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 Subject: NO MORE FLASH!!!!!!

mamba-negra opened this issue on Dec 12, 2014 · 48 posts

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  pumeco    ( ) ( posted at 5:16AM Mon, 15 December 2014 · edited on 5:16AM Mon, 15 December 2014 · @4184343

Exactly, FightingWolf, but I refuse, point blank, to own anything that Apple produces - so Apple's disgusting data-mining isn't of interest to me :-)
The only obvious spyware on my system, is Adobe's Flash Player, and I'll be permanently rid of that on my next installation.

I've no interest in having poorly performing, dead technology that incorporates spyware, installed on my computer - never have, and never will.
Obviously, I have no problem with Poser accessing other code libraries, but not ones that require the installation of spyware in order to use them.


  bagginsbill    ( ) ( posted at 9:17AM Mon, 15 December 2014 · edited on 9:19AM Mon, 15 December 2014 · @4184357

MODIFIED MY POST

I thought I found how to turn on the HTML library. I didn't manage it.

Hang on - I'll be back.


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  pumeco    ( ) ( posted at 9:25AM Mon, 15 December 2014  · @4184358

Cheers Baggins!

I don't have Pro, well, only the previous version, but if Flash manages to survive even next release, it's great to hear it can be disabled.
Thanks again!


  wolf359    ( ) ( posted at 9:53AM Mon, 15 December 2014  · @4184360

"But most apple users don't use security software like firewalls so blocking it may is not possible and Mac users seem to be the only ones with this issue"

I have both a Mac and a new PC

On My Mac I run "Littlesnitch"

which allows selective blocking of incoming&outgoing

internet communications for any application I choose to block.

"Zone Alarm" on my windows Machine has the same function.

As far as the"Flash issue" it was supplanted by HTML5 because it was not really 

useful for the explosive growth of mobile TOUCH screen devices

that could not use the"Mouse roll over" function so central to FLASH for web content

So you will likely never see a tablet version of poser as long as it uses FLASH for its 

content library.

LOL!!  I stopped buying poser after version 6 

so I am not really affected by its current library setup.



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  wolf359    ( ) ( posted at 10:05AM Mon, 15 December 2014  · @4184363

"See even Apple does what adobe does and more"

ALL Corporations do it.

Frankly and if one is that concerned about "corporate spyware"

disconnect &run your system in a "Faraday Cage" to assure it never connects to the web

and it will never get to "call home" and report what info it has collected by you.

We are in the age of "Big Data" and that Data has to be collected somehow

that is the reality in which we live.



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  pumeco    ( ) ( posted at 10:19AM Mon, 15 December 2014  · @4184368

"Frankly and if one is that concerned about "corporate spyware"

disconnect &run your system in a "Faraday Cage" to assure it never connects to the web

and it will never get to "call home" and report what info it has collected by you."

Nah, Wolf, I have no concern about my computer being connected to the web.  Don't need a Faraday cage either cause I use a safe, non-commercial OS called Debian and have complete control over absolutely everything that comes into and goes out of it.

I only use my Windows machine for programs I've still to replace and use on Debian.  Poser is one of them, and it's the only reason I tolerated Flash on the Windows installation.  I'm pleased Baggins might have found a way, because it really would have been the end of Poser for me otherwise.  There's only a few more things I need to try on Debian, and then I'll never have to use Windows again!

Wheeeeeeeee :-D


  bagginsbill    ( ) ( posted at 10:30AM Mon, 15 December 2014  · @4184370

OK I think I found the setting - it was introduced in Poser 10 and then rescinded - probably because it doesn't work right somehow.

Exit Poser if it's running.

Find your poser.ini - the path may differ for you - mine is in

c:/Users//AppData/Roaming/Poser Pro/10

In your poser.ini look for 

LIBRARY_EMBEDDED_TYPE 0

and change the 0 to a 1.

In Poser 10, this is (I think) all you would do. For Pro 2014, you'd need to choose the embedded library as well with this line:

LIBRARY_IS_AIR 0


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  bagginsbill    ( ) ( posted at 10:31AM Mon, 15 December 2014 · edited on 10:32AM Mon, 15 December 2014 · @4184371

This HTML library is very primitive in ability and appearance - I hate it and won't use it, but to each his own.

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  FightingWolf    ( ) ( posted at 10:35AM Mon, 15 December 2014  · @4184372

Exactly, FightingWolf, but I refuse, point blank, to own anything that Apple produces - so Apple's disgusting data-mining isn't of interest to me :-)

ha ha ha.. Ok.  you don't have apple, then Microsoft OS does the same thing. lol. Microsoft does it with their office products as well.

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  AmbientShade    ( ) ( posted at 10:49AM Mon, 15 December 2014  · @4184376

@FightingWolf - There are versions of Linux that are supposedly spyware free. 

