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Poser - OFFICIAL F.A.Q (Updated: 2019 Jun 20 8:35 am)


 Subject: Poser Has a New Base Figure!!

stallion opened this issue on Jan 29, 2019 · 965 posts

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  Afrodite-Ohki    ( ) ( posted at 3:26PM Tue, 02 April 2019  · @4349363

I'm just gonna mention that I've been away from Poser for years because everyone ran to Genesis and that doesn't work well in Poser and I really don't like DS. I literally returned to the Poser scene as a vendor BECAUSE LaFemme is made specially for Poser. I'm happy I can create only for the program I'm comfortable with.



  Deecey    ( ) ( posted at 3:55PM Tue, 02 April 2019  · @4349369

That was the intent. 8-)



  Afrodite-Ohki    ( ) ( posted at 4:06PM Tue, 02 April 2019  · @4349371

Deecey posted at 5:06PM Tue, 02 April 2019 - #4349369

That was the intent. 8-)

Bless your heart. 🤣



  Glitterati3D    ( ) ( posted at 4:23PM Tue, 02 April 2019  · @4349373

Afrodite-Ohki posted at 5:20PM Tue, 02 April 2019 - #4349363

I'm just gonna mention that I've been away from Poser for years because everyone ran to Genesis and that doesn't work well in Poser and I really don't like DS. I literally returned to the Poser scene as a vendor BECAUSE LaFemme is made specially for Poser. I'm happy I can create only for the program I'm comfortable with.

I actually quit doing Poser product at all because of all the sniping about Poser not having a decent figure and ignoring those that were good - like Dawn and Maise, etc.

I was hesitant when Blackhearted asked me to join in on the La Femme release, but am so glad I did. She's the best figure I've ever done rigging for and such a joy to use! Between her excellent modeling and rigging, and Nerd's Dev Kit, content creation has never been so much fun!


  thoennes    ( ) ( posted at 5:30AM Thu, 04 April 2019  · @4349448

I'm hoping (even) more iconic vendors like you guys have the time and inclination to dust off Poser and make some magic for La Femme. This is the most fun I've had since v4 (er, 4.2) was released waaaaay back in the early 21st.

I am of a mind to try a project using her. Initially, concept images. Eventually, perhaps, a comic. I find a project forces me to learn more.

One character is a young skater. She's coming together. I still have a lot to learn but I think La Femme will work nicely. The most difficult part in this setup was getting the friggin' bracelets to look like there is actually such a thing as gravity. The outfit is nothing like what the character will eventually wear but I needed something that looked ok, for now.

This might be a good time to mention... I'll also need a La Dude for this project. Just putting that out there ^.^

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  randym77    ( ) ( posted at 7:06AM Thu, 04 April 2019  · @4349452

Wow, she looks great, thoennes.

I, too, am hoping for a male counterpart.

I'd be more interested in Maisie if she had a male counterpart as well.


  Glitterati3D    ( ) ( posted at 7:09AM Thu, 04 April 2019  · @4349453

thoennes posted at 8:08AM Thu, 04 April 2019 - #4349448

I'm hoping (even) more iconic vendors like you guys have the time and inclination to dust off Poser and make some magic for La Femme. This is the most fun I've had since v4 (er, 4.2) was released waaaaay back in the early 21st.

I am of a mind to try a project using her. Initially, concept images. Eventually, perhaps, a comic. I find a project forces me to learn more.

One character is a young skater. She's coming together. I still have a lot to learn but I think La Femme will work nicely. The most difficult part in this setup was getting the friggin' bracelets to look like there is actually such a thing as gravity. The outfit is nothing like what the character will eventually wear but I needed something that looked ok, for now.

This might be a good time to mention... I'll also need a La Dude for this project. Just putting that out there ^.^

Oh, she's so CUTE!! A little thin, but adorable.


  operaguy    ( ) ( posted at 11:34AM Thu, 04 April 2019  · @4349464

Why not sculpt La Femme into La Dude? You could do it in Poser, using the given morphs and the Poser Morph Brush Tool. From BH's morphs he obviously could have muscles. You could add body and facial hair to femme skin maps.

:: og::


  tonyvilters    ( ) ( posted at 4:21PM Thu, 04 April 2019  · @4349480

The complete "la femme" figure hype is driven by the outstanding quality of the diffuse texture, (The great diffuse texture brings those beautiful renders) and the fantastic sculpting of the SubD mesh.

The non SubD obj file ( that also contains thousands of sharp edges) lacks any form or shape of human anatomy or muscle structure in arms or legs.

A "la femme quality check video" will be released in due time, because it is simply IMPOSSIBLE that anybody, ever, looked at the obj file, or the technical side of the rigging.

