jumping ahead a lil bit, i uploaded a genesis 3 character to rmp works in carrara. not active yet

Great - I hope this does really well for you!

ty

we can all playyy

the poser forum figured out the g3 in poser riddle ages ago.

forgot to mention in the product description ** doesn't support HD morphs and geografts.

haven't gotten used to this new rosity forum format.

status says 'review'

here's the link if it goes live. https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/carraractors-janette-and-johnathon-for-genesis-3-in-carrara-8-5/119943

they might ask me to change the thumbnails. i think it's okay to show the whole figure if the shader is all gray. like in pose sets. the other forum seems okay with it.

where's the carrara dalek? lol

being zapped left and right on the other forum today.

I would love to get these characters and experiment.

me too lol.

the status says 'review'
no idea how long that takes. it's a unique product, the reviewer might not understand.

hoping it opens a gateway to more content support for Carrara.

looking for the carrara dalek ! :dalek:

tee hee a particle emitter shooting out g3s

Waiting patiently for it to come on sale! Well done, Misty! Silene

hi Silene. glad to see yoo here. starting to get used to this colour scheme.

still in review status, but i see they changed the dept.
it makes more sense 3D Figure Assets • Morphs & Deformers

i marked it as exclusive for rmp.

the g3 basic wear converted to blended with no fuss.

havent started the bandicam yet.

MistyLaraPrincess posted at 8:29PM Tue, 21 March 2017 - #4299893

hi Silene. glad to see yoo here. starting to get used to this colour scheme.

still in review status, but i see they changed the dept.
it makes more sense 3D Figure Assets • Morphs & Deformers

i marked it as exclusive for rmp.

the g3 basic wear converted to blended with no fuss.

havent started the bandicam yet.

Well get busy girl... you have now discovered how to bump up your pension when you retire! Silene

oh! This is wonderful news! I can't wait! Do the clothes work on the figures too, or does each item need a separate conversion?

clothes and hair need to be converted

when you load a daz item into carrara, when you see the bones moving but not the mesh, first suspect is it's a skin binding issue

works on muscle car also, when a daz rigged car wont open the doors >.<

pity someone cannot write a script to do it for us, D3D or someone.

mebbe could add as button to toolbar, convert is under the edit menu

would be nice to do from carrara. + a uvswap button

Aiko7 in rara with rara hair :)

Lilith shape, can slider the shape in carrara, morphs are under actor

Vicki 7 chamge the uvs to vicki in daz studio, then save as character preset.

girl 7 in carrara, with skin hoping to make as next rmp offer, if all goes well

I am so glad you posted your images here now that the thread 'over there' has gone... there were so much useful work-throughs on that thread. Hope you get your bandicam vids up soon when your product page goes live.

Antara... hello!!!

Good idea, Wendy... maybe a Rendo member might step up and work with Misty on this.

It's just insane that DS do not want to sort making this great tool available. Even if they are working on a direct import solution for Carrara, this has great potential.

I have Poser but do not use it (got it in early days before DS). They came up with an importer that is offered here for free. So it must not be as big of a problem for Poser to work with G3 from what I read below.

https://forum.smithmicro.com/topic/487/genesis-3-to-poser-11-without-going-into-daz-studio/32

https://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/genesis-3-poser-updater/76121

Obviously there are many more obstacles with Carrara and instead of throwing up hands in despair as DAZ weary Carrarra users, like myself, do--- Misty took on the challenge and is putting a lot of effort and time into this. She needs support, not deleted threads.

This could be big... really big. G3 has a lot of useful features.

And I am so pleased it's a woman sorting it out!!!

Silene

still in review status

Misty, what wardrobe item are the girl's leather shorts?

was the Badlands Roamer

may sound weird, i don't want to put up an iray version of my next project, cause i want to see how many carrararists are interested.

Ahhhh. I can breathe again.

You go Misty!

Well done, Misty. Two thumbs up.

ty

for the record, there is no geometry or morphs in these files. it has a modifier section for the joints. joints are transferred to clothes and hair all over the market.

here's how to convert their basic wear for Carrara. Using DS

Some screenshots, Carrara 8.5.119 here

Load them from your Content Tab, Daz library

G3 haz 173 bones. the joy of face rigging. (I'll demo more of this from the tubes)

select here (red arrow) to access their Pose Controls. eyes closed, arms up/down, etc Select here when applying pose presets.

