It sounds, on the surface, like a good idea. I imagine the moderators and admins are flat out all the time. However, it's hard to offer an informed opinion without having a clearer notion of the role of the coordinator. What do you expect them to do? Will they be accessible to the membership? What responsibility and authority will they have? I'd be interested to know some of the goals that are planned for the whole site, in your terms: "to continue evolving Renderosity". Thanks for the chance to comment, Acerebel
Humm yeah whatever. I don't see what this new group is supposed to do that couldn't be covered by a mod, but then again I'm not sure what a coordinator is supposed to do AT ALL from that description. But whoever you are: Welcome :o) May the force be with you
Coordinators will help manage forums, galleries, and work with members. They are taking a part of the Mod's duties from them. This will allow Mods the time to handle some of the other areas that have been put on hold because of time issues. More on these areas later....
I wish them well, but I must tell you that this is beginning to sound a lot like a big old "bureaucracy" :) This is suppose to be a place for all to have some relaxation guys.....why all the "watching" and "caretaking"??? I assume the folks who do this, do it for free???
If someone wants to volunteer, they should contact one of the Mods and let us know. We'll then consider that person by looking at what they're interested in, their helpfulness and experience on the forums, and where help is needed. Helping out at Renderosity is very rewarding, but it is not for the faint of heart, as most apparently know from the comments. ;-) BTW: If someone volunteers and isn't picked - it isn't meant as an insult. We may end up with more people in one area than we need. It's quite possible that we'll come back later on and ask if they're still interested. Cheers!
"Coordinators will help manage forums, galleries, and work with members" Oh good, so the Mods are overstretched and: "This will allow Mods the time to handle some of the other areas that have been put on hold because of time issues. More on these areas later...." Why not explain now? What other things would mods need to do (other than moderate), but can't right now because of 'time issues'?
Personally, this sounds like another way to take the focus off the problems that are plaguing the site without actually stopping them. Sort of like patching up a hole in the side of a ship when the entire bottom of the ship's been ripped out. Still, I hope these people can make a difference, and they're far braver than I.
What I just have read above: 1)"...The moderators do a great job but they can't be online all the time and some forums get off track rather easily." My humble answer: 'Be clearer, please ! Thanks. 2)"...not clear on the role."(Oh, someone feels the same as I do about it just above !) 3)"What responsibility and authority will they have? I'd be interested to know some of the goals that are planned for the whole site, in your terms:"to continue evolving Renderosity". -My humble answer is still the same: All of us, artists, make this site exist: It is simply obvious therefore that we should have the first, if not the last word in this affair.All the rest is "litterature". 4)"...Humm yeah whatever......but then again I'm not sure what a coordinator is supposed to do AT ALL from that description." My humble answer:..Not only even sure, but I would say that I doubt of it more and more in the terms that are not precised to all of us here artists, I insist, persist & loudly affirm that ONLY us, and us all make this site LIVE. 5)"...great Idea I think it will help a lot!!.." No answer: It's maybe humour...! 6)_"This will allow Mods the time to handle some of the other areas that have been put on hold because of time issues. More on these areas later...." My answer: "Handle" what or else handle "who"? Artists who make this site exist are "put on hold because of time issues...???!!!" What they got as only precisions is: "More on these areas later...." Please read more in Part II............
...Part II of my personal point: 7)"...OK - invitation only......what if someone wants to volunteer?" My answer:I would love voluteer with Crescent & Frenchtoast...who's next ? 8)"...I must tell you that this is beginning to sound a lot like a big old "bureaucracy" My humble answer: I totally agree. ..This "thing" strangely looks far too much like "moderation" instead of "liberation" to me... although I might be wrong... we'll se. (One posting daily instead of three. Let me caugh....Brrrooooch-ch ! 9)_"...Why not explain now? What other things would mods need to do (other than moderate), but can't right now because of 'time issues'?" The results I can personally get from those interesting reactions is a quote: And here it is: "The limit between too much moderation and not enough repression is so much not definite in their own view, and such an obscure decision for some to take, that these some generally find a better shelter in the second choice." And this quote is from me. ..I have a better quote from Salvador Dali: "Each rose grows in a jail". _When I took a trip to USA, I saw that in this country of which I love the people, I was not banned or deported only because I was actually yelling at a cop treated him a moron, as long as question of free speech...We would love (and certainly have all reasons to hope that the Adms, the Mods. & their TOS to be "american" too on this essential point !Only that and all of that: HONESTY NOT A LONELY WORD ANYMORE !_Is it asking too much ? Thanks for your attention. Klaus.
Hi Everyone, Thanks for your interest in this new feature :) Waves hello to Lundqvist :) As Tammy mentioned above, the coordinators will be assisting the moderators think of them as mini-mods :) Although the moderators would love to be online 24/7, it is just impossible. Also, it will help to have additional support with the galleries and forums at times when a Forum Moderator is offline, or away from the community for either family emergencies, work, or on a vacation [believe it or not some of us really do have lives outside Renderosity - honest] As to the new roles for the existing Moderators; by having assistants this will free the moderators to work on their Forum backrooms and the new Community Forum features, yet still be there to assist members with questions. We are very excited about this new feature and look forward to the coordinators joining the team :) ladynimue
I disagree with you khrys. I don't believe the bottom of the "Renderosity Boat" is torn out. It's a logical decision. When schools get more students, they hire more teachers. When a business expands, they need more employees. And when a town grows, they need more police. And it's not going to be a "Big Brother" operation either, because obviously us artists here have a lot of freedom as it is. Have you looked at the gallery recently? ;) Peace
So... My guess is:
Admins set up the hardware and tweak n' peak the software on the servers. Tangible things like that. (They do an excellent job, but need to give members a better heads up about downtimes to help avoid rumors.)
Moderators are the ones who keep tabs on the forums and chats. They do what they can to assist new members of the community. Also they police the place in order to best keep things within the TOS, so unruly rabble rousers and spammers are under control.
Right now, I think the submitted items are reviewed by both Admins and Moderators. Which appears to be quite a task in itself when considering the volume of material.
Thus... Pondering what a coordinator is... I suppose it would be sort of like an "assistant moderator". Perhaps they'll have some of the policing ability of a mod, but with more focus on busywork type tasks like reviewing submitted models for freestuff and the marketplace. Therefore, the mods and admins could better focus on their main tasks. Am I far off on this?
No clue as to what the co ordinators are gona do but I guess they will be looking after the task of answering the many questions that must be addressed to the site moderators and mananger or maybe just keep an eye on stuff and make reports to the moderator, act as the eyes for the moderators, thats my guess though. Well, Most welcome if the aim is to improve the quality of the site and it's upkeep.
Klaus, you were talking alot about the "freedom" of artist but what I've noticed is that when you give a person alot of freedom, they act irresponsibly. I'm always amazed at that - people like to say "I'm grown so I can do what I want" but that is such a childish statement. And following that statement is usually a childish action. They'll try to push the envelope by saying their being stifled. Mixednutt is right, when you grow you must then accomodate that growth. Posting one picture a day is hardly a crackdown. It offers the chance of the new members, as well as the old, to have their pictures seen in one round instead of three. It makes perfect sense. In a perfect world, we would all be able to post as many as we want and what kind we want but I don't have to tell you what that would lead to. So roll with the changes, give it a chance to see how it works out.