But she produces great renders thanks to an outstanding Diffuse texture and great sculpting.


  tonyvilters    ( ) ( posted at 4:55PM Thu, 04 April 2019 · edited on 4:55PM Thu, 04 April 2019 · @4349481

I used one example in a "shoe answer" on the SM forums.

https://forum.smithmicro.com/topic/9570/morph-in-smart-prop-controlled-by-bend-in-figure/7 The shin-foot-bend


  Afrodite-Ohki    ( ) ( posted at 5:44PM Thu, 04 April 2019  · @4349482

tonyvilters posted at 6:43PM Thu, 04 April 2019 - #4349481

I used one example in a "shoe answer" on the SM forums.

https://forum.smithmicro.com/topic/9570/morph-in-smart-prop-controlled-by-bend-in-figure/7 The shin-foot-bend

I ended up just making conforming shoes for that - worked really well for me.

And really, she's rigged better than I've ever seen for Poser - she bends gracefully and quite realistically from what I've seen. Her topology might not be the best for this, but I don't think it's hurting anything that we have her subdivided. She works really well for me.



  Deecey    ( ) ( posted at 7:33PM Thu, 04 April 2019 · edited on 7:34PM Thu, 04 April 2019 · @4349485

tonyvilters posted at 8:27PM Thu, 04 April 2019 - #4349480

The complete "la femme" figure hype is driven by the outstanding quality of the diffuse texture, (The great diffuse texture brings those beautiful renders) and the fantastic sculpting of the SubD mesh.

The non SubD obj file ( that also contains thousands of sharp edges) lacks any form or shape of human anatomy or muscle structure in arms or legs.

A "la femme quality check video" will be released in due time, because it is simply IMPOSSIBLE that anybody, ever, looked at the obj file, or the technical side of the rigging.

But she produces great renders thanks to an outstanding Diffuse texture and great sculpting.

"that also contains thousands of sharp edges"

What sharp edges would those be, Tony? The mesh looks perfectly fine in Modo. Would you like to see? You and I have talked about these "sharp edges" before. I am not sure what Blender considers "sharp edges", as I can't see them in Modo. So it has to be something Blender specific. It must have something to do with smoothing and normals, and how different applications handle them. Since Poser discards normal information anyway, what is the point of smoothing the normals to "unsharp" them ?

As far as your quality check" video that will no doubt trash LaFemme as you have already repeatedly done in the SM forum, I have no idea why you feel it so important to do that. I have no idea where your animosity is coming from, and what your issue is. But it appears to be trolling for some unknown reason that I can't determine.



  caisson    ( ) ( posted at 7:50PM Thu, 04 April 2019  · @4349486

La Femme's topology is designed for multi-resolution morphing in addition to animation, meaning that morphs can be sculpted at increasing levels of subdivision for increasing levels of detail. That places different demands on the topology compared to a figure that is only intended to be morphed at the base resolution, that's why La Femme's mesh looks different to many other Poser figures - it's supposed to!

Wrote above before seeing Deecey's post - yep, I would also assume that the 'sharp edges' comment is a normal issue, and completely agree there would be no point in having smooth normals in the obj file as Poser will ignore them. I expect Blender doesn't smooth normals by default - the Smooth button is available in the Tool Shelf when in Object mode according to the manual ...


  nerd    ( ) ( posted at 8:04PM Thu, 04 April 2019  · @4349487

tonyvilters posted at 5:53PM Thu, 04 April 2019 - #4349481

I used one example in a "shoe answer" on the SM forums.

https://forum.smithmicro.com/topic/9570/morph-in-smart-prop-controlled-by-bend-in-figure/7 The shin-foot-bend

There's actually an extremely important technical reason why the foot's center is where it is but since your the expert I'm sure I don't need to explain it to you. I'll let you explain it.


  Afrodite-Ohki    ( ) ( posted at 8:50PM Thu, 04 April 2019  · @4349489

I'm not an expert, all I can say is that her movements look very natural to me.

As for that thread with the shoe "problem" - I've had that same issue when I made that shoe for V4 (if I recall, I just permanently pulled the top back part back further to make room for her bend) and for Dawn (then I added morphs to be manually controlled), it's simply a matter of where the shoe ends by the back of the figure's ankle, will happen to every single figure because of the nature of bending ankles, I don't understand what seemed to be the problem with the position of the joint center for you in my case.

(In fact, this is the first time I've attempted to rig a pre-posed high heel shoe as a figure ever, and this is due to how user-friendly La Femme and her dev rig are. Took me less than an hour for the actual rig, as I didn't use the bones for the metatarsals and toes.)



  Deecey    ( ) ( posted at 8:54PM Thu, 04 April 2019 · edited on 8:59PM Thu, 04 April 2019 · @4349490

caisson posted at 9:51PM Thu, 04 April 2019 - #4349486

La Femme's topology is designed for multi-resolution morphing in addition to animation, meaning that morphs can be sculpted at increasing levels of subdivision for increasing levels of detail. That places different demands on the topology compared to a figure that is only intended to be morphed at the base resolution, that's why La Femme's mesh looks different to many other Poser figures - it's supposed to!

