unrealblue opened this issue on Jan 02, 2024 · 15 posts
unrealblue posted Tue, 02 January 2024 at 5:37 AM
Well, the last thread I read quickly descended into insults (perceived and/or real). Can we try again?
No debate about the "A" or "I". It's a lost cause: the media has fixated on it. Kind of like how "Hacker" was lost many decades ago. :p
This isn't about the "make art" button. Or even philosophically "what really *is* art?" There are other places for such things.
And it isn't about legal stuff of ownership. The USCO has already ruled on it, although they've pretty much said it's an emerging area and they're just applying the strict letter of the law for now. There are other places for such things.
This is about the tool we all play with (that would be Poser) for making images we want. Essentially, is that not Poser? A tool we use in "making images we want"?
And this is about various "AI" things that can possibly enhance Poser for that purpose.
Now, what *I* want is a bit more than typing "hot chic who looks like a supermodel, with big boobs, wearing almost nothing, standing in front of a dark castle, shooting lightning from her fingers" and enjoying the resulting pin up a cool algorithm has generated.
I'm not saying that's bad. If that's your goal, congrats: there's an app for that. You don't need Poser or DS for that, any longer. Go forth and type!
This is about those who do something else, some other way.
Over in the Blender world, a few people have done some interesting AI plug-ins. 3 of them seem useful in the Poser world (ie: for people who compose 3d scenes and render). Note: blender plugins are in the blendermarket. Which is not rendo, so I'm not linking. Search :)
1. AI textures. A handy plugin that makes materials (complete with bump, displacement maps, and node setups). So things like "dark red old brick, seamless" makes a material you can use. Hugely useful, no? It produces normal node setup, that you can then tweak as you wish. If you ran that through a "mind of BB algorithm" for node generation, it could be cool.
[called dt2db bridge]
2. AI 3D objects. A handy plugin (very early stage) based on chatGPT and its ability to generate simple code. Something like "a 20cm diameter brightly glowing orb, light-blue light, high resolution" and it's added to your scene. Pretty cool. That also would be useful too, no?
[called blender copilot]
Neither of these two things does anything people don't already do a lot slower (or just as quick, depending on your library :)
3. Render using scene as a reference. Ken has started in that direction. This blender plugin takes it further. You can (say) use a bunch of cubes to position buildings in a city scape. Add some simple low poly figures to position people. Pick your camera angles. You can add details, and diffusion picks those up as more references. It's like a super-powered render.
[called AI render]
Poser is MADE for driving things like this!
Imagine using Poser to drive AI rendering and animation with precision. It's actually so close. And it has the *way* more approachable interface. This really seems like a good match.
I'm sure I'm not the only one thinking such things.