Select Actor to access their shaping sliders. !!Please be advised, at this time, Carrara doesn't support the HD morphs.
I've set Janette and Johnathon to load without the Mouth Realism HD morph

Janette and Johnathon load into Carrara at Mesh Base Resolution, by default their Render Resolution is set to 2. i've gone as high as 4 in test rendering.

i need a nap naos. lol

It's just insane that DS do not want to sort making this great tool available. Even if they are working on a direct import solution for Carrara, this has great potential.

Silene, that was my initial response as well. But now I am starting to think along other lines.

Daz certainly has their own logic and long term strategy. Everyone assumes that Daz wants to get G7 into more platforms, but simply won't spend the money to make the necessary changes. However, what if both of those assumptions are false?

I propose that something changed at the corporate level a few years ago, which resulted in a new strategy. Daz actually doesn't want to share G7 - with anybody. The evidence is pretty much in our faces. Unlike in the past, Daz has obviously made no effort to get their latest creation (G7) into Poser or Carrara, or even the Unity engine. Instead, it appears to me that they are trying to protect and enhance the position of DS, by making it the only product that has G7 support.

In other words, they actually don't want G7 in Carrara. It dilutes their "brand." Even for the Unity engine, they are only offering Generation 6.

It's not shocking. This is how beancounters think, more often than not.

If I am right, then nothing can be done, except for hoping that talented Carrara (and Poser) enthusiasts find a way to work around their strategy.

Just speculation.

they do offer fbx and a collada exporter, 2 methods to use Genesis 3 in other apps. genesis 3 Is also tooted for unity and game development

a couple more screenshots.

the installer offers a few shaders in carrara transparency for cornea and eye moisture. eyelashes alpha mask, and angry robot eyes.

under presets, shaders, skin, genesis 3 carrara,

the default skins in the starter essentials use the aoa shader. which loads as 'lights out' in carrara. would recommend loading texture maps manually, or in DS convert the shaders.

MistyLaraPrincess posted at 3:53PM Wed, 22 March 2017 - #4300042

they do offer fbx and a collada exporter, 2 methods to use Genesis 3 in other apps. genesis 3 Is also tooted for unity and game development

Misty, I've seen your posts in older youtube Unity threads. AFAIK, Daz is not promoting G7 in Unity. It is being imported there by independents, much like you have done it.

FBX doesn't work in Carrara for G3... or else doing it the Unity way does not work in Carrara..... sorry am not savvy enough to mess with that.

Will it spoil things for you if you post the screenshot steps for DS>Carrara? I know that must be where things are going wrong for me. You seem to be able to do the transfer utility and get into Carrara. I can do that part, too. But I only get morphs, no posing control sliders want to work. The ready-poses work OK, but that's too limiting. I saw you had that at first from the videos, how did you get around it? I tried to watch very very closely but admit to being really puzzled. Easily done! Also, I am not sure about the clothing. I didn't copy those steps before the thread went down... just the main part.

I just cannot see how you get those POSE sliders to work in CARRARA. So it must be something in the transfer utility action?

I made a cool atlatl (spear thrower). My first model from scratch-ish. Now just need a G3M version of my young lad to fire it off.

Having a sad day with all the pain in London.... Silene

Hooray! Wow Misty the renders look incredible. Oh gosh... did I just exaggerate??... they look excellent! Congrats! I just checked the link you posted earlier... still no luck, darn. I'll try to check back often... gotta run... shopping.

this version wasnt made with the transfer utility.

saw 2 'communications' on pending, but no word about if and when it would go live. gifting button is dimmed.

wilgrfx posted at 7:57PM Wed, 22 March 2017 - #4300077

Hooray! Wow Misty the renders look incredible. Oh gosh... did I just exaggerate??... they look excellent! Congrats! I just checked the link you posted earlier... still no luck, darn. I'll try to check back often... gotta run... shopping.

hiya ty

Thank You everyone for your patience. and interest

and thank you wendy for beta-ing for me

Your Welcome Misty ?????❤️ FBX actually does work well for iClone so it is doable and from there go to Carrara but the Carrara FBX importer needs updating, to do it directly, not holding my breath on that! You have put a lot of effort into this and I hope it pays off. ????????

Hey Misty, this looks very exciting, thank you so much. Congrats too! sorry I didn't post earlier - couldn't remember my password! thanks for theheadsup Silene

well, this has got the Rendo/Carrara board up and going again

wendyvainity posted at 10:13AM Thu, 23 March 2017 - #4300097

Your Welcome Misty ?????❤️ FBX actually does work well for iClone so it is doable and from there go to Carrara but the Carrara FBX importer needs updating, to do it directly, not holding my breath on that! You have put a lot of effort into this and I hope it pays off. ????????

