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 Subject: Helping Poser Newbies

basicwiz opened this issue on Apr 23, 2012 · 485 posts

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  hborre    ( ) ( posted at 12:11PM Thu, 24 May 2012  · @3933542

Wouldn't it be convenient to just link the runtime as an external rather than merge?  Merging Poser runtimes is taboo especially from earlier to current versions.  Internal scripts will become completely corrupted and unusable since scripting has changed since P4.

The most involved method but most secure, open each file folder and copy content folders into their appropriate locations.  This avoids overwriting any particular section and keeps everything intact.  Now, I do believe there is unzipping programs which will do exactly what you want with new content.  But I can't provide any further help because I'm strictly PC.


  FutureFantasyDesign    ( ) ( posted at 1:14PM Thu, 24 May 2012  · @3933574

Best unzipping tool.

Winrar does two great functions... "Extract Files" and that allows you to choose where to download the open file to a directory of your choice. And "Extract Here" which is my favorite choice as it lets me look at the folder, make sure all of the tree folders are correct and then install into my outside runtime. This function DOES NOT work with installers like Bitrock from Daz or other installer forms. Those generally have a directory option in them as default, but also most allow you to choose where to direct the folder to.

~A~

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Water, the ultimate weapon...

www.futurefantasydesign.com


  hornet3d    ( ) ( posted at 1:20PM Thu, 24 May 2012  · @3933577

Quote - Best unzipping tool.

Winrar does two great functions... "Extract Files" and that allows you to choose where to download the open file to a directory of your choice. And "Extract Here" which is my favorite choice as it lets me look at the folder, make sure all of the tree folders are correct and then install into my outside runtime. This function DOES NOT work with installers like Bitrock from Daz or other installer forms. Those generally have a directory option in them as default, but also most allow you to choose where to direct the folder to.

~A~

 

I'll second that.  I use Winrar all the time and by double clicking on zip file you can see the file structure even before extraction, another good feature.

 

 

I use Poser Pro 2014 on Windows 7 - Set up is a quiet running PC thanks mainly to a Fractal design F4 case and 6 large fans, a Seasonic 850w X-series PSU.  Setup is Intel i7 3770k, Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP5-TH with 60G m-sata to accelearate one 1TB Hard drive, Gigabyte 2Gig 7850 and 32Gig ram (6X2).  Storage is 1 X 180G SSD, 1X 2Tb Samsung Ecos + 2 X 1tb Spinpoint F3s.


  hborre    ( ) ( posted at 3:11PM Thu, 24 May 2012  · @3933613

And winrar comes in both PC and MAC flavors and covers various other formats as well.


  Xfitz    ( ) ( posted at 6:26PM Thu, 24 May 2012  · @3933677

I would like to say thanks for the help. However, I must admit that I am still very confused altho I was able to open the New Content Runtime Folder and drag the subfolders (i.e. character, pose, textures, etc.) into appropriate Daz Runtime folders (character, pose, textures, etc). And now I can direct Poser to those Daz content files and use the product, but the whole process seems complicated. (And I am not clear about what I would do if I did not already have Daz installed on my computer.) Is there a reason Poser content does not come with installers the same way content sold for and by Daz does? Previously in this forum someone posted a sheet titled: Where To Put (or find) Poser Files, which I copied and studied before posting my question, but it still assumes familiarity with Poser that Newbees lack. And for those of us who came to computers late in life, fussing around inside folders is downright scary. No telling what we'll screw up when we start moving files and folders about.

As for Winrar, I am not familiar with this software and I will look into it, but I sense that the same problem still lurks for us Newbees: It is not readily apparent where the appropriate folders are in Poser, so we will still not know where to direct the folder(s) to.

I don't mean to gripe. I realize the fault lies with my inexperience with computer file and folder structures. Truly, thanks for nudging me in the right direction. 


  FutureFantasyDesign    ( ) ( posted at 12:45AM Fri, 25 May 2012 · edited on 12:49AM Fri, 25 May 2012 · @3933772


Quote - I would like to say thanks for the help. However, I must admit that I am still very confused altho I was able to open the New Content Runtime Folder and drag the subfolders (i.e. character, pose, textures, etc.) into appropriate Daz Runtime folders (character, pose, textures, etc). And now I can direct Poser to those Daz content files and use the product, but the whole process seems complicated. (And I am not clear about what I would do if I did not already have Daz installed on my computer.) Is there a reason Poser content does not come with installers the same way content sold for and by Daz does? Previously in this forum someone posted a sheet titled: Where To Put (or find) Poser Files, which I copied and studied before posting my question, but it still assumes familiarity with Poser that Newbees lack. And for those of us who came to computers late in life, fussing around inside folders is downright scary. No telling what we'll screw up when we start moving files and folders about.

