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 Subject: Material Room, Nodes & Shaders - Tutorials and Discussions (Bookmarks - Updated)

Acadia opened this issue on Dec 06, 2007 · 217 posts

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  Acadia    ( ) ( posted at 10:00AM Thu, 11 March 2010  · @3614582

Quote - Now that Rendo has a wiki, we could move these links to an article there and then it is something that can be edited and kept up to date.

Yeppers! It's in my plan to do that.  Just been busy and then sick so I haven't had a chance. I will though.

I have way more bookmarks and bookmark threads than this one.

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



  kyhighlander59    ( ) ( posted at 5:52PM Tue, 23 March 2010  · @3620556

Quote - Updating

Getting Rid of Glowing Iris Circles

this is a dead link, is there any chance you know where it was? LOL


  bagginsbill    ( ) ( posted at 6:01PM Tue, 23 March 2010  · @3620559

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=2733625

I simply typed "Glowing circle around iris" in the Rendo search engine and its the first match.


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  kyhighlander59    ( ) ( posted at 6:02PM Tue, 23 March 2010  · @3620561

I actually found it right after I sent the note. sorry for the trouble. she had corrected it down a dozen or so replies.


  bagginsbill    ( ) ( posted at 6:11PM Tue, 23 March 2010  · @3620566

We need the Wiki page to replace this thread.

I think we should work backwards, since some of the earliest posts have been superceded, as you found out.

All we need to do is create the page. Is there one yet? If not, I'll create it.

Then every day, somebody should pick a link and add it.


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  kyhighlander59    ( ) ( posted at 6:14PM Tue, 23 March 2010  · @3620568

That is a good idea. BTW when is your book due out?


  bagginsbill    ( ) ( posted at 6:18PM Tue, 23 March 2010  · @3620570

I don't know when the book will be done. I estimate I have another thousand pages to write. Then I have to edit it and probably make it into two books, or maybe three. There is too much to talk about. I also have no idea if printing a book with 2000 pictures means nobody can afford it.

Anway - there is a wiki page for the Poser Material Room here:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/rrwiki/index.php/Poser_Material_Room

It was started with the intentioin of listing all the nodes, but I think that's going to be a mistake. Just covering the basics of what the nodes do and how to use them is easily over 50 pages.

Anyway, I'm going to make a sub-page from that for Poser Shader Threads, under Further Reading. Then we can just start moving links into it from here. We can sort it later.


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  bagginsbill    ( ) ( posted at 6:20PM Tue, 23 March 2010  · @3620571

Oh how tedious. Copy and paste doesn't work - only the words arrive, not the links. My God, it will take forever.


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  bagginsbill    ( ) ( posted at 6:23PM Tue, 23 March 2010  · @3620572

Crap - why is Wiki using yet another markup language, totally different from HTML. How tedious.

Now I see why nothing has been written for the most part.

OK here's my opinion, and please don't try to change it.

WIKI editor SUCKS.

It should accept pasting of HTML and do the right thing. Somebody is a mighty lazy programmer.


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  bagginsbill    ( ) ( posted at 6:24PM Tue, 23 March 2010  · @3620574

Great - so because I don't know WIKI markup, I click the link for help on editing. Nothing.

WIKI Sucks SQUARED!


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  bagginsbill    ( ) ( posted at 6:33PM Tue, 23 March 2010  · @3620577

I did the first five.


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  bagginsbill    ( ) ( posted at 6:43PM Tue, 23 March 2010  · @3620584

I'm using the links from page 5 of this thread. Some of the links are sectioned by where they are, which is not useful. But we should not re-order them until all have made it across. Otherwise it will be very hard to correlate them with the links on page 5.


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  kobaltkween    ( ) ( posted at 7:21PM Tue, 23 March 2010 · edited on 7:23PM Tue, 23 March 2010 · @3620598

well, it's not exactly lazy programming.  the wiki system they're using is the most popular wiki system out there by far, and it was made years and years ago when they decided the best way to deal with security and regular users (not people who knew how to hand code)  was to use pseudo-code. javascript wasn't as advanced as a language, i think, and i know the practice of clean DOM scripting wasn't in place.  unless i'm remembering wrong, there were no rich HTML editors for textareas yet.   iirc, the most i saw at the time in terms of javascript and forms was a little bit of input validation.  so pseudo code enabled people to add HTML properties without having to know HTML.  phpBB uses pseudo code, too, so much rich editing online was done that that way.

things have changed and advanced, and there are both free and commercial JS modules that can duplicate a full HTML editor.  but there's a huge community around that wiki system now.  it's the backend  for the entire Wiki Media line, for instance.  almost everyone who uses wikis at all are used to using this system.  so even if most of the Web is doing something different, most of the people on it who post to wikis are still used to this system and its pseudo code.

that said, my guess is it's possible to implement some JS rich HTML editing on the client-side and keep the backend mostly the same.  but it would be a lot of trouble to work against usability norms, which is generally a bad idea and has its major drawbacks in the best of situations.



  bagginsbill    ( ) ( posted at 7:45PM Tue, 23 March 2010  · @3620604

I found a tool to do the conversion here:

http://toolserver.org/~diberri/cgi-bin/html2wiki/index.cgi

My point was the WIKI editor should have a button to paste HTML and convert it. My opinion stands. If it's done already on that page it could be done in the WIKI editor.


