I keep reading about all the new features that Vue 4 is going to have and I am frankly still stunned! This program is just totally under-valued! They are NUTS! for selling this software for only $199... I still use Vistapro 4 because it correctly tiles USGS DEMS to make Mega-terrains of exact geographic accuracy- like a GIGANTIC Grand Canyon scene. Well, Vue 4 is going to now do this TOO... I use Terragen because it has made the best 3D clouds and realistic atmospheres anywhere- yet it sounds like Vue 4 is very likely going to fulfill ALL my Terragen requirements... View 4 is going to have a camera Trackball like Bryce, my single favorite Bryce feature... Vue 4 is going to allow a "do it all" single pane view like Truespace, using Open GL. The one feature Truespace has always claimed as the BEST 3D interface... I'm not an animator, so with Vue 4's direct Poser model imports that satisfies all the hassles and bugs of dealing with Pro-Pack... I'm so psyched about VUE 4 that I'm making a major computer upgrade just to primarily run Vue 4. I think VUE 4 is just F**KING AWESOME, and once I get it, I may not even be around much as I will be so busy creating everything I've always wanted to do in ONE PROGRAM. So a final benefit- no more mad fox. He has left for another planet...