As for Winrar, I am not familiar with this software and I will look into it, but I sense that the same problem still lurks for us Newbees: It is not readily apparent where the appropriate folders are in Poser, so we will still not know where to direct the folder(s) to.

I don't mean to gripe. I realize the fault lies with my inexperience with computer file and folder structures. Truly, thanks for nudging me in the right direction. 

Here is some help. First go through your runtime, I assume you render with poser? That does make a huge difference to how your files upload. DS puts them in a totally different place then files inside poser. When installing into poser, well how many files do you have, how many do you think you might buy in the future? That is why a lot of people use what is called an "OUTSIDE Runtime". This is where you create a folder with a tree hierarchy. See the SS for you that I use. As an example.  When installing, honestly you should not have to go into the runtime and shuffle files.

Now open the poser folder, look for any "loose" runtimes. Sometimes I have had a runtime load outside of the actual runtime folder in another file inside of poser. So check for misplaced runtimes first. If you find one then cut and paste it into the poser folder where the file called Runtime lives. It will ask if you want to replace the current one, just say yes, it only adds what is not in there to the original. If you do not find any loose runtimes in the files in the poser folder, THEN open your original runtime folder and look in each file in there.

The 3 main folders in your runtime are Geometries/Libraries/Textures. If you find any files called Runtime in any of those folders, do as I said with  loose runtimes from elsewhere, cut and paste into the main poser folder where the original runtime lives.

I suggest you get a free 30 day trial of Winrar (*link> http://download.cnet.com/WinRAR-32-bit/3000-2250_4-10007677.html 32 bit or http://download.cnet.com/WinRAR-64-bit/3000-2250_4-10965579.html 64 bit, both versions have a 30 day trial. And at $29.00 to buy it is a good investment.

Now as to where poser files go. Are you using both DS and Poser? If so select on the installer to download to a location of your choice first, save your poser versions in a seperate folder and then download the Daz Studio files to another folder that you create. Remember that Daz Studio lights and texture (*and others) files are completely different from their poser versions. So you want to keep them seperate for your sanities sake! ;)

If I was redundant I apologize. But I hope this helps. Nothing is more of a nightmare then trying to shuffle two different versions of the same product.

~A~

Is there water in your future or is it being shipped away to be resold to you?
Water, the ultimate weapon...

www.futurefantasydesign.com


  WandW    ( ) ( posted at 7:34AM Fri, 25 May 2012  · @3933812

Quote - Best unzipping tool.

I use 7-Zip.  It will run on practically any current operating system (and many older ones too), and it's Free Open-Source software...

http://www.7-zip.org/download.html

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  celticfire    ( ) ( posted at 4:08PM Fri, 25 May 2012  · @3933960

Hi, so I finally transitioned from D/S to Poser, and here is my first question in what I'm sure will be a long list of questions I'll be posting here;

 

How do I get my content from Daz to Poser without using up even more of my hd space? I don't want to have two 168 gig runtimes in both Poser and D/S.


  Xfitz    ( ) ( posted at 8:17PM Fri, 25 May 2012  · @3934041

To: Future Fantasy Design or Anyone else who can help.

I read (and re-read several times) your instructions. I have a follow up question: Where do I put the OUTSIDE RUNTIME FOLDER once I complete it? How will Poser know where to find it?Also what happens when I try to load Lights? Where do Light files go?

Also, I did not find any misplaced Runtime folders inside Poser, probably because I have not bought hardly any content for Poser since I don't know how to load it. However, I would like to get started acquiring more Poser content but I need to get a handle on how to manage those files first. 

 


  FutureFantasyDesign    ( ) ( posted at 12:33AM Sat, 26 May 2012 · edited on 12:38AM Sat, 26 May 2012 · @3934104

Quote - To: Future Fantasy Design or Anyone else who can help.

I read (and re-read several times) your instructions. I have a follow up question: Where do I put the OUTSIDE RUNTIME FOLDER once I complete it? How will Poser know where to find it?Also what happens when I try to load Lights? Where do Light files go?

Also, I did not find any misplaced Runtime folders inside Poser, probably because I have not bought hardly any content for Poser since I don't know how to load it. However, I would like to get started acquiring more Poser content but I need to get a handle on how to manage those files first. 