Wrote above before seeing Deecey's post - yep, I would also assume that the 'sharp edges' comment is a normal issue, and completely agree there would be no point in having smooth normals in the obj file as Poser will ignore them. I expect Blender doesn't smooth normals by default - the Smooth button is available in the Tool Shelf when in Object mode according to the manual ...

For as many unkind things that Tony has posted about LaFemme, I have never once posted anything negative about the figure he has created. I may have questioned his reasons for doing things the way he is, but I've never called his figure "trash" or "garbage."

There's a saying. One man's trash is another's treasure.

I honestly don't understand why he's on this odd mission of his. But it's really not all that cool, and is coming across as trolling.



  Glitterati3D    ( ) ( posted at 10:51AM Fri, 05 April 2019  · @4349507

Just having some fun with pregnant La Femme.

PregnantLaFemme.jpg


  Afrodite-Ohki    ( ) ( posted at 4:33PM Fri, 05 April 2019  · @4349523

Teaser for upcoming pair of shoes 😇 image.png



  Miss B    ( ) ( posted at 5:35PM Fri, 05 April 2019  · @4349528

Looking good. 😉

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OK . . . Where's my chocolate?

Butterfly Dezignz


  Afrodite-Ohki    ( ) ( posted at 6:48PM Fri, 05 April 2019  · @4349534

Thank ye lady B 😄



  jartz    ( ) ( posted at 1:32AM Sat, 06 April 2019 · edited on 1:34AM Sat, 06 April 2019 · @4349543

Here's a project I been working on. I want to make this a dynamic clothing of just the Ruffled Top and Sarong. What do you guys think? Using antje's Retro Textures and TrekkieGirl's PE Flats fitted for LF.

SummerSet Ruffled Top and Sarong 3dRtz 1a.jpg

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  RobZhena    ( ) ( posted at 6:20AM Sat, 06 April 2019  · @4349549

Afrodite-Ohki posted at 7:19AM Sat, 06 April 2019 - #4349523

Teaser for upcoming pair of shoes 😇 image.png

Stunning!


  Afrodite-Ohki    ( ) ( posted at 8:41AM Sat, 06 April 2019 · edited on 8:41AM Sat, 06 April 2019 · @4349557

Thanks! Another :3

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  randym77    ( ) ( posted at 10:49AM Sat, 06 April 2019  · @4349562

@jartz - Very cute. I like dynamic clothes, and that style looks well suited for dynamic rather than conforming.


  Miss B    ( ) ( posted at 2:59PM Sat, 06 April 2019  · @4349582

randym77 posted at 3:59PM Sat, 06 April 2019 - #4349562

@jartz - Very cute. I like dynamic clothes, and that style looks well suited for dynamic rather than conforming.

I have to agree. A very cute outfit that will sim nicely in the Cloth Room.

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OK . . . Where's my chocolate?

Butterfly Dezignz


  Miss B    ( ) ( posted at 3:03PM Sat, 06 April 2019  · @4349583

Afrodite-Ohki posted at 4:02PM Sat, 06 April 2019 - #4349534

Thank ye lady B 😄

You're quite welcome, and I'm liking that new one as well. I was hoping you were planning on some leather/material sets as well.

_______________

OK . . . Where's my chocolate?

Butterfly Dezignz


  Afrodite-Ohki    ( ) ( posted at 5:11PM Sat, 06 April 2019  · @4349595

Miss B posted at 6:10PM Sat, 06 April 2019 - #4349583

Afrodite-Ohki posted at 4:02PM Sat, 06 April 2019 - #4349534

Thank ye lady B 😄

You're quite welcome, and I'm liking that new one as well. I was hoping you were planning on some leather/material sets as well.

Worry not - I got you covered.

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It comes with 4 fabric options, 4 leathers, 4 plastics with transparent parts, 4 suede-like with transparent parts. The same ones as the Clonky Shoes - the colors match ;)



  movida    ( ) ( posted at 5:21PM Sat, 06 April 2019  · @4349596

Oh those are HOT :)


  Afrodite-Ohki    ( ) ( posted at 5:25PM Sat, 06 April 2019  · @4349598

I'm glad you like them!



  Glitterati3D    ( ) ( posted at 8:35PM Sat, 06 April 2019  · @4349620

Afrodite-Ohki posted at 9:33PM Sat, 06 April 2019 - #4349595

It comes with 4 fabric options, 4 leathers, 4 plastics with transparent parts, 4 suede-like with transparent parts. The same ones as the Clonky Shoes - the colors match ;)

Oh, they will look really good with my Little Black Dress and Stockings!

LittleBlackDress.jpg


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