However, there is talk of spyware being built directly into various components such as mother boards these days, which will make whatever OS you use irrelevant no matter how open source it may be. Data mining is big business, and that business isn't going to let something like an OS get in their way. They will come up with other ways to collect info. 

Anyway, stop arguing and keep the thread on track. 

I don't see how Flash is so dead, since so many software titles still require it and much of what exists to supposedly relpace it still hasn't lived up to the claim, even HTML 5. 

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  pumeco    ( ) ( posted at 10:51AM Mon, 15 December 2014  · @4184377

@Baggins
It might not be colour coded but it looks fine to me, and I only have the browser open to bring in content anyway.
Will try it out later, thanks!

@FightingWolf
lol - I think you missed my previous post to that other Wolf of the forum ;-)


  pumeco    ( ) ( posted at 10:57AM Mon, 15 December 2014  · @4184380

@Shane
Just a heads-up, the Raspberry Pi is believed to have safe hardware and BIOS, so hopefully they cannot manipulate it with a safe installation on board.
You can run Debian on it, so hopefully a safe, self-contained web machine :-)


  ssgbryan    ( ) ( posted at 11:03AM Mon, 15 December 2014  · @4184381

@FightingWolf - There are versions of Linux that are supposedly spyware free. 

However, there is talk of spyware being built directly into various components such as mother boards these days, which will make whatever OS you use irrelevant no matter how open source it may be. Data mining is big business, and that business isn't going to let something like an OS get in their way. They will come up with other ways to collect info. 

Anyway, stop arguing and keep the thread on track. 

I don't see how Flash is so dead, since so many software titles still require it and much of what exists to supposedly relpace it still hasn't lived up to the claim, even HTML 5. 

The original selling point of HTML 5 was that the enduser would not have the ability to block ads made with it. - Which makes it a fine replacement for Flash as far as Steve Jobs was concerned - (iAds was supposed to be the next big thing.  How did that turn out, anyway?)



  FightingWolf    ( ) ( posted at 11:30AM Mon, 15 December 2014  · @4184385

We are in the age of "Big Data" and that Data has to be collected somehow that is the reality in which we live.

This is very true. People use the cards from grocery stores for additional savings and what the customers don't realize is that the store is tracking purchasing habits and what products you buy.  It's not just a software or web browsing thing.  Business understand the value of collecting this information and they get a lot of it, which is  why the government (won't say names lol) goes to these companies to get information about people.

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  FightingWolf    ( ) ( posted at 11:57AM Mon, 15 December 2014  · @4184388

@FightingWolf - There are versions of Linux that are supposedly spyware free. 

..Anyway, stop arguing and keep the thread on track. 

I don't see how Flash is so dead, since so many software titles still require it and much of what exists to supposedly relpace it still hasn't lived up to the claim, even HTML 5. 

No argument here. I just think the OP was focused on the Flash being spyware instead of just asking if there was another way view the library without using adobe to do it.  Bagginsbill has already provided the solution that should address the OP desire not to use flash.  The rest of the conversation was just to point out that "data collecting" goes on every where and no system is immune to it. Companies come straight out and say that they are collecting the data, so at that point it's no longer "spyware" if they are telling you that they are collecting that type of data.

I agree with you Flash isn't dead, but the way we know it is dying.  Flash will have to undergo some changes in order to remain competitive to HTML5 (assuming that HTML5 will always seek improvements). Some things are just easier to do in flash especially when it come to the advertising industry.  Advertising and Gaming industries are big users of flash.

From what I can tell most people who think of flash only thinks of its use in website development and compare that with HTML5.  In terms of website development, flash has been dead for many years now, but that's not the only market that it was operating in. Some of those other markets depend on flash simply because HTML5 can't do the job.

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  pumeco    ( ) ( posted at 6:11PM Tue, 16 December 2014  · @4184561

"OK I think I found the setting - it was introduced in Poser 10 and then rescinded - probably because it doesn't work right somehow.

Exit Poser if it's running.

Find your poser.ini - the path may differ for you - mine is in

c:/Users//AppData/Roaming/Poser Pro/10

In your poser.ini look for 

LIBRARY_EMBEDDED_TYPE 0

and change the 0 to a 1.

In Poser 10, this is (I think) all you would do. For Pro 2014, you'd need to choose the embedded library as well with this line:

LIBRARY_IS_AIR 0"

Just a courteous confirmation; this worked perfect on Poser 10.
Thanks again, much appreciated.


  12rounds    ( ) ( posted at 10:16AM Thu, 18 December 2014  · @4184718

I've used ShaderWork's Advanced Library Manager since it came out years and years ago to replace Poser's own library system. I'm using Poser on linux and haven't bothered to install those pesky Adobe add-ons since they are only needed by the library browser.

There's no need to use Flash/Air components if one chooses not to do so. Third party library alternatives have been around for quite some time. So I don't really see what's the issue in the first place.


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