This is going to take a bit of explaining so bear with me! First my system; imac 400mhz with 320megs of RAM running OS9.1 About 200 megs assigned to Poser. I recently tried using the ultramorph man and every time I selected the head Poser3 crashed. My guess was that there were too many morphs in the head (about 95 I think) so I removed some, got the number down to about 75 and all was well. Just the other day I was looking at the specs of Vicky2 and she has well over 100 morphs in her head making her pretty much unusable to me, at least without a lot of fiddling removing and adding morphs as the need arises. Then it occurred to me that maybe there could have been a "bad morph" in the ultramorphman that was causing problems. Is this possible? I've read threads where people describe using Poser on older less powerful systems than mine so I would have thought mine could handle the morphs. I thought it was big texture maps or multiple models that usually caused problems. Sorry this has gone on so much, I know no one will be able to answer with any certainty and I'll have to experiment, I just wanted peolples gut feelings I suppose. Thanks in advance Baz