Wendy.....From the beginning when I joined the 'other' forums, I have leaned you are a true guru... a treasure-trove of experience and knowledge of all-things-3D. When I see how you come up with solutions, it means a lot because average users like myself would just throw up hands in despair. Then I see what you and others can do and that they share it. That is why I am so out-raged about how Misty was treated.

Have you done a tut/video on the FBX-iClone conversion I thought I remembered but the search utility in DAZ forums is useless.. Have tried to search for some beginner tuts in general for iClone that don't go over every single feature first.I have IClone but not used it yet. I am trying to work with Zbrush for making my palaeo tools and props, etc. I really like Zbrush as its so precise. But it has 1000+ tools I will never get round to working with, so am trying to concentrate on what I can do.

That is why I like Misty's idea. Yes, it's a workaround but it is a working workaround. And she has given a good deal of her time to make life better for Carrarians.

Silene

there is this one I have not really done a tute as such though discussed it a few times, exactly what are you having issues with? there are some by Reallusion for nonstandard figures that are more professional than I could do, on the Renderosity forums too.

Fantastic! Can't wait to try this! Kudos Misty! Please pardon my misspelled name. Mistakes like that actually cost money to correct over here! wtf?

Anyway... this is awesome!!!

Silene, are you having issues with support products? Here's the thing:

Do as Misty mentions with the blended weight thing, as she mentions on the previous page

Then save that result back into the library, with a new name, in the same structure so it's easily found in the same way the original item was

Now load that new item into Carrara for use on the new G3 for Carrara.

Example:

Let's change an imaginary coat

In Daz Studio Library, I find it under People > Genesis 3 Male > Clothing > Imaginary Coat

the coat is now in our library available for bringing into Daz Studio - so I load it in I now do the Blend Weights conversion

Now I save the coat back into the library, so during my save (as a figure support asset) a browse all the way to My Daz3d Library > People > Genesis 3 > Clothing > Imaginary Coat

Just to NOT overwrite the original, I call this one: "Coat4Carrara" or some other simple change so I can easily distinguish it

Now back in Carrara, I load in the Coat4Carrara, rather that the original Coat

Does that help?

Hi Dart... Glad you came to visit! We could do with a prosecco party soon I hope!

I do all the steps, it's just that I do not get the pose sliders working once into Carrara. Before the thread disappeared, I posted my renders. The G3 worked in Carrara if I used prepackaged poses, eg Feral Fey or some other G3 fashion ones. But no slider controls for posing (arms up/down, knees up, legs in out). I could not get those sliders to show up under ACTOR they only show up under the G3F-NEWNAME above that in the tree. No slider posing joy. So it's going to be a ...erm... Misty-ery until we get the tool.

I have wondered if it has something to do with the Windows 7.

**Wendy, **I will look at your threads/videos later in the weekend. Thanks for posting them.

I can't wait!! Silene

the pose controls don't work cuz the transfer utility didnt bring the ercs over. transfer utility is designed for clothes and hair, wouldnt want ercs and limits set on clothes, you should be able to select the bone directly and rotate with wire manipulator

you have the dson editor, ercs are in the subtrees called formula, you could copy them over from the original dsf to the transfer utility (the final) one 01,02,the one after 02

Dartagnon posted at 2:48PM Thu, 23 March 2017 - #4300129

Fantastic! Can't wait to try this! Kudos Misty! Please pardon my misspelled name. Mistakes like that actually cost money to correct over here! wtf?

Hiya Dart yeah, is like 10 bucks to change names.

is why i'se still a princess here instead of spinster or dowager, lol

status still in review. guessing everybody seein the snap page?

could make a screenshot ...

here's what it would look like lol. ...

oh this is like a template for linking an image lessee if gifs work

MistyLaraPrincess posted at 7:23PM Thu, 23 March 2017 - #4300149

the pose controls don't work cuz the transfer utility didnt bring the ercs over. transfer utility is designed for clothes and hair, wouldnt want ercs and limits set on clothes, you should be able to select the bone directly and rotate with wire manipulator

you have the dson editor, ercs are in the subtrees called formula, you could copy them over from the original dsf to the transfer utility (the final) one 01,02,the one after 02

Oh my... can I stop banging my head against the wall now? Why...it felt so good. Silene

TYVM... will work on this tomorrow. Your status looks like it's 'almost there' !!

dohhhh rmp installers don't start with a 'content' folder at root.

fixed it and resubmitted.

heya, i could offer it as a prize in the next render challenge

sounds good :)

Does sound promising! Ack, have granddaughter tomorrow so can't play, and new router coming today to sort my problem with broadband latency stuff or summat... hope to be around a bit. Fingers crossed it's released soon!