 

Hi again! :)

I put it on your "D" drive (*or your secondary drive). How much space do you have to set aside for your Outside RT? Create your folder name it something like My OSRT, so that it does not create conflict or confusion. Set up your "Tree" folders in there. V4 M4 Lights however you are going to seperate it.

Is there water in your future or is it being shipped away to be resold to you?
Water, the ultimate weapon...

www.futurefantasydesign.com


  FutureFantasyDesign    ( ) ( posted at 12:59AM Sat, 26 May 2012 · edited on 1:00AM Sat, 26 May 2012 · @3934108

*Sorry for above power glitch!

Quote - To: Future Fantasy Design or Anyone else who can help.

I read (and re-read several times) your instructions. I have a follow up question: Where do I put the OUTSIDE RUNTIME FOLDER once I complete it? How will Poser know where to find it?Also what happens when I try to load Lights? Where do Light files go?

Also, I did not find any misplaced Runtime folders inside Poser, probably because I have not bought hardly any content for Poser since I don't know how to load it. However, I would like to get started acquiring more Poser content but I need to get a handle on how to manage those files first. 

 

Hi again! :)

I put it on your "D" drive (*or your secondary drive). How much space do you have to set aside for your Outside RT? Create your folder name it something like My OSRT, so that it does not create conflict or confusion. Set up your "Tree" folders in there. V4 M4 Lights however you are going to seperate it.

Then when you download a file, download it to the folder that you have designated for that item. A light set will be downloaded into the folder called Lights, etc. Since you do not have a lot of content, why not create your OS RT and do a fresh install into each of your tree folders? Then you will have them in the correct folders, and when you unzip them, thay will just stay where they are!

How will poser know... Well it does not matter what version you have, all versions have this little + sign at the top of the library in poser. You click on that and a window opens up, you just navigate to your outside runtime, select the file you need and load it! After you are finished you can leave it there for future work or just delete the folder using the - minus sign next to the + plus sign.  Once you do this once or twice it will be like second nature!

The lights can either live inside of poser, or in an outside folder as we discussed. If you have very few light sets, or ones that you use all the time, it is fine to just load them into poser. If you want them to live in the poser program, just open your light set zip, it contains a folder called only "Runtime", copy that folder, and then paste it into the poser folder where the main runtime lives as I mentioned before, and it will install all by itself, you need to do nothing else. Don't confuse yourself by opening the folder and thinking you need to move or fix anything. It knows where to go and what to go into! :) If you do get a "bad" product, where something is missing. Sitemail the vendor, let them know that it won't install and they can help to trouble shoot it for you. Or I am sure it would be fine to post here, usually if there is an issue with a product, more then one person will be aware of it.

So recap, just reinstall all of the content you have purchased to a new folder as a fresh install

Open the zip and copy/paste it into the location of your choice. (*Outside RT, or Poser RT)

Your lights load in poser, the icons vary a tiny bit from each version, if you let us know what version you are using, I or someone can post a SS of where to select your lightset! I own 5/6/7/PP2010/PP2012 so I have most of the versions.

Anything else don't hesitate to ask. Remeber everyone starts off at the same level. Don't panic, it really will come to you, it just sometimes takes time to get all the details straight!!! ;)

Ariana

Is there water in your future or is it being shipped away to be resold to you?
Water, the ultimate weapon...

www.futurefantasydesign.com


  RHaseltine    ( ) ( posted at 3:49PM Sat, 26 May 2012  · @3934330

Quote - Hi, so I finally transitioned from D/S to Poser, and here is my first question in what I'm sure will be a long list of questions I'll be posting here;

 

How do I get my content from Daz to Poser without using up even more of my hd space? I don't want to have two 168 gig runtimes in both Poser and D/S.

In Poser, just select all the folders you had selected as Poser Content Directories in DS as library folders - as with DS, it's the folder that holds the Runtime folder you want. In recent versions of Poser you click the folder with a + at the top of the library pane to add a new location.


  celticfire    ( ) ( posted at 4:51PM Sat, 26 May 2012  · @3934354

Quote - > Quote - Hi, so I finally transitioned from D/S to Poser, and here is my first question in what I'm sure will be a long list of questions I'll be posting here;

 

How do I get my content from Daz to Poser without using up even more of my hd space? I don't want to have two 168 gig runtimes in both Poser and D/S.

