about the technicalities of poser than I will ever know, or to be honest will ever want to know, I just make pictures (definitely don't create art). But as a relatively new user (I've only been user poser for just under 5 years) I can still remember the basic problems I had, and sometimes more experienced users seem to overlook the simplest causes of these problems, for example users not knowing the difference between single clicks, double clicks and drag and drop when adding content to the scene. So sometimes threads rapidly become more complex than a beginner might want, and just boggles their mind. But of course it's better for more people to try to help than none.

And hey, I've got an idea for a new thread, let's just have one entitled "I've got a problem but don't really want a solution, I just prefer to rant!"

Actually I just thought of another scenario why this wouldn't work.

The thread title says "Clothing not showing up in P11 Pro"

Here's another situation that would cause the scenario the OP describes. If, as the title says, the clothing isn't showing up, the other possibility is that he purchased a TEXTURE EXPANSION for the catsuit, and doesn't have the catsuit itself.

So when he adds the catsuit material to La Femme, he gets the error message.

And then blames the content for not working.

It would be nice if he could have given more details, like more detail on the content he said was "bad." The issue isn't the content. If one isn't willing to accept help after asking for it, that is the issue. With that, I'm out of this thread.

Nails60 posted at 9:07PM Sun, 12 January 2020 - #4376344

hornet3d, sorry didn't mean to criticise, you guys know more about the technicalities of poser than I will ever know, or to be honest will ever want to know, I just make pictures (definitely don't create art). But as a relatively new user (I've only been user poser for just under 5 years) I can still remember the basic problems I had, and sometimes more experienced users seem to overlook the simplest causes of these problems, for example users not knowing the difference between single clicks, double clicks and drag and drop when adding content to the scene. So sometimes threads rapidly become more complex than a beginner might want, and just boggles their mind. But of course it's better for more people to try to help than none.

And hey, I've got an idea for a new thread, let's just have one entitled "I've got a problem but don't really want a solution, I just prefer to rant!"

I didn't see it as criticism quite the opposite you made a valid point and I could have explained my self better and maybe split the answer up. Initially I wanted to show that the the error message is not uncommon and even after 25 years of playing I still get the message from time to time. What I also wanted to do was to show others reading the thread that playing with the materials does give you the opportunity to have something a little different in your renders. Of course for that to happen you do need to put in some effort as it is at least a step or two away from the click to make art approach.

Please feel free in future to comment on any post that I make, my aim is to help people and it is also sometimes difficult for someone who has been playing for as long as I have to see a problem through a new users eyes. With the advancing years it gets more difficult as you don't completely remember what it is like to be a new user. I am very hard to upset and always worry that I might give the wrong advice so having someone like you to comment when you feel I may have done so is a blessing not a curse.

Hold on a minute...

If the clothing isn't showing up, how the blinking flip could you apply a new texture to it anyhow? OP said he didn't know where the clothes were located, so can it be assumed that's the problem overall?

Deecey got it, apparently - person who's been using Poser for 25 years bought a texture expansion and not the base clothing, and is lashing out at vendors because of it.

Next.

Afrodite-Ohki posted at 11:37PM Sun, 12 January 2020 - #4376370

Deecey got it, apparently - person who's been using Poser for 25 years bought a texture expansion and not the base clothing, and is lashing out at vendors because of it.

Next.

Oh my giddy aunt.

My words might not have been clear - focus on the "apparently". I'm not claiming it actually did happen, just that it looks like that's it.