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  bagginsbill    ( ) ( posted at 7:47PM Tue, 23 March 2010  · @3620605

Anyway I did the bulk of the conversion from the big post on page 5. It's here:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/rrwiki/index.php/Poser_Shader_Threads

Assuming the big post on page 5 was up to date, we can re-organize it. But I'll let it settle and get tested a bit first. Then after sorting it, we can add the individual posts that were added besides those.


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  kyhighlander59    ( ) ( posted at 8:11PM Tue, 23 March 2010  · @3620619

Acadia was looking for your discussion of skin shaders in another thread, is that in the wiki as well?


  bagginsbill    ( ) ( posted at 8:27PM Tue, 23 March 2010  · @3620637

No. I hate that thread. But it's better than the Daz3D "beautiful skin" thread.


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  Acadia    ( ) ( posted at 4:58PM Mon, 29 March 2010  · @3623190

Quote - Anyway I did the bulk of the conversion from the big post on page 5. It's here:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/rrwiki/index.php/Poser_Shader_Threads

Assuming the big post on page 5 was up to date, we can re-organize it. But I'll let it settle and get tested a bit first. Then after sorting it, we can add the individual posts that were added besides those.

You're a gem!

It took so long to put the original up, and then to update it with this one, only to have RDNA go and redo their whole site and break all of the links.  I just lost steam and really wasn't up to resorting and making yet another thread.
Thanks for putting it all on that Wiki site. 

Once you are done, I'll just add new links to that and not bother with this thread anymore.

I have a whole slew more links to add, just haven't felt up to it though.

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



  Acadia    ( ) ( posted at 12:57PM Mon, 17 May 2010  · @3645946

upsy

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



  Haarspalter    ( ) ( posted at 9:48AM Sun, 20 June 2010  · @3661206

Both first links are dead


  nruddock    ( ) ( posted at 2:53PM Sun, 20 June 2010  · @3661344

Quote - Both first links are dead

Work your way backwards through the thread as the links have been updated (due to site changes here and elsewhere) several times.
The wiki page should have the most up to date links.


  Acadia    ( ) ( posted at 10:52AM Fri, 16 July 2010  · @3673956

Leather and Suede

This thread includes a download for an .mt5 file as well as a matmatic script.

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



  Acadia    ( ) ( posted at 7:19PM Fri, 13 August 2010  · @3687604

Ok, I started to update the wiki page. I"ve managed to incorporate the 1st 2 pages of this thread with the updates.  I should have the rest done by the end of the weekend.

After that I'm going to work on the wiki page and try and sort it out better and update any dead links.
 

After that I'm going to create other wiki pages with other bookmarked threads that I have created for things like lighting, cloth room etc.

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



  Dracoraven    ( ) ( posted at 2:37PM Sat, 14 August 2010  · @3687918

Most excellent! Many thanks !

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  whipporwill    ( ) ( posted at 10:01PM Sun, 22 August 2010  · @3691748

awesome, ty acadia!!





  nruddock    ( ) ( posted at 3:10PM Sat, 16 October 2010 · edited on 3:13PM Sat, 16 October 2010 · @3715461

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/mod/rrwiki/index.php/Poser_Shader_Threads

Resurrecting from the archives.


  MistyLaraPrincess    ( ) ( posted at 10:30AM Thu, 18 November 2010  · @3729770

Super duper Stickie.  Thanks so much for creating it.

 

a suggested link for one of my favorite how-to's 

'Create Perspective UVs' on the group palette

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?message_id=3662790

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  Acadia    ( ) ( posted at 4:58PM Wed, 05 January 2011  · @3748986

Moving this up for the time being. I'm still working on fixing the links and moving everything over to Wiki.

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi



  LilyHawk    ( ) ( posted at 6:15PM Sun, 30 January 2011  · @3758295

Thanks for all your hard work in organizing all this :-)



  nruddock    ( ) ( posted at 8:42PM Fri, 18 March 2011  · @3777796

Time to revivify the stickiness of this thread.


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