In Poser, just select all the folders you had selected as Poser Content Directories in DS as library folders - as with DS, it's the folder that holds the Runtime folder you want. In recent versions of Poser you click the folder with a + at the top of the library pane to add a new location.

 

Yes I did that but it only loaded two things by Xurge, I know I have the right folder too cause I've checked five times now. Grrrrrr! It's so frustrating!


  RHaseltine    ( ) ( posted at 8:49AM Sun, 27 May 2012  · @3934522

You're sure you have selected exactly the same folders in both Poser and DS? And of course that the files are in Poser format.


  Xfitz    ( ) ( posted at 2:39PM Sun, 27 May 2012  · @3934687

I somehow managed to overwrite all my Prop Files that came with Poser 8 with a single Prop file from something called Wedding Rings.

My question (for the moment) is how can I get those Prop files back?

My first impulse was to delete Poser 8 and then install it again since I have not as yet bought any content for Poser that I care about losing. But, before doing that I want to be sure that Poser will allow me to re-install the Program.

Again, I'd appreciate any advise.


  basicwiz    ( ) ( posted at 2:48PM Sun, 27 May 2012  · @3934696

There is, I believe, a separate content installer for Poser. Try running JUST that.


  Xfitz    ( ) ( posted at 10:31AM Mon, 28 May 2012  · @3934977

Quote - There is, I believe, a separate content installer for Poser. Try running JUST that.

 I hate to sound so dumb - this of course coming from someone who justs erased all his Prop folders - but I do not know what or where the Content Installer is. In DAZ I can retrieve lost files by resetting my Order List or just reinstalling from my download folder where I left the original installers. But I am new to Poser and don't know how to get those Prop Files back.


  FutureFantasyDesign    ( ) ( posted at 2:00PM Mon, 28 May 2012 · edited on 2:00PM Mon, 28 May 2012 · @3935063

Quote - I hate to sound so dumb - this of course coming from someone who justs erased all his Prop folders - but I do not know what or where the Content Installer is. In DAZ I can retrieve lost files by resetting my Order List or just reinstalling from my download folder where I left the original installers. But I am new to Poser and don't know how to get those Prop Files back.

I think you may be making your problem too complicated. As you have already said, you have very little content now. Why not just uninstall poser, and re-install clean, using the outside RT set up you have now and all your issues will be resolved!? When all else fails, re-install and start with a fresh copy and set up!

Problem solved.

Ariana

Is there water in your future or is it being shipped away to be resold to you?
Water, the ultimate weapon...

www.futurefantasydesign.com


  Xfitz    ( ) ( posted at 11:36PM Tue, 29 May 2012  · @3935857

Quote - > Quote - I hate to sound so dumb - this of course coming from someone who justs erased all his Prop folders - but I do not know what or where the Content Installer is. In DAZ I can retrieve lost files by resetting my Order List or just reinstalling from my download folder where I left the original installers. But I am new to Poser and don't know how to get those Prop Files back.

I think you may be making your problem too complicated. As you have already said, you have very little content now. Why not just uninstall poser, and re-install clean, using the outside RT set up you have now and all your issues will be resolved!? When all else fails, re-install and start with a fresh copy and set up!

Problem solved.

Ariana

I wish. I did reinstall Poser 8 on my MAC but now it will not recognize DAZ PEOPLE which is the folder where V4 and M4 live. When I first opened up the re-installed POSER the DAZ PEOPLE folder was there, then the next time I opened up POSER it was gone even though Ican find it the RUNTIME TREE, under Libraries/Character where it is suppose to be? There could be other problems as well that I have not discovered yet. 

ALso, I tried to install POSER 8 on my PC (XP Operating System) in my Photography Studio but when I tried to open it up after installing it I received a message that "Application has failed because CONFIG is incorrect..."

If you have any suggestions, I am game. If not, I honestly appreciate all the time and comments you have put forth to date.

 

 

 


  wellender    ( ) ( posted at 9:52AM Wed, 30 May 2012  · @3936020

I am having a weird problem I hope someone can help with.  I am running Poser 9 on a Windows 7 machine. 

I recently bought a new computer and had Poser 9 on it.  I had everything running fine but the computer was a buggy piece of junk so I exchanged it for a new one.  I installed Poser 9 on it and things are not the same.  I am having a problem with Michael 4 and morph packages both from Daz and from the marketplace here.  No matter what I do, I can't get Michael to accept the morph injection properly.  If you look at the undo menu, it shows up as being there, but no change happens to the figure.

The wierd part is if I load a scene that I had on the previous computer, the Michaels in those scenes will take the injection.  If I add a new Michael to the scene he won't take the morph injection but the others will.  Any thoughts?


  hborre    ( ) ( posted at 10:39AM Wed, 30 May 2012 · edited on 10:40AM Wed, 30 May 2012 · @3936039

Did you reinitialize and update the M4 reinstallation? 

Edit: Must be done after base and after every morph package.


  wellender    ( ) ( posted at 10:43AM Wed, 30 May 2012 · edited on 10:44AM Wed, 30 May 2012 · @3936041

Yes I did.  I even re-installed M4 and Morphs ++ when I noticed the problem. 


  hborre    ( ) ( posted at 10:47AM Wed, 30 May 2012 · edited on 10:48AM Wed, 30 May 2012 · @3936043

Are you using External Binary Morph in Poser?  Check under General Preferences to see if this feature is activated.

Edit: What was your previous computer OS?


  wellender    ( ) ( posted at 10:48AM Wed, 30 May 2012 · edited on 10:52AM Wed, 30 May 2012 · @3936044

I believe it was on.  I was at a different computer last night, but I saw it mentioned in another post and checked.

 

It was the exact same computer.  Windows 7.


  hborre    ( ) ( posted at 10:53AM Wed, 30 May 2012 · edited on 10:56AM Wed, 30 May 2012 · @3936045

Untick that feature when you get a chance, it is not relevant if you have no intentions of developing content across Poser and DAZ platforms.  It causes more problems than it is worth. 

Where exactly is Poser installed in Win7, it's exact location?  And also where is M4 and Morphs located?


  FutureFantasyDesign    ( ) ( posted at 1:33PM Wed, 30 May 2012 · edited on 1:43PM Wed, 30 May 2012 · @3936110


I just recently struggled with Win 7 Pro and it's little gliches.

Here are two things that helped me.

Do you have in your Program Files/Common Files/Daz/dzInstall.ini ?
if not you will need to create that (*you can also do this if you are using a 32 bit OS by choosing Program Files (x86)/Common Files/Daz/dzInstall.ini) and creating it in that folder also. It is easy, make all of the folders, and the ini file is just a new rich text document made by right clicking on the empty space inside the Daz folder, then selecting the rich text document and naming it the ini file as spelled here.

Second, click on the poser icon, is this a 64 bit or a 32 bit system? If you have the X86 folder with your content then go and click on the Poser Icon, and select Properties, then select Compatability. There is a window drop down that will say different OS's you can choose from. Choose XP for 32 bit SP2 for that. If you are using 64 bit choose Win 7. I posted a SS for you. If you do not select one, often it gives weird errors that make no sense! I struggled to get W7 to work correctly for me. This may honestly help.

Hope so.

~A~

Is there water in your future or is it being shipped away to be resold to you?
Water, the ultimate weapon...

www.futurefantasydesign.com


  RHaseltine    ( ) ( posted at 9:46AM Thu, 31 May 2012  · @3936384

Where is Michael installed? Under WIndows 7 (and Vista) content should not be placed in the application folder.


  wellender    ( ) ( posted at 9:48AM Thu, 31 May 2012  · @3936387

I did the update on M4 again and I changed the compatability to Windows 7.  Everything is working now except for one morph package.  I went back and unchecked the binary thing and the one morph package injection still doesn't work.  All the others do though so I am not that worried about it.

 

Thanks for the help.


  FutureFantasyDesign    ( ) ( posted at 12:17PM Thu, 31 May 2012  · @3936430

:) Good luck on the other, I bet Richard can help there better then I.

~A~

Is there water in your future or is it being shipped away to be resold to you?
Water, the ultimate weapon...

www.futurefantasydesign.com


  Xfitz    ( ) ( posted at 7:31PM Thu, 31 May 2012  · @3936562

 I have two questions:

  1. Can anyone advise me regarding why I cannot install Poser 8 on to my PC? I get a message that say Application has failed due to a config error. The PC has a dual core processor and runs on XP Professional 2002. It has plenty of RAM. I run photoshop CS4 and D/S4 Pro on it without any problems. 

  2. I notice that SmithMicro is offering Poser Pro 2012 for $199 with a coupon. Anyone know where I can get a coupon? Otherwise it costs $499. 

Meanwhile, I am still wrestling with trying to recover my lost files. I must say tho, it has been a learning , albeit extremely frustrating and time consuming, experience.


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